Despite the refusal of the Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass, to release any DNA results which might indicate the racial ancestry of Pharaoh Tutankhamen, the leaked results reveal that King Tut’s DNA is a 99.6 percent match with Western European Y chromosomes.
The DNA test results were inadvertently revealed on a Discovery Channel TV documentary filmed with Hawass’s permission — but it seems as if the Egyptian failed to spot the giveaway part of the documentary which revealed the test results.
Hawass previously announced that he would not release the racial DNA results of Egyptian mummies — obviously because he feared the consequences of such a revelation.
On the Discovery Channel broadcast, which can be seen on the Discovery Channel website here, or if they pull it, on YouTube here, at approximately 1:53 into the video, the camera pans over a printout of DNA test results from King Tut.
Firstly, here is a brief explanation of the results visible in the video. It is a list of what is called Short Tandem Repeats (STRs).
STRs are repeated DNA sequences which are “short repeat units” whose characteristics make them especially suitable for human identification.
These STR values for 17 markers visible in the video are as follows:
DYS 19 – 14 (? not clear)
DYS 385a – 11
DYS 385b – 14
DYS 389i – 13
DYS 389ii – 30
DYS 390 – 24
DYS 391 – 11
DYS 392 – 13
DYS 393 – 13
DYS 437 – 14 (? not clear)
DYS 438 – 12
DYS 439 – 10
DYS 448 – 19
DYS 456 – 15
DYS 458 – 16
DYS 635 – 23
YGATAH4 – 11
What does this mean? Fortunately, a genius by the name of Whit Athey provides the key to this list. Mr Athey is a retired physicist whose working career was primarily at the Food and Drug Administration where he was chief of one of the medical device labs.
Mr Athey received his doctorate in physics and biochemistry at Tufts University, and undergraduate (engineering) and masters (math) degrees at Auburn University. For several years during the 1980s, he also taught one course each semester in the electrical engineering department of the University of Maryland. Besides his interest in genetic genealogy, he is an amateur astronomer and has his own small observatory near his home in Brookeville, MD.
He also runs a very valuable website called the “Haplogroup Predictor” which allows users to input STR data and generate the haplogroup which marks those STR data.
For those who want to know what a haplogroup is, here is a “simple” definition: a haplogroup is a group of similar haplotypes that share a common ancestor with a single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) mutation.
Still none the wiser? Damn these scientists.
Ok, let’s try it this way: a haplotype is a combination of multiple specific locations of a gene or DNA sequence on a chromosome.
Haplogroups are assigned letters of the alphabet, and refinements consist of additional number and letter combinations, for example R1b or R1b1. Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups have different haplogroup designations. In essence, haplogroups give an inisight into ancestral origins dating back thousands of years.
By entering all the STR data inadvertently shown on the Discovery video, a 99.6 percent fit with the R1b haplogroup is revealed.
The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through.
So much for the Afro-centrists and others who have derided the very obvious northwestern European appearance of a large number of the pharonic mummies. It seems like March of the Titans was right after all…
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CN
Are you retarded or something? I have never ONCE said that Europeans in Europe proper are “Arab Semitic white”?
NO you dunce! I SAID Europeans/whites are SEMITES because the R1b halogroup shows a 96% match to King Tut and the earliest white Egyptians were from Shem.
I have asked you repeatedly to show ANY evidence that links Arab/white Semites at a higher match to King Tut than European/whites WHO ARE FROM SHEM YOU DINGLEBERRY!
You simply keep making claims about what is and what is not a Semite marker with NO EVIDENCE while I have provided ample evidence to show the white Egyptians were from Shem (like us white Israelites are) and that WE have the highest match to Tut-NOT YOU.
You’re a freaking JOKE and everyone here knows it. With your tactics, most in my circle would believe you a “Jew” employed by the State of “Israel” to make stupidly doltish claims while pretending to be an Arab.
Nuff said and please do NOT write me back without answering anyone of the some 4 direct questions I asked you- without the evidence to show Arabs have a higher match R1b to Tut than us European whites from TRUE Israel- Semites!
TP
Let me say it as simply as possible so you can comprehend it – Indo European Aryan White (Europeans) and Arabs Semitic Whites are two DIFFERENT ethnic groups – Europeans are NOT Semites, Semites are NOT Europeans – do you understand? TRANSLATION – King Tut was ARAB Semitic White, NOT, Indo European Aryan White.
TP
Dude – QUIT claiming Europeans are Arab Semitic White, as was King Tut:Indo European Aryan Whites lack four haplomarkers that make Semitic Whites, SEMITIC – here are the Ethnic Haplomarkers in a shell – (do your own legwork):Caucasoid – E (only subclade E1b1b is a Caucasoid marker-all other sublades of E are Negroid haplomarkers), F(Semites), H, I, J(Semites-1 & 2), K, L3(Semites), T, U, V(Semites), W, X, Y.
Mongoloid(anthropologists now include American Indians(Red) and Malaysians(Brown) ethnicities in this group – C, D, F, G, O, Q, S- American Indians also have A, B, and X.
Negroid – A, B , E(except for subclade E1b1b which is a Caucasoid haplomarker), L1 & L2, M & N-all groups have these, but certain subclades are restricted to Blacks-presence of N in Blacks is not clearly defined and is possibly considered due to genetic backflow rather than present normally.
M, N – is present in ALL ethnicities, but certain subclades are restricted to only Blacks.
P, R, Z – Caucasoid and Mongoloids only, not Blacks.
CN,
you might be able to dupe some of these other whites who dont know history, archeology, scriptures, lingustics and the migrations of people with your Ishmael white title and blessing stealing claptrap- but you can’t bullsh-t me pal. Christ Jesus, white Semite from Jacob,Israel-Judah our KINSFOLK, who is INSIDE us, will make sure of that!
CN,
You know, I have tried to remain civil during this discussion but you have tried my patience to the hilt with your BS tactics.
Just so you know- simply stating something does not make it real reality. Case in point?
I asked you if you disputed the quote from the article.
Your responce was quite fake Jewish in nature as you refused to give a yes or no but instead, repeated your claims, this time with links, WHICH SHOW EUROPEANS ARE SEMITIC.
