The UK Department of Health recently announced that it would loosen hygiene rules for Muslim and Sikh doctors and nurses. From now on, Muslim female staff will not need to wash their hands before procedures as it compromises their modesty. Instead, they will have the admittedly less sanitary option of wearing disposable plastic over-sleeves.
Acknowledging the danger of microbes and death, a Department of Health spokesman said, “The guidance is intended to . . . balance infection control measures with cultural beliefs.” But, believe it or not, from a culturist perspective, the death of some patients is not the main cause for concern that this policy elicits.
The most dangerous problem is that this policy encodes multiculturalism not culturism. Whereas culturism acknowledges that England has a majority culture to protect and promote, this multiculturalist policy implicitly says that England has no core culture. It says that the nation can be whatever pressure groups decide it is. It, therefore, officially ends the dominance of English culture in England.
If you think this is hyperbole, consider the decision’s potential impact on schools. If we are going to implement policies that recognize and give legal standing to balkanize our culture, we must think it through to such a broader societal impact. This legal precedent may require us to set up schools in which Islamic teachings are taught. If that seems extreme, keep in mind that multiculturalism has currently made it nearly a firing offense to criticize Islam in our schools.
When we encode multiculturalist school policy, we have a recursive loop of disaster. When we cannot criticize Islam, we cannot teach that much of Western history has been about fighting Islam. We must erase the concept that our defending Europe against Islamic invasion led the way to the Enlightenment and, ultimately, to our political freedoms. And when our school children are taught not to value our Western culture, they will not feel any sense of pride, have reasons to defend the civic virtues that make England strong, or possess a desire to protect their homeland.
Islam has been at war with the West nearly continuously since its inception. Wherever it takes over it imposes a ruthless theocracy that smothers the freedoms we hold dear. We cannot protect the West with policies that say Islam is equal to our civilization. Culture is not metaphysical. It exists in space and people. Everywhere Islam has legal standing and is practiced is a space where English culture does not exist and is not practiced. It means the territory of defending Western values has shrunk and that believing in Islamic values has grown. The hospitals are now becoming Islamic.
England has a culture. To survive, England must set up culturist policy that affirms that this is English land with Western practices. We must tell people that our schools will teach the glories of the European defense against Islam and the contribution philosophers such as John Locke made to creating the Western concept of rights. Our streets must not become areas where women must conform to Muslim customs. Just as Saudi Arabia has an Islamic culture and protects it, England has a culture and a right to protect it. To survive, England must enact culturist, not multiculturalist policies.
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why nobody commented that this guideline is also for the sikh?????????
well if ever i am ill, i refuse to be treated by them, how come when we visit hositals we have to hand santiser on entering and leaving
if we all refuse treatment then they will not be earning their living and can be sacked giving their jobs our dedicated nurse who are having trouble getting jobs, but then allah will probably find a way round it!!!!!
@Islamwilldominate: Why should we fear and distrust Muslims? Your name says it all.
Anyone who must undergo surgery in the UK should insist that no Muslim women be allowed to participate in the procedure unless they wash their hands according to prescribed medical practice.
Some of the comments above are absolutely disgusting and those who made them should be ashamed of themselves!
Talking of bombing Muslims or throwing them out of the UK. Well, I’m Muslim. I reverted on 30/04/2011. Subhan’Allah it’s the best thing I EVER done! I wear hijab too.
I can’t believe how sucked in you lot are! This story is so obviously created to have this exact effect, it’s nothing more than media spinning! And you lot who profess to be intelligent, have been sucked in – hook, line and sinker!
Every day, 5 times a day, Muslims are supposed to perform Salaat, or pray (I say supposed to, because some don’t for whatever reason, from health to work). Before you can perform Salaat (pray), you MUST perform wudu (Ablution) with water (in other words you must wash yourself), otherwise your Salaat won’t be accepted by Allah (Sallalaahu alayhi wa sallam). If you cannot find water for wudu or you are too ill to use water on your body, you MUST perform tayammum, which is Ablution with clean sand, earth or dust.
Qur’an 4:43
O you who have believed, do not approach prayer while you are intoxicated until you know what you are saying (the use of intoxicants was later prohibited completely) or in a state of janabah (literally “distance”. The state of one under obligation to perform ghusl – a complete bath – due to having had sexual intercourse or ejaculation), except those passing through [a place of prayer], until you have washed [your whole body]. And if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women [i.e., had sexual intercourse] and find no water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and your hands [with it]. Indeed, Allah is ever Pardoning and Forgiving.
Qur’an 5:6
O you who have believed, when you rise to [perform] prayer, wash your faces and your forearms to the elbows and wipe over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you are in a state of janabah (see explanation above), then purify yourselves. But if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women (i.e., had sexual intercourse) and do not find water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and hands with it. Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you, but He intends to purify you and complete His favour upon you that you may be grateful.
Taking these two surahs into account, do you all really think that this is true?! In order to complete wudu properly/correctly for your Salaat to be accepted by Allah, you MUST wash your hands, forearms, feet, face and ears 3 times and run wet fingers through the hair/over the head twice – once backwards/from forehead to nape and once forwards/from nape to forehead. So if we Muslims are doing this correctly, we will wash our hands, forearms, feet, face and ears 15 times a day, and our heads 10 times a day – and this is for the Muslims who DON’T work in healthcare professions!
Also, if this “story” is true, why is Islam known as “the religion of cleanliness”?!
I’m so sick of hearing crap like this about Islam! It’s annoying and it’s so disrespectful! It’s no wonder that a lot of Muslims don’t want to integrate with non-believers, if this is how they get verbally jumped on! Think about it – would you want to be friends with someone if they kept calling you things like “dirty pig”, “terrorist”, etc?! No, I don’t think you would! Muslims are people too, just like everyone else on this planet. We all have a right to be here, regardless of what governments or whoever says otherwise. God put us here. And none of us have the right to question Him, to do so would be the ultimate insult to His knowledge and power.
Quran 112:1-4
Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets, nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.
It makes me angry and extremely sad when I see and hear just how my fellow English people have become so bitter, twisted, racist and religionist! I’m White and English/British. I came from a long line of White people. Yet about 2-3 weeks ago, I received a racist remark during a walk into town. An approximately middle-aged woman was walking towards me with a group of teenagers. I was wearing my hijab and minding my own business. I didn’t provoke her in ANY way at all. I didn’t even look at her when she got close to me – obviously as she was walking towards me from directly in front of me, I couldn’t help but see her, but as she got closer, I refrained from looking/staring at her. Out of nowhere, she made the remark “Aren’t you the wrong colour to be wearing that?!”. She was White and English, just like me. Unfortunately, this is not an isolated incident, things like this happen on an almost DAILY occurrence. I believe it’s down to site like this, spreading hate speech far and wide, making sure we all get a share. What you lot seem to forget, is that we Muslims have feelings too – some of which are more sensitive than others. Comments like those above and the direct comments I’ve received whilst out in my community, hurt my feelings terribly and there’s absolutely no need for it at all. I’m not interested in becoming a terrorist or extremist. All I want to do is be able to wear my hijab and practice my religion in peace, quiet and safety, without fear of reprisals from people who don’t like Islam. I don’t think I’m asking for much really. Besides, my mum always taught me that if you can say something nice to/about someone, then don’t say anything at all!
You should wear black to match the colour of your heart. You Muslims believe all non-Muslims are dirty and then you complain about discrimination. Your “religion of cleanliness” where your prophet Muhammad used to lick his hands clean like a dog wants to teach us how to behave. Go to a Muslim country if Islam is so great. Why are you in the land of “dirty infidels”?
If i end up in hospital there is no way one of those vile, dirty freaks will come anywhere near me. And i don’t give a toss if i get called racist, that i can live with. My life and health is way more important. And yes, i wouldn’t hesitate to sue!!
I am sick to death of all this pandering to people of different faiths. It’s about time this useless Government put the native English first! :-x
So if my religion say that i have to put my handy in pig blood before i help somebody-is this also allowed in UK?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb4m__LT4Yg
Now what does that picture remind me of? Oh Yeah! that’s right, it reminds me of this. http://www.shadowdalecreations.com/snowtrooper_1.jpg
:-x What the fuck is all this about! scum should not be aloud to treat people if they are not clean! if i ever saw a doctor or nurse wearing that stupid costume and with dirty hands i would spit at them! scum EDL! NFSE!
i would like kick all the muslims from EU they are bringing they’re culture from middle east and behaving like savages ,when the europe will be awaken and get they’re true indetnity..
muslim dogs
LISTEN U FOOLS….BEFORE U TALK ABOUT ISLAM..LEARN IT..
jst because some muslims behave badly..u assume that islam does it but islam is not the problem trust me…
one of u non muslims may should learn islam and ull see what you’ve been missing….RESPECT OUR RELIGION JST LIKE WE RESPECT YOURS
we do .. we respect your religion in the same way you respect all other religions – destroying the buddas, blowing up churches, killing christians and hindus and buddists and atheists and other muslims.
Come to think of it .. we respect your religion a great deal more than you respect everyone elses – but that does NOT mean we have to like it or even think it is true.
As an atheist – I know that al-lah does not and never has existed.
So, I am willing to respect people, but why respect an ideology based on falsehood?
@gsw I wish u would have read my previous comments…MUSLIMS DO NOT BOMB ANYTHING!!!!! THOSE ARE THE TALIBANS AND AL QAEDA TERRORISTS GROUPS…I AM SICK OF PPL TALKING BAD ABOUT ISLAM…THESE GROUPS HAVE KILLED MORE MUSLIMS THAN THOSE 3000 PPL KILLED 9/11…THEY BOMB THEM IN THEIR OWN MOSQUES, TAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND MANY OTHER ATROCITIES NOT WORTH MENTIONING TO IGNORANT PPL…MUSLIMS HAVE SUFFERED THE MOST WITH THESE TERRORISTS GROUPS THAN ANY OTHER PPL IN THE WORLD…
Muslims kill Muslims for not being Muslim enough. That’s why the West is safer than Muslim countries, even for Muslims.