In short, YOUR EVIDENCE SUPPORTS MY CLAIMS but you don’t want to admit that Europeans are Semitic. Just like fake Jews, you try to claim every single title and blessing that according to ALL scriptures was given to seperate but related people through Shem Abraham. Shem to Eber made the early Egyptians. Shem to Abraham to Ishmael made the white Arabs. Shem to Esau to Canannites made Esau so called Jews. Shem to Abraham to Isaac to Jacob to the 12/13 tribes made European whites INCLUDING Indo Europeans, but 2 of those tribes which now rule reside in the European population because we DO NOT HAVE A SAMPLE OF JACOB Shemites we are testing, we have a sample of Egyptian Shemites from Eber we are testing.
I also asked you to show the genetic claims of Ishmael Arabs having a higher match to Rb1 than Europeans.
What do I get? CRICKETS WHILE every SINGLE link you give proves me correct and NOT you.
Finally,the evidence presented concerning Buddha is in the form of archeological, linguistic, historical and scriptural. No one in their right mind denies that white Aryans (who were dispursed northern tribes of Israel) formed the Indian nation and their original ancient Vedas.
You, like some other people here totally ignore the migrations of people assuming evidently that everyone has stayed in the same place for thousands of years. Well if that was true, why are there white mummies in India, China, South and Central America, North America and in the middle east? The Israelites (Aryans) as they were called there, LEFT the area after building it, most of them coming trough the Cauacasion mountains pouring into Europe and then spreading both west and east, eastablishing later the Russian Christian Czars.
In order to prove that Europeans have a genetic link to the Aryans of old while in India, we need a sample of DNA from one of their remains there but I would not hold your breath. Atheistic “Jews” have a damn good lock on science and hate it when they inadvertenly give out proofs that continue to expose them in their identity theft.
Lastly, I am done with you. Provide yes or no answers with the genetic samples to show Ishmael white Arabs have a closer relation to Tut than Europeans or KNOW everyone here will see your ducking of the questions as yet further proof of your unmidigated horsesh-t!
We, the white Israelites have been EVERYWHERE establishing civilzation after civilizations. Shoot, we ARE civilization.
TP
R1b origins – King Tut’s DNA is Semitic, NOT, Indo European Aryan White: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b1_%28Y-DNA%29 and http://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_Y-DNA_haplogroups.shtml and http://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_Y-DNA_haplogroups.shtml want more, just ask. DNA does NOT back any of your claims about Buddha.
CN
I must have you qualify your statements. If you are saying that Rb1 is not found in the European/UK and white popuations of America- Colonies of England throughout the world, then you are simply denying reality- period!
I am not going back to what YOU THINK you “hashed out”, I am quoting the article DIRECTLY
“By entering all the STR data inadvertently shown on the Discovery video, a 99.6 percent fit with the R1b haplogroup is revealed.
The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through.”
So, ENOUGH of your word games! Tell us all right now, do you dispute the quote from the article above- yes or no, and if YES, provide the GENETIC EVIDENCE to show that Rb1 of Tut is NOT a 99.6% match of those western Europeans TODAY.
Then show us the genetic evidence to show that Semite Arabs from Ishmael are a HIGHER match than us.
If you choose to duck this direct line of questioning know that this action is an open admission that you’re full of sh-t.
Nuff said..
TP
You asked – you got: http://miriamhakedosha.blogspot.com/2010/12/middle-eastern-r1b-y-dna.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b1_%28Y-DNA%29 and http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Y-chromosome_DNA_haplogroup PLEEEEEEEENTY more where that came from – just ask.
TP
R1b is Semitic, NOT, Indo European Aryan, White – Semitic as in Arab – go back to the answers at the beginning – all has been hashed out.
TP & Yo Yo
King Tut was mostly Arab Semitic White – NOT, Indo European Aryan White – the Hebrews, ancestors of BOTH, some Jews, and, Some Arabs – were NEVER slaves in Egypt, but harshly treated PAID workers. R1b is an Arab Semitic White haplomarker.
If King Tut was mostly Ishmael white, then you would be able to show a higher rate of DNA matches then us white European Israelites from Jacob. This, both you and I know you cannot do.
The word Hebrew comes from Eber and he existed before Abraham and after Shem so yes, if white Arabs have a some Rb1 markers then this only proves that Ishmaelite Arabs come from Shem or Abraham too which I have never denied. What is at stake here is who has the closest match to Egyptian Shemites and that is my people, the white/Europeans from Jacob/Israel. This cannot be denied so unless you have DNA showing a larger match than 99.6%, your claims fall flat on their face.
Your definition of “slaves” is not based on realistic reality. One is always a slave to one thing or another but as we define actual human slavery, this is when a person does not have recognized rights, only privileges which by definition every US citizen falls into per their 14th Amendment status- the beginning of a major replay of what happened to us in Egypt long ago.
In early America, whites and blacks were indentured servants/slaves but one could only be enslaved for 7 years and then they were to be freed and given land in accord with actual law, Christian common law. This changed when a black slave master did not want to let his black slave go and took him to court. The court ruled in the slave masters favor which brought about perpetual slavery in America and many of those slaves were paid workers too. Many of them got an allowance too.
Only whites from Jacob/Israel had their whole people enslaved in Egypt, not Arabs from Ishmael and absolutely not any Esau-Edomite-Idumeans. They even admitted this to our kinsman and savior Jesus Christ when he said to them “If you continue to obey my teaching, then you are truly my followers. Then you will know the truth. And the truth will make you free.” The Jews answered, “We are Abraham’s people. And we have never been slaves (Never been slaves in even in Egypt). So why do you say that we will be free?” Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth. Every person that sins is a slave. Sin is his master. A slave does not stay with a family forever. But a son belongs to the family forever. So if the Son makes you free, then you will be truly free. I know you are Abraham’s people (From Esau). But you want to kill me. Why? Because you don’t want to accept my teaching. I am telling you what my Father has shown me. But you do the things that your father has told you.” The Jews said, “Our father is Abraham. ” Jesus said, “If you were really Abraham’s children, then you would do the things Abraham did. I am a man who has told you the truth I heard from God. But you are trying to kill me. Abraham did nothing like that. So you are doing the things your own father did.” But the Jews said, “We are not like children that never knew who their father was. God is our Father. He is the only Father we have.” Jesus said to those (Esau) Jews, “If God were really your Father, then you would love me. I came from God, and now I am here. I did not come by my own authority. God sent me. You don’t understand these things I say. Why? Because you cannot accept my teaching. Your father is the devil (Esau mixed with Canaanites who had mixed with fallen angels). You belong to him. You want to do what he wants. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. He was always against the truth. There is no truth in him. He is like the lies he tells. Yes, the devil is a liar. He is the father of lies. I speak the truth. That is why you don’t believe me. Can any of you prove that I am guilty of sin? If I tell the truth, then why don’t you believe me? The person that belongs to God accepts what God says. But you don’t accept what God says, because you don’t belong to God.”