What seems to be problem when teenagers dress like a prostitute without any critics whereas muslim women has no right to wair what they be commanded by their God (just as nuns).
It’s human right to decide what they want to wair,isn’t it?
Are we living in the same world ?
More Lies against Islam…NOWHERE IN ISLAM DOES IT SAY WOMEN CANNOT WASH THEIR HANDS…IT DOESNT EVEN COMMAND WOMEN TO COVER THEIR HANDS…CLEARLY this is some bullshit used as anti-Islamic propaganda. The UK is full of it right now. Recent converts to Islam claiming to know about the religion and totally misrepresenting Islam. Go to Saudi Arabia, or any Muslim country and ask the nurses if they wash their hands. My mom is a Muslim nurse and she washes her hands more than the dirty christians do at the university where she works.
Dirty Christians hey? Hmmm you sound like another ‘tolerant’ muslim yourself.
The problem in England is that it is now known through an aide of Blair, that Blair purposefully swamped England with foreigners to “rub the Right’s nose in diversity.”
That disgraceful Labour “government” used the immigrants and the indigenous people of the UK for its own spiteful purpose.
So many immigrants have been allowed into this small island that community cohesian in many areas is breaking down. The mainly muslim immigrants do not want to integrate. They do not seem to respect the traditions or culture of the Nation where they are now guests and even seem to despise us, especially our women.
The English are not allowed to protest. If they do, of course they are labelled bigots and racists. It does not matter that our communities are being harmed by this sudden and huge influx or people with different ways and language, we must not complain. We also must not offend them. It does not matter that WE are offended many many times. We, the English, don’t matter in this great European Superstate. We are relegated to just a region of Europe now and we must do what our masters in Brussel decree.
B****er That!!!
:roll: Just one more comment, I think the reason this madness of muslims in the Uk is prevalent, they want to force the issue with English persons going to the streets and demonstrating against the islamification of the UK
:evil: I am sick and tired of bloody muslims and what THEY want to do in OUR country and the governments we have let them get away with it or support what they want, this is ENGLAND not an asian country, if they want to practice their religion in full they can go to an Islamist country, see how far that gets them, especially the women. God forbid if I went into hospital to be faced by one of these monsters, I will be turfed out of my bed and sent home after my second sentence was out.
This is hysterical… why doesn’t the health department look at countries where this is already relevant… in South African all Muslim Doctors and Nurses wash their hands… there has been no complaints about it there only UK can bow so low to Political Correctness… there is absolutely no reason for them to push this on UK when they do not use the same argument in other multi-cultural countries… Wake up UK before it is too late and all the patients are dead from infections spread by poor hygiene… if they don’t want to wash their hands… don’t employ them… that is part of the hypocratic oath…to be more concerned with the patients well being… send them packing… Wash your hands or find alternate employment!
allways on your side ….i miss you
when will the western world wake up and ban this idioligy(islam)in all westernm countries.
islam is an idioligy just the same as fashism communision etc .
muslim people want to live under shari’a law and not abide by the laws of the country they areliveing in
this law condones .pedophilea and recently inother countries were this law applies there have been reports of young girls dieing from internal ruptures.
nice law
next a woman are murded for adultry reciently in iran a 14 year old girl was jailed and kept untill see is 18 yrs old so she can be murded humanily by stoneing great law.this sheir’a law
the morality police will jail you and your girlfriend for the very bad crime of kissing in public.
ban this idioligy A.S.A.P. in western countries :oops:
@Chaya. I am not sure if you are aware but the Qu’ran in the same way as the christian bible includes a version of the Torah so Muslims have the same background as you do when it comes to that type of thing. All three religions are cousins with Islam being the most recent. The differences are mainly cultural and to what degree people believe “word for word” the text. Is it considered christian to “sell you daughter into slavery?” as in exodus ? In the culture of the middle east the evil minority could have used any of the books we deem “holy” to use for their own immoral purposes. Although it has to be said the works of mohammed are some of the most disturbing with his pedophile history and warring and thieving nature.
to the aussie misinformed. Nobody is saying that religious cults with horrific rules are good. That is why people criticize Islam to start with. And for your information your very own Mohammed married a 6 year old (Aisha) and consummated the marriage when she was 9 years old according to your holy scriptures. Who is the sick one now? Christianity is nearly as fucked up as Islam but at least you are allowed to criticize it without threat of death. But on the main point, although I don’t have a problem kicking Islam in the nuts when it deserves it this a is a bit of spin from the BNP. That is a patient dress in the medical burka not a nurse or doctor. There are no uniforms like that in the NHS. This whole article was based on a small disagreement with a small section of the medical field in Islam who complained about baring their arms and were swiftly told to stfu or get out. Case closed. The rest is just made up to get people like yourselves riled up.
And i know for a fact ur ass is blacker hence dirtier than any english persons on this earth!!! as i said Hypocrisy at the highest level!!