Those who left Egypt during the Exodus where white Shemite Israelites from Jacob and the mixed Egyptian/Israelite Shemites. There were no Arabs of Ishmael and no Esau so called Jews.
The evidence (DNA) clearly shows we Western White/Europeans have a match rate with King Tut that no people, including white Arabs can beat and this is because we are closely related today being the offspring of Joseph and his Egyptian wifes children Ephriam and Manassah- two of the 12-13 tribes of Jacob/Israel. If you think you can identity Arab whites as a closer match then present the evidence that out does our 99.6% match.
Concerning the Aryan whites this might interest you to know that for example Buddha was actually what we call today Saxon.
**http://www.anglo-saxonisrael.com/content/buddha-was-saxon
CN
You do not understand the migrations nor the timeline.These links show the timelines, the migrations, linquistic evidence, archeological evidence that perfectly match the Septugiant OT account.
Before we go there, the so called Jews are NOT the tribes of Judah and Israel. You simply do not understand the truth to which even the “Jews” admit.
“Edom is modern Jewry.” – “Encyclopaedica Judaica”, 1925
“JEWS BEGAN TO CALL THEMSELVES HEBREWS AND ISRAELITES IN 1860”. ~ Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23
“Strictly speaking it is INCORRECT to call an Ancient Israelite a Jew or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.” (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3).
The late Rabbi Stephen F. Wise, formerly the Chief Rabbi of the United States said, “The return from Babylon and the introduction of the Babylonian Talmud mark the end of Hebrewism and the beginning of Judaism
Dr Raymond Capt; What happened to the 12 tribes of Israel?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33DC4UatExo
King Tut’s DNA has been analyzed and compared to other samples. Why do people hate the new facts based on solid science, and instead believe pure hypothesis? Egyptians may have been dark skinned, but the ruler and imposer of culture was made up of the light skinned european royal class. People who have based their life on nubian black power sure have some soul searching to do. LOL
Yo Yo
Again, you are not understanding the timeline. Was America founded as a white nation? yes. Did some black arrive a little later? Yes. Before the arrival of whites AGAIN to America, were there not Asiatic Indians? Yes and before the Indians, were there not whites only? Yes, like the Soltran and Kennewick man evidence shows. So, you are stuck in a time warp.
First, whites from Abraham came to Egypt and built the Pyramids. Then, Abraham’s relatives from their father Eber took over the land as Abraham moved back east. Later, Abraham’s grandson Jacob and his sons came back to Egypt because of the famine. Then they left creating the early Israelite nation.
After this, the white semite Egyptans made slaves and conqured Nubia. They brought them into Egypt and over a period of time the black nubians took over so were there blacks in Egypt? Yes, in the late stages there were and eventually they took over putting an end to white Semite Egypt. Sort of like what we see happening in white nations the globe over through Jewish controlled multiculturalism. Whites are heading for total minority status in their own nations as every race and culture on the planet is flooding our lands.
TP
You are a LATE comer – we had this dicussion at the very beginning – the R1b haplogroup ORIGINATES in the ME – spread to Europe – King Tut was mostly Arab Semitic White – some Black (sub Saharan mix). i have not heard of any description of jesus from HIS time period – the true ethnic Jews – Mizrahi, and, Arabs generally – 80% have dark hair, eyes, and, skin, much like Southern Europeans – Greeks, Southern Italians, Southern Germans, Turks, Tamils (people of India, iranians/Persians, and, so on.20% are like Northern Europeans, and, run the Gamut.Now – the Ancient Egyptians were Arab Semitic White – their were Indo European Aryan White Rulers (Greeks, Turks, Persians) – very SHORT periods, and, Black Nubians in points in their. Then like NOW, Egypt was/is 65% Arab Semitic White, 30% Black, Black Arab mix, 5% all others – of course – Egypt is the cross roads of Asians(oriental), Blacks, Europeans, and, Semites – a very rich culture of peoples – Jews were NOT slaves – they were harshly treated paid workers – as were all.Sephardi Jews are EUROPEAN, NOT Mizrahi, Jews.
CN,
It does not matter if I came on this paticular link late. I have ben studying this long than most would imagine. Just because R1b Haplogroup originates in the ME means ZERO. Why? Because you are not taking into the account the whereabouts of the different people throughout the timeline and their migrations later.King Tut was a white Semite from one of the children of Eber who fathered Abraham too.
As to the descriptions of Jesus- look above where I posted a link to the historical record.
As to “true Jews” you do not understand. This is why I keep spelling it out for you.
The people you think are the “Jews” today are from Esau-Edom-Idumea
“Edom (Esau) is modern Jewry.” – “Encyclopaedica Judaica”, 1925
“JEWS BEGAN TO CALL THEMSELVES HEBREWS AND ISRAELITES IN 1860”. ~ Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23
“Strictly speaking it is INCORRECT to call an Ancient Israelite a Jew or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.” (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3).
The late Rabbi Stephen F. Wise, formerly the Chief Rabbi of the United States said, “The return from Babylon and the introduction of the Babylonian Talmud mark the end of Hebrewism and the beginning of Judaism.”
After the dispursion of the northern tribes of Israel between 745 and 721 BC they were carried as far east as India. Some groups stayed in the eastern regions (like northern Iran) and northern regions (like Greece and modern Georgia) while most escaped flooding through the Caucasion Mountains.
To see the migrations of Israel these links are for your persual
The Hebrew and the English language slideshow
http://www.anglo-saxonisrael.com/content/hebrews-and-english-language
The identity challenge by Pastor Eli James
http://www.anglo-saxonisrael.com/content/identity-challenge
The Magog and Gog slideshow series showing that Esau and Ashkenaz “Jews” are Gog and Magog.
http://www.anglo-saxonisrael.com/content/gog-magog-series
Struggle for the Birthright by Dr Stephan Jones explains all of this..
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teachings/books/the-struggle-for-the-birthright/chapter-1-birthright/
The Haroldtry of the “lost tribes” sideshow
http://www.anglo-saxonisrael.com/content/heraldry-lost-tribes
Real Israels migration series slideshow
http://www.anglo-saxonisrael.com/content/israels-migrations-series
Dr Raymond Capt; What happened to the 12 tribes of Israel?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33DC4UatExo
CN,
Just because the haplogroup originates in the ME means ZERO. King Tut was NOT Arab anything although the builders of the Pyramids and later rulers in that land from Eber (father of Abraham who begate Ishmael,Isaac, Esau, Jacob and the 12/13 tribes) are related to the Arabs.
TP
The Ancient Arab Egyptians were Semitic, NOT, Indo European Aryan, White – the European Jews(Khazaars) are MOSTLY by religious conversion, and, are Indo European Aryan, NOT, Semitic, White, some mixing with Mizrahi(Middle East Semitic White Jews).
CN,
The builders of the Pyramids around 4000 years ago were from Abraham/white Semites. Later, another line of Eber/white semites took over.Abraham, Isaac and Jacob Semite whites came back around 1200 BC. They left again around 1000 BC and founded the early nation of Israel with the 12/13 tribes, two of which were half Egyptian white Semites and half Abraham Semite whites- Ephriam-Manassah.
I am not disputing that Arabs are not white semites but I do dispute that they built the Pyramids and that they lived in Egypt in mass ever ruling the nation.
Look up E Raymond Capt- Decoding the Pyramid and you will see that the Septuigant account (real OT) of Genesis is absolutely correct, as are the books of Eden that the Israelites took out of there during the exodus. The great Pyramid is encoded everywhere prophesying Jesus Christ, his first coming and also the entire history of the Adamic race from Adam to Noah to Abraham,Isaac, Jacob and finally Jesus Christ- to the end of this present age, and even his second coming.
Let me put it this way
1.Adam to Noah to Shem (Semite) to Eber (many kids) to Abraham.
2. Ishmael makes the Arab Semites
23. Esau makes the Sephardic “Jews” who are partly semites today and only from maternal line. The rest of them are a mixture of Cannanite and even some old Roman (Israelite) blood due to the Romans raping all their women and killing all their men by 135 AD.
4. The Ashkenaz from the Khazars are from Japeth and not Shem like you and I are. They are not really “Europeans”. They flooded into eastern Europe after they lost their Kingdom around 800 AD. Later, they made their way into Europe and along with their Esau Sephardic masters, got booted by us some 109 times in the last 1200 years.
Ishmael= White Arabs and their Kingdoms= Shemites
Jacob= White Europeans and their nations at the 4 corners of the earth= Semites
Esau= Sephardics, partly white Semites
Ashkenaz= no white, no Semites but they are from Japeth.
What this actually proves is that the tribes of Ephriam and Manassah who have ruling authority in this age (except for the Esau “Jews” who rule for a short time until the end of this age) when the Lord Jesus Christ comes back collecting 12,000 from each tribe totaling 144,000 taking over this evil “Jewish” NWO.
Joseph married a white Egyptain Priestess and they had two children- Ephriam and Manassah. This is why Western Europeans and their Christian nations at the four corners of the earth have Egyptian genetics. They are part Egyptian and Part REAL Shemites/Israelites. The so called Jews are from Esau NEVER having been slaves in Egypt and never being more than resembling Judaites, citizens only, when King Hycranus of REAL Judah let them in during the maccabees. These Esau “Jews” murdered the King, took over the priesthood and imposed the babylonian Talmud persecution the REAL judaites based on their race and true religion. Sound familiar? It should, we are presently experiencing a historical repeat.
The “Jews” are not Semites, they are not Hebrews, they are not Judaites or Israelites. Today, they are the maternal remnant of Esau (part Semite) and their Ashkenaz from Khazaria converts (From Japeth and not Shem) otherwise known as Gog and Magog whom are doomed to lose their world Government to the real Israelites and their TRUE Messiah Jesus Christ at the end of this paticular age. Jacob always rules during the body of the earth ages and Esau always rules at the very end of the earth age only to lose it back to the real Israelite/Judaites from Jacob.
Citizen
Arabs, and, the closely related ETHNIC (by religious conversion, any ethnicity) Jews are Semitic White (look much like Southern Europeans – dark skin, hair, and, eyes NO MIXING).
TK
Apparently, you are NOT aware – North Africa, is NOW a part of the ME, and, is Arab Semitic White.
Gary
To clarify – Northern (Lower Egypt) is Arab Semitic , NOT, European, White – King Tut was mostly Arab Semitic White – the further you go South into Upper Egypt, the MORE Black it becomes.
CN,
You are mistaken. Shem (white)also known as Melkizadec had the promises given down from Adam to Noah. These promises went to Abraham. His handmaiden, not lawful wife, produced his first son called Ishmael. He was promised 12 Kingdoms and we can see them today in the ME. Abraham and his lawful wife Sarah had a son at a very old age. His name was Isaac and he obtained the fruitfullness and ruling authority over the earth. Isaac had two twin sons; the first was Esau and second was Jacob. Esau lost both birthrights to Jacob although he was given the right to rule by violence, tyranny and the sword/war at the VERY end of the earth ages. Jacob was given the ruling and fruitfulness authority during the body of the earth ages as even the last two thousands year proves.Jacob/Israel is father of the 12/13 tribes and his last son Joseph with his white Egyptian wife fathered Ephriam and Manassah who have ruled the last 1900 years. These genetic tests prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt because less than 1% of those Arabs who live in Egypt have ANY genetic links to Tut while we white/Semite Europeans have an EXACT MATCH in most all of our populations. These last 100 years, Esau “JEWS” have ruled and they will have this power until we white Semites from real Israel/Judah unseat them with Christ ushering in the new earth age.
So are Arabs Semites? Yes. Are “Jews” Semites? Well, Esau is part white Semite but only from maternal lines. Their Ashkenaz coverts (they are NOT European/whites) are from Japeth and not Shem.
So the real Semites of the world are the full whites (Europeans/whites), the Arabs, and partly the Sephardic “Jews”.
The Semites from Abraham built the Pyramids. White Semites of Eber (cousins of Abraham) from where the word Hebrew comes from took over and ruled it for a long time. White Semites of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob lived there during and after the 7 year famine when they came back.They left later during the exodus and created the early Republic of Israel with the 12/13 tribes of Jacob/Israel.
Later, the black Nubian infiltrated into Egypt and through race mixing spelled the end of the white/Semite Egyptians who still lived in Egypt.