Note its states that it is u the muslims that are not washin and findin any means possible to not wash and go against the English way of washin!!! U dumb fuckHypocrisy at the highest level!!! But then i suppose we should we should understand that u cant read or figure out wot is being said on this page, coming from such a backward and some wot useless culture within this world!!!You want live in these dirty and nasty ways go back to ur dirty and nasty country and do it, Dont come here apressing it on us!!!
English do not wash their ass. Can we believe those asses are clean without washing? Basically English people are not suitable for doctor, nurse or any profession which requires hygiene because of not washing habit. Not washing ass mean their dresses are not clean, if dresses are not clean denote the environment is full of germs. :cry:
Are you saying Muhammad was filthy because he used to wipe his arse with 3 rocks? Are you Muslims ashamed to follow this part of your sunnah?
@Mar
hate to burst your bubble but your country is starting the same immigration policy as England did and are only about a decade behind.
Don’t belive me?
Check out your birth rate, your taxes collected verses recived by age, then look at your imagration statistics, and lastly your current youth demographics.
On the plus side we will welcome you here in the USA our blue states are neg birth growth. And our red are possitive and we total just over replacement rate. So come on down when your over run we will have some nice beach front available for your grand kids.
That is unless Berry gets his way and we follow soon after you.
Lol you can’t stop it till you stop your socialised government or start reproducing!!!!
Your government needs young people to pay for old people that is how a pension state operates. So option 1 make your own people. Or option 2 import the other youths of the middle east and know your culture is dead.
Or stop your stupid socialist policies AND start reproducing. Best of both worlds.
You can be a cultural appoligist with far less than replacement breeding and survive as a culture.
Lol and if your culture dies do you think yhe imams will record it accuratly in their histories??? Haha. Face it your culture was dead as soon as liberal policies took over the once manly brittish empire.
Wow is this every fucked up. I sadly feel that England will be the first European country to fall under Islam.
LOL To the asshat from Australia who is clearly a typical angry violent Muslim with masturbation fantasies. In Canada we don’t put religion on our passports as it is irrelevant.
Personally I am an atheist and consider a belief in a god to be on the same plane as the Easter Bunny. But out of all faiths Islam is the worst be leaps and bounnds. :-D
you fukers are dissing islam … look at christianity in america. god damn priests have their own churches and their own colonies where they have sex with kids and marry girls as young as 8 … that’s sickening !
plus i bet all these hate comments are by losers who sit on the computer, finding something to do, trying to express themselves without getting punched in the face. great job faggots … acting really tough behind the keyboard, jerking off off to milfs – too bad you guys can’t really open your mouths in real life. plus you fukers dont even like your religion. you dont even follow christianity like the way it should be, just have the title “christian” on your passport so you can pass thru security without random bomb checks.
… and some of us atheists are female.
Please present rational arguments, not just insults, as to why your religion (you are muslim I assume) is so much better than no religion.
Why following the lifestyle of a 7th. century camel driver is better than emulating a 21th. century humanitarian/genius – for example Steven Hawkin.
Why following a 7th. century misogynist is better than emulating a 20th. century suffragette – like Emily Pankhurst?
Bit please, rational answers, showing your superior male intelligence, not just spewing insults.
So what are these burkha wearing cover everything muslims doing outside the house without their brothers/fathers as escorts watching them do their job (thats not baby making/cooking/cleaning). If they can bend that far, lets bend to hygiene yes?
I agree with your points fundamentally about the Islamic invasion of Europe and the UK in particular and the pandering to their backwards cultural beliefs by the UK government. Unfortunately that point was lost about half way down the page after the suggestion 6 million muslims should have been massacred and then following that dozens of just plain nasty comments about dropping bombs on them etc. This is not how we should be acting nor how we are going to tackle the problem. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I understand your anger but lets deal with the problem directly and not resort to name calling and threats in the same way we should not have to accept threats when a person criticizes Islam.
I always wonder whether the people of England are a bunch of “D!CK heads” Why in the whole world do you approve of all this muslim crap. Put them out and say enough is enough. Follow France’s way.
Thats wot we are doin !!! watch this space it is happenin now!!!and no we are not aload of dick heads!!lest we forget who made the ulimate sacrifices in the west in ww2!! i have respect!!
I am a muslim. This is not what I believe. I believe that saving lives is more important than to jeopardize Islam image to the world. Islam should be the bless for all. Reading all of these comments is making me deeply sad and torn. There are so many wrong movements using Islam as the cover. If you want to know how I practice Islam, you will understand.
I CONDEMN THIS PRACTICE! Muslim anywhere should speak up!
Islam is my religion and I welcome anyone to be my friend. If anyone hates me because of this comment, then ask your humanity. One muslim or more muslim doing bad thing doesn’t make all muslim bad.
I’m sending you all peace and love.
@Bayu – where are you from, Bayu? What country? Why don’t more Muslims like yourself speak out more???? In Judaism one is mandated to eat on Yom Kippur – the holiest day of the year when we fast – in order to save a life. The Shabbat also has to be broken if it means saving a life. It is called Pikuach Nefesh. Where is this kind of thing mentioned in the Koran??