The reason why Europeans have these genetic markers to Egypt is because we Ephriamites and Manassahites are of the tribes of Israel who flooded into Europe proper starting around 600 BC after the Assyrian captivity. Later, the last members of the southern tribes of Judah joined us after Christ appeared the first time 2000 years ago.
Tp
Hope you know in Egypt there is no record of a Joseph or his so called sons and where did u see that the woman was white cos the bible your quoting never said that Egyptians where blacks and more DNA testing on the mummys prove so .I really wonder where you got your inFormation from becase am sure its not the bible or Egypt
TK,
That is total nonsense. Athiestic Archeology loves to explain away or outright hide evidence of Joseph, the tribes and their exodus. Look up Ron Wyatt and the Exodus and you will see all the proof in the world.
TK
As to specifc evidence of Joseph in Egypt I direct you to these two links conserning the arechological evidence of archeologist Ron Wyatt who also discovered the massive amounts of Exodus evidence.
http://josephandisraelinegypt.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/archaeologist-jonathan-gray-ronn-wyatt-joseph-imhotep-egypt-and-the-bible/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIFajJF2WhA
CN..I believe I said that myself…My point being that the term “African” is a misconception since Africa is not entirely Negroid. Just as the Egyptians themselves were multicultural. The further north you travel, the lighter the population gets, the further south naturally the darker. When the “Out of Africa” hypothesis is discussed it’s interesting to note that the impression is that we started out as Black but magically transformed into the varied races once we stepped out of Africa. Do you really believe that? It has an almost biblical quality to it. Did God transform us into colors as he changed our tongues at the tower of Babel? How about the concept that we were NOT Negroid to begin with but simply that we initially evolved in a land now known as AFRICA and migrated outwards to magically transform into the varied races ….My theory is as good as any…
This is the same way they depicted Jesus as having blonde hair and blue eyes when they obviously knew he was a Jew am very sure in a few more decades theyll say anglosaxons were the first people to settle in America and built all the aztecs mounments the more you try to prove that egyptians are white the more people beive they are blacks anglosaxon my arse I wonda how barbarians can come from there caves to build such wonders.When we can clearly see Nubian influence in egypt please open ur eyes and free your minds race is nothing but a social construct L-)
Citizen
Every single eye witness account and even the Roman records say Jesus had blond/red hair and blue/grey eyes. The way the Esau “Jew” citizens and not ethnic Judaites looked who ruled in Judah by usurping the true Judaites was that they were dark and “tawny”, not tan due to tanning like us Europeans do.
Real Judaites lived in the Galilee area only by the time Christ came. Esau “Jews” ruled everywhere else as they allowed everyone into Judea to subdue their native foe- exactly like they are doing to us European/White/Semite Christians today in our nations through “multiculturalism”.
=)) You my friend are a clown lol this is the funniest thing I’ve heard in a while pls before you embarass yourslf try and do some meaniful research okay no gave a bloody description of Jesus stop saying rubbish and Jesus is from nazareth
And hope u know the reason Esau wuz darker than Jacob wuz cos he wuz hairy nt the color of his skin and Esau wuz Jacobs twin brother u are really funny so where is all your information coming from
TK,
Being “hairy” does NOT change skin color for God’s sake and you call me a clown? LOL.
Esau married a Cannanite and this is what lost him part of his birthrights to Jacob who married a white Shemite. Later, the Romans raped all the Esau “Jew” women and killed all of their men by 135 AD. This is why even today the so called Jews (Sephardics that is) trace their lineage via mothers line and not fathers patriarchial line like ALL scriptures dictate. Look below to my other posts with proof and also the links I have up for perusal.
Your an historical illiterate obviously
Here ya go
http://www.thenazareneway.com/likeness_of_our_saviour.htm
And am the illiterate what you has no archeaological or even written evidence your just quoting someonelse’s hypothesis with no proof there’s no evidence aniwhere of the people you mentiond and esau lost his birthright because Jacob deceived him not because he married a cananite woman if your going by your bible for historical reference please present concrete evidence
TK,
Scoll down to where I already answered this to CN. I posted about 6 links that show the archeological, linquistic, historical, scriptural and even outright admissions proving what I say is true.I cannot control your mouse for you so please exert that much effort and then if you have a dispute, BE SPECIFIC so one might SPECIFICALLY address whatever it is you do dispute.
Have you ever heard of the book of Jasher? It was kept out of the Council of Nicea codification like many other authoritative books such as the book of Eden or Adam and Eve etc. The Esau “Jew” Masoretic compilation was done about 1200 years after Christ by the imposters of Judah and Israel and is a illagitimate forgery that twists cap around, substitutes words, takes out entire passages and adds whatever it likes. Most modern bibles come from this pollution.
Read the book of Jasher here.http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/index.htm . Read 27:1-13. It explains why Esau sold his first birthright and also explains that his second birthright was given to Jacob at the direction of God through Esau and Jacob’s mother when she ORDERED Jacob to trick Issac in this matter saying SHE would take full responsibility! The Septuigant explains that Esau DESPISED his birthright which begs the question “what were these birthrights and where did they comes from”? I would direct you to Dr Stephan Jones excellent break down here http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teachings/books/the-struggle-for-the-birthright/chapter-2-the-story-of-esau/
Birthrights were and are hinged to the patriarchal seed and the old contract is completely predicated upon marrying INSIDE the seed of Shem directing the Israelites to never marry your daughter or son OUTSIDE your Semetic race. The old contract goes into great lengths speaking about how Esau married a Cannanite so you are party right about my assumption that this was the motive of Esau and Jacob’s Mom, by way of God, but what else could it be? He not only married outside his race against the wishes of both Isaac and Rebbeka and besides, Rebbeka overheard the coversation that established that the “older shall serve the younger”. Esau was older and Jacob was younger even though they were twins.
So please, enough of your lazy clatrap. If you have any disputes after reviewing ALL the evidence I have given here and BELOW, please be kind enough to be SPECIFIC!
Hope you know king tuk was an 18th dynasty king like 18th so the remaining 17 dynastys would automatically be white as well and how cares if his anglosaxion what does d@ prove, and can really see the resemblance how he looks so much like alexandre the Great yOu people are hypocrites a man from portuggal is much darker dan an english buth still white but an egyptian how is much liter than a nubian isnt black
Wow we r still on this topic of the egyptian race so annoying a country based in africa would have a population of white ppl quiet absurd and not to forget the Out of Africa theory so the people how migrated out of africa would decide to come back for what reason .DesPite how much the ancient egyptians potrayd themselves you still say they are white if u look in africa youll see people have differnt skin colors ranging from bllack to aLmost white with no admixture have you seen the igbos and edo people of Nigeria or the fulanis if they clearly stated they were a much darker shade than deir libyian neighbours why in Gods name are we arguing about this .Egypt is in Africa and deres no way dey mix with the whites across the sea and decide not to mis with the blacks behind them in nubia
CN…Thank you for stressing the fact that North Africans are in fact primarily Caucasian. It’s a popular misconception today that implies that the term “African” specifically denotes a Negroid population, when in fact it is much more diverse. North Africans are primarily Arab therefore Caucasian. Just as you noted, Southern Europeans and Northern Africans are closely linked. The further south you travel in Africa, the darker(more Negroid) the population becomes. As for Egyptians, they were multi-cultural and would themselves clearly indicate a difference and separation between themselves and the black “Nubians” to the south. To know that King Tut had European DNA in no way surprises me. It would surprise me to hear the contrary. And your mention of East Africa is also correct. Anyone who has seen or met any Sudanese, can clearly see they are an admixture of mainly Caucasian with a degree of Negroid. That being the case then why would Egyptians, who were further to the north have been more Negroid. Sometimes common sense gets lost when theories and beliefs are selfishly guarded.
BENJAHMENLEVY King Tut has very little Black DNA – name any Black weightlifting/ power lifting RECORD holders.
who cares we all KNOW BLACKS IS THE SUPERIOR STRONGER RACE THIS WHY SO MUCH HAVE BEEN STOLEN FROM US I bet my DNA MATCH HIM(KING TUT) + MATCH THE ISRAELITE cant wait for judgement day i bet a hundred years from now Europeans will b telling us OPRAH MICHEAL JORDAN N TUPAC IS WHITE 99.9 SOUTH EAST EUROPEANS BET UR CHILDREN WILL AGREE ITS THAM SHAME PEACE N LOVE IDC IF U A FAKE JEW ZIONIST
Mike McNamara
Semites don’t need to mix to be dark – 80% have dark skin, hair, and, eyes, like Southern Europeans,20% are like Northern Europeans WITHOUT mixing.
King Tut was 99.6% confirmed to be R1B1A2 along the paternal line. He may have become darker when many of Akhenaten’s grandparents took Iraqi indo-europrean speaking or black concubines daughters with them to marry. The first born male would still maintain power and kingship. Need more answers?
I recently visited the King Tut exhibit, which took place in Seattle, WA. A movie was provided prior to entry of the exhibit. A movie paid for by Chevron. I found the movie to be in the format of propaganda and I cringed as I sat through it.
Having lived in the United States since the late 1970s and having seen the racial struggles not only in daily life but also while in college and university, and the need of many African-Americans to associate themselves with the Egyptian artifacts to secure their place in history because of their documented treatment here in the United States suggesting them to be of an inferior race, that they are capable of grand accomplishments, I find it criminal for the Egyptian government and Dr. Hawass not to release available research information.
As I went through the exhibit knowing that it was sold as an opportunity to see King Tut’s burial artifacts, I found it to be limited and not a true tribute to the artifacts found under this pharaoh; rather, a showcase of what the curators thought would do well in selling the concept.
Walking through the exhibit, only one question was on my mind—since I had seen only pictures of the statues before seeing them in person, will I be able to identify the racial background of these individuals? When I discovered that a genetic test had been performed, I thought that perhaps the question has been answered. I thought that researchers who gather all information and write papers on the subject, as scientists would do, that such papers would be available for everyone to read, since I had heard Dr. Hawass state in a program that Egyptian artifacts do not belong to one nation but all humanity. Therefore, all information should be provided to professional as well as amateur archeologists. Omitting certain information amounts to censorship, which has no place in scientific work.
Shahab, You are insightful, intelligent and really make good points. Thank you for saying what we all think. About censorship and all the beautiful history belonging to the entire world.
innumerable scientific epidemiological Studies have strongly suggested Haplogroup A, XXX, YX, 09H7, and dU5 are recurrent DNA genomes on Central European Men but not in North Substrata African Males. This of course leads one immersed in genetic variation in pre-historic human migrations to the inevitable conclusion that present day male Egyptians prefer to sleep late on weekends unless female family obligations stress early arousal.
Whats all the argument about. Egypt is in Africa and the first humans were out of Africa. Look around you and you see the further north you go the whiter people become. The further south you go people get darker. Some Arabs, quite a lot actually seem to have a need to distance themselves from one of their their originators the Black Man the other being the White Man. A second view is that first there was Black, then a lighter shade of Black to white. The third view is that Both Black and White were created and they produced all the other races in between.
Based on past evidence and not eclusively on science I would rather believe a so called third world scientist or historian over thier European counterparts. Therefore one would need to study both extremes, black and white so to speak, to reach the various correct concusions.
Today we are finding out about the lengths the dominant establishment will go to alter the truth and mislead the people. The TRUTH is out and no amount of scientific shenanigans can withstand time and TIME is what we are running out of. I say publish the truth and be damned.
i was surprised that the late Pharaoh of Egypt has a race of western Europe.thanks for sharing this information. it’s a big discovery!
There are many things from the past that we were never taught. Read and watch (short video) about ancient inventions that are basically being swept under the carpet because there is no easy explanation. They are all quietly tucked into museums around the world.
http://www.educatinghumanity.com/2011/04/technology-from-past-that-fit-no-modern.html
I guess DNA TRIBES has put a rest to the CENTURIES of lying and wishful thinking by the barbaric Europeans :oops: . Tut is TOTALLY and COMPLETELY BLACK AFRICAN, now you can run off to China and pretend you are the creators of it, LOL.
Who invented the computers you are using? White westerners did invent modern China as far as the technology so they don’t need to “claim” anything. Everyone knows. But I don’t know if you are serious or not, you are so ridiculous.
John Hammurabi
I have pointed out several times now – Arabs have all the same Caucasian haplomarkers Europeans do, plus four more, making then Semitic White rather than Indo European Aryan White, that no other ethnic group has.It stands to reason that Europeans have some haplomarkers in common with Arabs.Carol Thatcher, Margaret Thatcher’s daughter has 24% Arab heritage: http://genealogy.about.com/b/2006/10/30/thatchers-middle-eastern-roots.htm
However, the geneticists were not sure how Tutankhemun’s paternal lineage came to Egypt from its region of origin. The centre is now using DNA testing to search for the closest living relatives of “King Tut”. How absurd! However, the so-called “geneticists” are not sure how a Barbarian reached Egypt 10,000 years ago.