I will also speak out…I Islam We have the Holy month of Ramadan in which we fast for one month…The Sabbath was originally made for Jews…But many christians also follow the same.
As for text in the Quran, there are many verses on the Sabbath. The Quran is full of verses on christianty and judaism. And it speaks more on the story of Jesus (pbuh) than Muhammad (pbuh).
In Islam it is taught if u save one life it is as if u saved the world..and If u kill one person it is as if u killed humanity.
Islam does not support the Taliban…The Taliban are even terrorist to Islamic ppl. I wish ppl woulnt compare Islam=terrorism It would be like to compare Catholics to Penecostals..its the same Base but interpreted in their own way.
Why do people believe this utter bullshit. Muslims do NOT fast during Ramadan. Fasting is not eating food AT ALL. This so-called bullshit fasting by the Muslims is abstaining from food during the hours of daylight and then gorging like pigs, cavorting like animals for most of the night and then fucking themselves stupid until daylight again.
Then in the morning the ‘poor starving’ morons rock up late to work and complain they are too weak to do anything. Not that Muslims actually DO any work, they import Filipinos and poor Pakis to do all the work and they treat them worse than animals.
Try REALLY fasting you asshole. Just WATER and NO food of any kind during day AND night. THAT is fasting, not your bullshit. Oh and BTW – fuck off back to Muslimland to do it. WE DON’T WANT YOU!
i plsd to hear u say this and wish u and would speak out against these evil ones and change wot they are doin to my country my flag my family my friends and my god bless them armed forces!!!
Salaam sister…These comments r sickening and also sadden me to read all of these ignorant comments against Islam. I was born and raised in New Jersey and as Roman Catholic Cristian and am now a Convert. Couldnt have been happier.
I am also a nursing student and am against wearing layers of clothes. I have already started my clinical practice here in Puerto Rico where my parents r from.
I stongly disagree in not washing hands in hospitales and it is discusting…ppl I am OBSESSED in washing my hands. During my clinical practice i dont wear my hijaab but as soon as I get in my car i will probably wear it. And our uniforms r regular scubs and shirt up 2 the elbows. For my God is most Merciful and Forgiving..I also live in a place where there is freedom…Thanks be to God…Peace to all..
On reading your comment on being a muslim i know not, what your race or back ground is
I was bought up a christian and my heart tells me that god is real,
How ever my head keeps telling me
That MAN MADE GOD
I am 69 yrs old so it wont be long and i will know the answer one way or the other.
When any one says that they dont like muslims they are considered raciest.this is rubbish ,people of many races embrace islam.
you see it is the same if you are in italy and you make a comment you are a facist or as it used to be here in australia if you said any thing contraversally you were a communist and like wise in the U.S. .Rember mcarthey?
NOW
The prophit muhammad (acording to your holy book )the koran. took(Aisha)a seven year old girl as his wife.
which under shari’a law is quite acceptiable.
she than entered his house whole at nine.
In western society this is not acceptable.any person doing this would be considered to be a paedophile and would be jailed.
all so alowed under shari’a law is bigomey/the murder of women by stoneing. who are acussed by their husbanes or anyone alse who have committed the sin of adultry.
NO I do dot hate people who are muslims reguardless of their race .
I just think that this idioligy of islam should be baned because it is mearley a tool for some men to inflict their will and values on others
AND the sooner the western nations change the law which gives us religious freedom to
THE RIGHT OF FREEDOM FROM RELIGION THE SOONER THIS WORLD WILL COME TO LIVE IN PEACE
And one more thing as we all know radical islam has declaired war on the west.
and were do you think their recruits come from?
Well we all know they come from islamic communites.
If you want tomatoes you must have a tomato bush no bush no tomatoes like wise.
no islamic communities no recruits and in passing Yes i know. not all muslims are terrorist
But i think that most terorists are muslim .
NO RELIGION OF ANY KIND == NO WARS
@trevor campbell
I totally agree with you on most laws on ppl stoneing women and men…those laws are mostly seen in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq..etc..They are made by leaders who dont have a heart and make up these adsurd laws…Do you how sad it is to me when i hear that a mother has to let her 4yr daughter and 6yr old son stay with her exhusband after a divorce?? She can only keep them if she doesnt get married…Everytime i think about it I wanna cry…
The laws made up by these leaders has nothing to do with Islam..due to the fact that if it is not written in the Holy Quran or Hadith and Sunnahs
As for the stoning,,the JEWS started stoning ppl and ppl who later converted to Islam during Profet Muhammad time started to imitate the same punishment on commited sins.
As for having more than one wife..it is only accepted if you have financial means to do so and if you can treat each one equally..If not the wife can ask for a divorce…Aisha was married at that age but the marriage was not consumed til she was 19yrs old. In Islam you are an Adult at 15yrs. Which is nothing new because many ppl make sweet 15 and 16 for their daughters…Which is not just a fancy party if not a coming out to society party meaning she can marry if she wishes and finds a suitable husband.
Islam not not = terrorist or Taliban
Al Qaeda and Taliban are not considered Muslim under the Islamic Faith…That is why the Taliban have one name and Muslims another..Did you know that these terrorists bomb mosques in the middle-east?? They are also terrorists to Muslims as well.
Would Christians terrorize Christians??? I dont think so either….
@Jen21
I am sure you mean well, but you have been misinformed. I agree that the old testament proscribes stoning as a punishment for many crimes. Much of what is in the Quoran is taken from the Torah and in a theocracy, religious books are taken to be infallible. Secular, i.e. non-theocratic, governments have less barbaric laws.
The laws of “Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq..etc..” are all based on the teachings of Mohammed – or his example. He stated that women are “deficient” and therefore men have “custody over them”.
The idea that a women’s body belongs to a male guardian, is not a new one, only the idea that slavery is wrong, is new.
To be a slave, in name or deed, is abhorrent to independent women. That a man may tell us when and with whom we may have sex is ridiculous. None-the-less, all these ideas are based on religious books and were fought against for centuries before we were able to kick them out of government and back into the houses of worship where they belong.
If you make excuses for a theocracy (the jews did it first!) you just sound immature.
Translations from the Arabic state that Aisha was 9 – not 19 – when the marriage was consummated, and this is what matters. Since no one now alive was there, the laws are based on what a book says, and the book says 9! Your denial does not help the thousands of little girls being raped daily by their owner/husbands.
Far better to say:
“what if that is what the book says Mohammed did – we are wiser now, we have a greater understanding of child psychology – we know that 9 y.o. girls cannot choose to marry – that rape is not made respectable by a shaman declaring it a marriage – we know that people are not camels and should not be slaves – that the IQ bell curve shows women to be of equal intelligence to men.
Excuses cannot change the truth.
And the truth shall make you free!
The Jews abandoned stoning centuries ago. While the West went through the Enlightenment, the Muslims remain glued in the dark ages.
BTW, is it true Muslims can marry their first cousins? That would explain a lot about their primitive cultures.
Yes Muslims can marry their first cousins. They even marry their sisters even if it is not permitted. They claim to save the family bloods lines.
Your prophet said not to say peace to the disbelievers. You’re breaking the Sharia. Aisha’s marriage was consummated when she was 9. Clearly you haven’t read your hadiths like you Islamic leaders have. Don’t let them fool you.
It is nice to hear a Muslim speak out for common sense and reason in such an emphatic way.
Well done!!
Bays says: “Islam is my religion and I welcome anyone to be my friend.”
Well, then you are heretic then. Here is what Alah says:
Qur’an (5:51) – “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”
Qur’an (5:80) – “You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide.”
Qur’an (3:28) – “Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah”
Qur’an (3:118) – “O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand.”
This verse not only warns Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends, but it establishes the deep-seated paranoia that the rest of the world is out to get them.
Qur’an (9:23) – “O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers” Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not accept Islam. (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the 9th Sura, which also advocates “slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find them”).
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If you publicly condamn this practice, chances are that your fellow muslim will just count you the same as “infidels”, and kill you.
Either you are with Bin Laden, or you are against him. If you really beleive in peace, then leave islam. There is no peace in Islam, just pieces.
Your prophet said not to say peace to the disbelievers. You’re breaking the Sharia.
Simple answer. Vote with your feet and your money. Refuse to be treated by any doctor or nurse that follows this insane practice.
When they have no patients and no income see how fast they lose their modesty.
I’m all for people following their culture but when it comes to health and safety you have to follow the rules period.
This goes for Christian pharmacists refusal to dispense contraceptives, Catholic doctors refusal to perform abortions to save the life of the mother, etc.
Why even enter these fields if you know they are going to conflict with your religion?
Problem is, if you refuse to be treated by a muslim you will be attacked as a racist.
Your fear of contamination is of no matter to those politically correct dictators who decide these things.
Better you die from some ghastly MRSA infection than a Muslim be offended.
I agree though, why do these people go into fields where they cannot obey the rules and where rules have to be changed to accomodate their foreign practices.
How can common sense not prevail here? Enjoy your disease epidemics.
I would encourage my English friends (the non-Muslims) to organize a ‘Boston tea party’ and threaten to overthrow your government, unless it proceeds to round up all Muslims in your country and ship them back home (to their country of origin) and those who ‘converted’ to Islam ship them to Saudi Arabia – then close your borders and allow not one Muslim in! Before it’s too late.
Their hands are filthy, washed or not. Filthy from the blood of their own people who dare to disagree with them. They may win a few battles, but never the war.
I cannot believe this. After the huge numbers of people killed and maimed by hospital acquired infections, this is negligence in the extreme.
Didn’t I hear somewhere that muslims clean their bottoms with their hands, after defecating?
Can you imagine that being the case and then the nurse treating a badly burned or injured patient. The risk of contamination is horrendous.
This is sick send the poncing nasty trash back to whence they originally came from, Racism works one way so off you go and make sure theres a hole in your boat so you all drown, PONCING LYING THEIVING SCUM
Peace loving?! A religion that condones Holy WAR?! Yep, sounds really peaceful to me! Why does washing their hands compromise their modesty anyway? I was under the impression that, when they go to the Mosque, before prayer, they have to wash up to their elbows (part of Wudu?) so what is the difference?! Yet another case of the Human Rights law getting out of control! What about the health and rights of the patients to get cared for in a clean environment by clean doctors/nurses?! Outrageous!
Send them all to mecca and drop a bomb on the dirty, smelly f***ers!!!
i posted a picture on the book of face with mecca and a nuke in the middle oh and the hate mail i recieved hahahah
Just shows that our government are trying to kill us off in favour for these evil pigs. I will never let a muslim touch me, i don’t want to catch their sadistic germs. GO TO HELL WHERE YOU BELONG ISLAM!!!!
Its disgusting! If i was in hospital theres no way 1 of em would get near me!
And has anyone noticed the difference between Mohammed and Charls Manson? thats cos there aint no difference!!
Jihad on them all!!! take all their oil and give the whole middle east to Israel
What a shame Hitler hated the poor jews and not Muslims…. 6 million less of them and the would would be a better place.
MAN you just totally made my day HAHAHAHAHA
damn right good one!!
Shame on you…what kind of scare tactics will you sink to next. You don’t think Muslims have enough to worry about with everyone thinking these peace-loving people want to kill us all? Multiculturalism promotes humanistic ideals and Christian ethics. What kind of terrorists are you anyway?
Peace-loving?!!! Really?!! It’s stupid people like you that is letting this cult take over. You really need to do some researh and open your eyes.
To claim they are not a danger and have nothing but love and respect for us all is just plain dumb.
Look at the idiot muslims comment above and then tell me they are peace-loving. :roll: :evil:
You’re a blind stuck on stupid fool. :-x
Not all muslim women wear this much clothing. No sense painting with such a broad brush, but bureaucracies being what they are, overkill is the order of the day. At issue is bad policy trumping good science. Too bad for their patients.
I’m muslim but this is BS.
No, this is Islam – plain and simple.
Absolutely horrifying!
It is a well documented fact that the NUMBER 1 way to prevent crossinfection in hospitals is HANDWASHING!!!!
Are English patients going to be able to sue their Muslim nurses or the hospitals if they aquire a hospital aquired infection (such as the deadly MRSA)?
I certainly hope this policy is NOT endorsed in Australia.
No we won’t be able to sue them for this, that would be ‘racist’. Never mind that their selfish ways are pure racism aimed at non Muslims. :(
Muslims are a law unto their own. If it doesn’t suit them & their way of life it soon does due to the pressure they put onto western governments. MRSA is a big problem in the UK hospitals, but it makes you wonder how it became a problem in the 1st place. Surely ethically these muslims must know that cleanliness is next to godliness lmao. Aus will follow, watch this space!
:cry: DISGUSTING. There is enough problems with Mercer and Staff infections, now to protect their modest hands, we might have to die? Open your OWN hospitals before infringing disgusting things like this on other humans! Do what you want, but in your own place. :-x :(
I agree that islam is taking over europe and they are trying to take over the u.s as well. The only amusing thing would be to see the royal family in burkas other than that I say kick their asses back to saudi arabia where they get their hands cut off and we don’t have to worry about them washing their hands anymore no matter where they are.
Hey Einstein! It’s MRSA, not Mercer.
Moron.
How did an article about Muslim doctor’s and nurses not having to wash their forearms turn out to really be an article about not having to teach Islamic “culture” (actually not culture, but Islamic teaching) in the public schools?
HAHAHA The Sun is rising the West! Deal with it!
Screw you —the reason you cover your face is so you can behave like a coward and hide. Your cover up is not modesty IT IS COVERT.
You think that this is a victory for you but the truth is when there will be tons of infection and deaths in your population you won’t be so popular and eventually the West will kick your ass back into the desert.
Any culture that places modesty before hygienic practice SHOULD NOT BE IN HEALTHCARE!
Muslims believe that the true way to heaven is to kill all infidels (non-muslims).
Let’s think about this…..if a muslim is operating on a non muslim (infidel to them), do you really think they care if you die? Interesting.
Keep healthcare hygienic–wash you hands!!!
Keep England English!
And keep America a God-loving county. America was built on “One nation under God,” not one nation under Muhammud.
Spoken like a true ignorant American. I’m not American, which only makes it more amusing that I apparantly know more about the founding of your country than you do, but then again with the propaganda machine that your media is and the state of education in the US it really is no wonder.
At any rate, “One nation under God” was not introduced to any document until much, much later, inserted by vapid religious fanatics who have since invaded and corrupted most of the American govt, giving rise to such ignorant fools as George Bush.
All that said, I agree with the first part of your statement. The only thing worse than Christianity is Islam.
:)) You just proved your true australian ignorance. =)) Our founding fathers were God fearing Christians. Yes this country was founded “Under GOD”. They gave us the right to worship God in the way we want to not the way the government tells us to. So you know less about my country then I do. You all still bow down to a queen from another country as your head of state. After all the only reason why the brits took over Australia is to turn it into a penal colony to dump unwanted people and criminals into prison camps in Australia so your motherland england and her citizens did not have to put up with them and see them. I would be horrified to know that my country was only founded for this reason and to know my ancestors were unwanted and criminals that my ancestors homeland threw them away for the garbage they were. :> Sincerely a PROUD American citizen who PROUDLY voted for President George Bush and YES I AM A PROUD GOD FEARING CHRISTIAN!!
The one nation under god came about in the 1950s when the US was paranoid about the godless communism invasion.
One nation under god did not exist until the 1950s when we became paranoid about godless communism. It was NOT built on one nation under god! Our founding fathers wanted religious freedom (or the freedom to not believe in any god or gods) for everyone! Get your faith facts straight. Do not speak for our nation unless you are willing to give everyone the right to NOT believe in your particular brand of fiction.
:-P Screw you —the reason you cover your face is so you can behave like a coward and hide. Your cover up is not modesty IT IS COVERT.
You think that this is a victory for you but the truth is when there will be tons of infection and deaths in your population you won’t be so popular and eventually the West will kick your ass back into the desert.
I believe all of the issues surrounding Islamification are linked, don’t you? Islam is attempting to dominate the world, your very comment is a classic example of Muslim mentality.
As an ex Muslim psychologist states – no one can believe and follow the teachings of Islam, and emerge a mentally/emotionally healthy person!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykV4_tl3TTw&playnext_from=TL&videos=0c1IDro0pwI
islam is evil, the same can be said about christianity. face it. living in a “holy” book, and condemning the world because they can’t cope with it? you call christians sane?
no one here mentioned christians bein sane or insane at least the bible got changed to run with the century !!! i am of no faith it causes wars anywhere but christians are away of our land and we have them here as our culture weather good or bad we dont want any other such barbric mentally impaired evil way as the islma muslim faiths they have proved they dont want to integrate into our ways and cultures so why should we have to accept them and thier injust actions if they are not willing to come here and accept us!!!!
You damn fool. We Christians DO NOT GO AROUND KILLING PEOPLE, DO NOT KILL PEOPLE THAT DO NOT BELIEVE THE SAME AS WE DO NOR ARE WE TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD AND FORCING EVERYONE TO LIVE LIKE US!!
I wouldn’t wanna be nursed by something that resembles kermit the frog! Kids are scared enough going into a hospital environment without having some scabby unwashed so called medic turning up in a halloween gown! The sun has always shone in the west until islam darkened the free world! Get over yourselves.
I think you meant to say “The sun is setting on the West!” You can’t even speak proper English! Why should Islamic culture be taught in British schools??? You want Islamic culture??? Go back where you came from!!! You want to be treated worse than a camel??? Go back to where you were born!! Or where your parents were born!!! Get out of England!!
No wonder you muslims are backwards, the sun rising in the west deal with it? LOL.. silly silly ignorant and clusless muslim. There is nothing to deal with the facts are facts. The sun now and has always risen in the east and sets in the west..you deal with it and stop being in denial..like most of you muslims are..
:arrow: I’m sorry but I have to say more, considerng how cluless you are, and your lack of an education is so apparent.You know that the west coast is 3 hrs behind the east coast and the only way that is possible is if the sun rises in the east and goes across the us heading westard making the west coast 3 hrs behind the east coast. There is eastern standard time, central standard time, mountain standared time and pacific standard time, these are all call time zones.. If you lived in the middle east where women are not allowed an education or you tried to get one in a western country if that is the case then its plain to see you were not paying attention in class. Go back to school or in your case to go school and educate your self..
theresa, grow a brain. go back and reread the “west” remark. you airhead bimbo. go get sterilized!
It is odd how one topic bleeds into another, much like a loosening of one law for hygiene practice will eventually lead to other “exceptions to the rule” for Muslims that will place non muslims at risk (at the very least, to a myriad of nosocomial infections!) As an American (if indeed you are) you are granted the right to freedom of religion, but you are not granted the right to harm other people in the process. France got it right, and America will no doubt follow suit if push comes to shove. Please see my comment below.
the sun is rising for us the great british european westners as it always has when we hit back!!! so i think its u thats needs to deal with it!!! as u well know!!!! HAHAHA right back at u!! it will be us laughin last as it always is!!! history tells a great story and u shouldnt be so blind to it!!!!
What a load of crap!!!:-x
the only crap is whats likely to be on there hands
Now there is a legal way to refuse to be “nursed” by such people: hygiene!
:-D
Unless things have changed very much since I was last in an English hospital – patients have the right to refuse to be treated by anyone they feel may be detrimental to their health.
Of course they have to sign a piece of paper saying that they accept responsibility, but if enough of us refuse someone may realise that we mean business.
EU regulations require the patient to give an “informed consent” before an operation, insist on seeing the face of the surgeon before operating – tell then you wish “to know who to sue if anything goes wrong”.
Only our acceptance of this trampling of our rights is allowing it to happen.
Complaining on blogs is emotionally satisfying – suing the hospital may have a more long-term effect.
That’s what happens when you try to civilize monkeys.