My advice is to start looking near the artic circle, for that is where they would have lived, if they would have evolved during that period, as of yet. This is simply another case of the BarbArians placing themselves in ancient Hamite civilzations, where they were not. Maybe they should also take a look at mythical Madai, maybe he was a fictional Mede.
(See ‘Science Fiction @ www. af.reuters.com/article/egyptNews/idAFL3E7J135P20110801)
A personal genomics company in Switzerland says they’ve reconstructed a DNA profile of King Tutankhamen by watching the Discovery Channel, claiming the results suggest more than half of Western European men are related to the boy king. But researchers who worked to decode Tut’s genome in the first place say the claim is “unscientific.”
Swiss genomics company iGENEA has launched a Tutankhamen DNA project based on what they say are genetic markers that appeared on a computer screen during a Discovery Channel special on the famous pharaoh’s genetic lineage.
“Maybe they didn’t know what they showed, but we got 16 markers from the Y chromosome from these pharaohs,” Roman Scholz, the managing director of iGENEA, told LiveScience.
James the Just
Look up the statistics on government aid in the US – the largest numbers, and, percentages, are Whites. GEE – China sure seems to be enjoying the interest on the loans the US gets from them. Seems the Japanese have made the most advancements in technology lately. Set aside your bigotry.
the Skeptic
Guess you just don’t like Arab/Black admixture – that is how J* got there, or, any of the other ethnic groups – your source is OLD and OUTDATED – even used one of YOUR other source to show J* doe NOT occur in Blacks – NOW, consider it resolved – you need not respond further.
This is resolved. The deletion has been detected in men who are not Hg J12f2.2-8kb. The deletion has been connected to infertility. Africans, Asians, and Native Americans do not have the deletion but the ancestral allele 12f2.1-10-kb.
You can have the last uninformative word on J*12f2. This issue is resolved. Kaput. Dead. Done. Buried. I shall not respond to this topic again.
Get interesting.
The Skeptic – I already provided you with several MORE recent links by authorities showing the J* originates in the ME, and, does NOT occur in Blacks(or, any other ethnic group), unless MIXED. Additionally, here is a link from YOUR link showing an excellent chart: http://www.members.cox.net/generalbanks/completecategorieshapj.html
http://s4.zetaboards.com/Afro_Asian_mt_DNA/topic/9089333/1/#new
Divergent outcomes of intrachromosomal recombination on the human Y chromosome: male infertility and recurrent polymorphism. By P Blanco, M Shlumukova, C Sargent, M Jobling, N Affara, M Hurles
http://www.mendeley.com/research/divergent-outcomes-intrachromosomal-recombination-human-y-chromosome-male-infertility-recurrent-polymorphism/
“The Y chromosome provides a unique opportunity to study mutational processes within the human genome, decoupled from the confounding effects of interchromosomal recombination.
…It has been suggested that the increased density of certain dispersed repeats on the Y could account for the high frequency of causative microdeletions relative to single nucleotide mutations in infertile males.
…Previously we localised breakpoints of an AZFa microdeletion close to two highly homologous complete human endogenous retroviral sequences (HERV), separated by 700kb.
…Here we show, by sequencing across the breakpoint, that the microdeletion occurs in register within a highly homologous segment between the HERVs.
…Furthermore, we show that recurrent double crossovers have occurred between the HERVs, resulting in the loss of a 1.5kb insertion from one HERV, an event underlying the first ever Y chromosomal polymorphism described, the 12f2 deletion.
…This event produces a substantially longer segment of absolute homology and as such may result in increased predisposition to further intrachromosomal recombination.
…Intrachromosomal crosstalk between these two HERV sequences can thus result in either homogenising sequence conversion or a microdeletion causing male infertility.
…This represents a major subclass of AZFa deletions.
Keywords: HERV; AZFa; infertility; Y chromosome.
the Skeptic
Resolved as in Arab admixture gives many Ethiopians, Somalis, and Sudanese more Caucasian looking features above, and, beyond phenotypical variation, and that the J* haplomarker group ia a Semitic White haplomarker occurring in Semites, and mixed peoples.
8-| What you just wrote my friend makes no sense stop trying to claim something so stupid and where did u get ur facts from. So all black Ppl have to have bIg nose n big liPs
the Skeptic
Resolved as in there is Arab admixture in Ethiopians, Somalis, and, Sudanese, that give them a more Caucasian look than phenotypical variation, and, the J* haplomarkers are Semitic White that are present in these groups.
This issue is resolved
The Skeptic
FIRST, quit denying Arab admixture for the more Caucasian looks of Somalis,Ethiopians, and,, Sudanese, BEYOND phenotypical variation – even your OWN sources back this – it happened – get over it.
SECOND, read the article MORE closely -QUOTE,”“…The p12f2 PROBE(***emphasis, mine***) also detected Y-specific DNA fragments in the gorilla and chimpanzee.”” It was NOT detected but used to find fragments – translation – SIMILARITIES between apes,and, humans – chimpanzees vary genetically from humans by less than 1/2 of 1 %. Keep trying – how many times, NOW, have you told us this matter was resolved???
A human Y-linked DNA polymorphism and its potential for estimating genetic and evolutionary distance.
http://www.mendeley.com/research/human-ylinked-dna-polymorphism-potential-estimating-genetic-evolutionary-distance/
“…The p12f2 probe also detected Y-specific DNA fragments in the gorilla and chimpanzee.”
Are these also White-Semites?
You blew it. The deletion is a unique genomic evolutionary event.
CN
You are wasting my time. This issue is resolved.
the Skeptic
You are NOT comprehending your copy/paste – QUOTE, ““Group VI (haplotype 54, which carries the M201 mutation, …, which carry the p12f2 mutation) represents 16% and 5% of the northern and eastern African chromosomes, respectively, but is absent in sub-Saharan populations.” – TRANSLATION – NORTH AFRICA IS ESSENTIALLY ARAB SEMITIC WHITE.
QUOTE, “…Haplotypes carrying the M201 or p12f2 mutations are common in southern central Europe and the Middle East (Semino et al. 1996, 2000; Rosser et al. 2000; Malaspina et al. 2001; Scozzari et al. 2001), and their distribution has been associated with the Neolithic expansion from the Middle East (Semino et al. 1996, 2000; Bosch et al. 2001)(***NOTE*** – emphasis mine). It is worth noting that the frequency of group VI chromosomes in the Ethiopian Jews (just one chromosome out of 22) is similar to that reported for the p12f2 chromosomes in the Oromo from Ethiopia (4%) and is considerably lower than the frequency reported for the Amhara of the same region (33%), for whom a strong Middle Eastern genetic component has been reported (Semino et al. 2002)(***NOTE*** – emphasis mine). These data, together with those reported elsewhere (Ritte et al. 1993a, 1993b; Hammer et al. 2000) suggest that the Ethiopian Jews acquired their religion without substantial genetic admixture from Middle Eastern peoples and that they can be considered an ethnic group with essentially a continental African genetic composition.”,( ***NOTE – little(some Arab Semitic White admixture – NOT totally absent as shown by the haplomarkers), ”
What don’t you get – shows presence of Arab Semitic White admixture from forced, and, consensual, unions from the slave trade?
CN
You are a very hard headed person, lol.
“Group VI (haplotype 54, which carries the M201 mutation, …, which carry the p12f2 mutation) represents 16% and 5% of the northern and eastern African chromosomes, respectively, but is absent in sub-Saharan populations.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC447595/
…Haplotypes carrying the M201 or p12f2 mutations are common in southern central Europe and the Middle East (Semino et al. 1996, 2000; Rosser et al. 2000; Malaspina et al. 2001; Scozzari et al. 2001), and their distribution has been associated with the Neolithic expansion from the Middle East (Semino et al. 1996, 2000; Bosch et al. 2001). It is worth noting that the frequency of group VI chromosomes in the Ethiopian Jews (just one chromosome out of 22) is similar to that reported for the p12f2 chromosomes in the Oromo from Ethiopia (4%) and is considerably lower than the frequency reported for the Amhara of the same region (33%), for whom a strong Middle Eastern genetic component has been reported (Semino et al. 2002). These data, together with those reported elsewhere (Ritte et al. 1993a, 1993b; Hammer et al. 2000) suggest that the Ethiopian Jews acquired their religion without substantial genetic admixture from Middle Eastern peoples and that they can be considered an ethnic group with essentially a continental African genetic composition.”
The study you gave me…
:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182266/
Links to this:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11062480
Y chromosome sequence variation and the history of human populations.
(Khoisan – ancestral p12f2/Alu/10 kb)Abstract
“Binary polymorphisms associated with the non-recombining region of the human Y chromosome (NRY) preserve the paternal genetic legacy of our species that has persisted to the present, permitting inference of human evolution, population affinity and demographic history. We used denaturing high-performance liquid chromatography (DHPLC; ref. 2) to identify 160 of the 166 bi-allelic and 1 tri-allelic site that formed a parsimonious genealogy of 116 haplotypes, several of which display distinct population affinities based on the analysis of 1062 globally representative individuals. A minority of contemporary East Africans and Khoisan represent the descendants of the most ancestral patrilineages of anatomically modern humans that left Africa between 35,000 and 89,000 years ago.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1914832/pdf/ajhg00024-0161.pdf
The Origins of the Lemba “Black Jews” of Southern Africa: Evidence
THIS STUDY OF 436 Individuals tested:
:oops: YAP/p12f2 Alu (-)/8kb : EIGHT kb!!!
Lemba – 12
Jewish – 14
European – 3
Indian – 13
Negroes – 0
Khoisan – 0
:oops: YAP/p12f2 – Alu (-)/10 kb: TEN kb!!!
Lemba – 18
Jewish – 11
European – 39
Indian – 35
Negroid – 38
Khoisan – 29
:oops: YAP/p12f2/ Alu (+)/ 10 kb: TEN kb!!!!!
Lembe – 14
Jewish – 3
European – 1
Indian – 0
Negroid – 144
Khoisan – 61
African Blacks / so-called Negroids have both the YAP/p12f2/Alu(-)/10 kb and the YAP/p12f2/Alu(+)/10 kb.
You are correct that it is rare to find the DELETION in Black Africans that is the 12f2-8kb!!!!!!
the Skeptic
Why don’t you read the WHOLE study, and, determine how the J* got in these Black tribes – the study from which YOU quote says it was due to Arab slave trade J* followed the pattern into Ethiopia from the Arabian Peninsula – see the FULL STUDY, including YOUR quote here – judge from that, who is wrong – HINT: not me:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182266/
“Genetic contributions from the Neolithic and Bantu expansions are observed in East Africa and are demarcated by a reciprocal north-south partitioning of their respective markers. As stated above, Kenya is the northern limit of E3a-M2, whereas J-12f2, described as a marker of the Neolithic expansion (Semino et al. 2000), extends southward only as far as Ethiopia. The geographic distribution of these chromosomes is consistent with the arrangement of the Ethiopian Jews, and the Kenyan and Tanzanian populations in the CA (fig. 4) along the first dimension. These groups lie between the sub-Saharan and North African populations in the plot. The intermediate status of these three East African groups is mirrored in the ML phylogeny (fig. 3) as well, since, in the North African/East African/South African cluster, the Ethiopian Jews, the Tanzanians, and the Kenyans are wedged between the North African (including Oman) and either the Central African (as is the case with the Ethiopian Jews and Tanzanians) or South African groups (see the position of the Kenyans in the ML tree).”
Ancestral Allele 12f2.1 (12f2a) – Haplogroup BT (LONG 10 kb)
Derived Allele 12f2.2 (12f2b) – Haplogroup D2 (Deletion – loss to 8 Kb).
The loss happened on the XX and XY chromosomes during an evolutionary mutation event. It is predominantly a ‘European’ deletion as African Blacks, Orientals, and Native Americans have the LONG 10 Kb ancestral allele.
The Amhara who have the deletion (12f2.2 (b) are not admixed because of the mutation. Best case scenario will have more daughters than sons unless further mutations create another loss to the Y-chromosome.
What do you not understand? It is not semitic. Italians have been tested for it and it can be a risk of infertility in future male children. Maybe you think only White-Semitics are at risk for infertility?
Cool. But this subject is resolved to my satisfaction without depending solely on a particular genetic mutation that may not have anything to with admixture but a sweep in the Haplogroup J*12f2.2 (12f2b). If J*12f2.1 (a) then no deletion on the Y-chromosome.
the Skeptic
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182266/
the Skeptic
Perhaps the article at this link will set you straight.: