A grim “urgent action memorandum” issued today from the office of President Putin to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is ordering a “massive military strike” against Saudi Arabia in the event that the West attacks Syria.
According to Kremlin sources familiar with this extraordinary “war order,” Putin became “enraged” after his early August meeting with Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan who warned that if Russia did not accept the defeat of Syria, Saudi Arabia would unleash Chechen terrorists under their control to cause mass death and chaos during the Winter Olympics scheduled to be held 7-23 February 2014 in Sochi, Russia.
Lebanese newspaper As-Safir confirmed this amazing threat against Russia saying that Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord by stating: “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us.”
Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on an off. “These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role in Syria’s political future.”
London’s The Telegraph News Service further reported today that Saudi Arabia has secretly offered Russia a sweeping deal to control the global oil market and safeguard Russia’s gas contracts, if the Kremlin backs away from the Assad regime in Syria, an offer Putin replied to by saying “Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters” [Putin said referring to footage showing a Jihadist rebel eating the heart and liver of a Syrian soldier HERE], and which Prince Bandar in turn warned that there can be “no escape from the military option” if Russia declines the olive branch.
Critical to note, and as we had previously reported on in our 28 January 2013 report “Obama Plan For World War III Stuns Russia,” the Federal Security Services (FSB) confirmed the validity of the released hacked emails of the British based defence company, Britam Defence that stunningly warned the Obama regime was preparing to unleash a series of attacks against both Syria and Iran in a move Russian intelligence experts warned could very well cause World War III.
According to this FSB report, Britam Defence, one of the largest private mercenary forces in the world, was the target of a “massive hack” of its computer files by an “unknown state sponsored entity” this past January who then released a number of critical emails between its top two executives, founder Philip Doughty and his Business Development Director David Goulding.
The two most concerning emails between Doughty and Goulding, this report says, states that the Obama regime has approved a “false flag” attack in Syria using chemical weapons, and that Britam has been approved to participate in the West’s warn on Iran, and as we can read:
Email 1: Phil, We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington. We’ll have to deliver a CW (chemical weapon) to Homs (Syria), a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion? Kind regards David
Email 2: Phil, Please see attached details of preparatory measures concerning the Iranian issue. Participation of Britam in the operation is confirmed by the Saudis.
With the events now spiraling out of control in Syria, and London’s Independent News Service now reporting that Prince Bandar is “pushing for war,” Russian foreign ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich further warned the West today by stating, “Attempts to bypass the Security Council, once again to create artificial groundless excuses for a military intervention in the region are fraught with new suffering in Syria and catastrophic consequences for other countries of the Middle East and North Africa.”
Heedless of Russian warnings which have fallen on deaf ears, however, British Prime Minister David Cameron this morning recalled the British Parliament to vote on attacking Syria as the Obama regime abruptly cancelled their meeting with Russia scheduled for tomorrow on finding a path to peace for Syria, and the West begins its plans to attack the Syrian nation “within days.”
As Syria itself has warned that should it be attacked by the West there will be “global chaos,” the Western peoples themselves have not been told of the fact that on 17 May 2013, Putin ordered Russian military forces to “immediately move” from Local War to Regional War operational status and to be “fully prepared” to expand to Large-Scale War should either the US or EU enter into the Syrian Civil War, a situation they are still in at this very hour.
With Putin’s previous order, and as we had reported on in our 17 May report “Russia Issues “All-Out War” Alert Over Syria,” and now combined with his new ordering of massive retaliatory strikes against Saudi Arabia, any attack on Syria is viewed by Russia as being an attack on itself.
And as we had previously explained in great detail, the fight over Syria, being led by Saudi Arabia and Qatar and their lap-dog Western allies, has but one single objective: To break Russia’s hold on the European Union natural gas market which a pipeline through Syria would accomplish, and as reported by London’s Financial Times News Service this past June:
“The tiny gas-rich state of Qatar has spent as much as $3bn over the past two years supporting the rebellion in Syria, far exceeding any other government, but is now being nudged aside by Saudi Arabia as the prime source of arms to rebels.
The cost of Qatar’s intervention, its latest push to back an Arab revolt, amounts to a fraction of its international investment portfolio. But its financial support for the revolution that has turned into a vicious civil war dramatically overshadows western backing for the opposition.
Qatar [also] has proposed a gas pipeline from the Gulf to Turkey in a sign the emirate is considering a further expansion of exports from the world’s biggest gasfield after it finishes an ambitious programme to more than double its capacity to produce liquefied natural gas (LNG).”
And in what is, perhaps, the most unimaginable cause to start World War III over Syria was noted by Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman, Aleksandr Lukashevich who said this past week: “We’re getting more new evidence that this criminal act was of a provocative nature,” he stressed. “In particular, there are reports circulating on the Internet, in particular that the materials of the incident and accusations against government troops had been posted for several hours before the so-called attack. Thus, it was a pre-planned action.”
For the West to have so sloppily engineered yet another “false flag” attack to justify a war where they posted the videos of this so-called chemical weapons attack a full day before it was said to occur is the height of arrogance and disdain, but which their sleep-walking citizens, yet again, will fall for as they have done so many times in the past.
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Dear Putin,
Hope you are fine,
We don’t know Syria, we don’t know US, we don’t know Iran etc. we know only one thing if you dear to attack our holy land believe me we will come to you with our infants we will not spare you, we will put you in dark grave. you know us better how we tackle you in Afghanistan, believe me or not this time we will not let you go back to your land …….
My sincere advice don’t even think about attacking our holy land
=))
Screw your holy land. Your people have destroyed ours in Syria by entering areas and destroying ancient churches. They have destroyed our holy land where Christ has walked with syria. They have killed orthodox priest in the name of Allah. Which Allah? The Allah that wanted peace and love? You people are messed up in the head and I hope your holy land is destroyed as your Muslim brothers al-nusra has destroyed Syria!!!!
Dear Arsalan
What Holy land are you talking about? Saudi Arabia? The only Holy land is Makkah & Madinah, not other parts of Saudi Arabia. By the way the people of your so called Holy land are playing role of main villain in this entire Syria crisis, the rebels have been armed by Saudi Arabia and their prince is advocating full war on Syria. Now according to our Holy Prophet & Holy book, can you justify killing of 100,000 syrians inclusing innocent children who have not even matured and understand politics or war, is this Islam? NO IT IS NOT!!! So stop defending Saudi Arabia, I have lived there and am totally aware of their attitude to their fellow non-arab mulsims, they treat us and call us dogs of saudi arabia!!! How would you react if Saudi Police treat you dishonestly and blame you and save saudi, and also slap you on road in front of 1000 of other people, and call you dog of saudi arabia, that is what they do!! so shut up and stop defending Saudi Arabia, as for our beloved Makkah & Madinah, Allah is enough to secure these two cities as he did with Abraha’s army. Period!!
=)) If not because of the help from US, Afghan should have been in control of Russia now.
After reading this article
http://www.freedomhouse.org/sites/default/files/inline_images/Saudi%20Publications%20on%20Hate%20Ideology%20Invade%20American%20Mosques.pdf
it might become clear that Putin could have meant an attack with love bombs on what might be labeled the B.A.H. (Bastion Of Hatred). The article leaves little doubt how people have been converted to cannibals (“liver eaters” and war criminals.
2JanB
> how people have been converted to cannibals (“liver eaters” and war criminals.
How?
Very simple, IMHO from childhood, see fresh video from Syria (cutting heads of Catholics) and take notice of local children behavior (joy!).
All that “religions” must be banned!
http://rushist.com/index.php/articles/1425-sirijskie-boeviki-otrezali-golovu-svyashchenniku-video
(In the execution took part militants from the Russian Caucasus, the old enemy of Russia, they speak in Russian).
@Victor V:
There have been (still are) incidences of Saudi imams being convicted for hate crimes (preaching hatred). The link I posted is collected proof that Wahhabism is a cult of hatred against anyone who is not a Wahhabist. Hence for a Wahhabi it’s his duty to kill infidels and that includes other (non-Wahhabi) Muslims. The nearest comparison with such cultivated hatred is the Hitler era and you know very well what happened.
Regarding religion, the better idea is to consider the science. People are wired for religion, it has been an evolutionary development: in a case of emergency there’s no time to vote on what to do. Hence someone, already having proven to be able to take the proper decisions and fastest, becomes a leader – even in a board of the “wise and elderly”. Humans have a tendency to extrapolate and when extrapolating leadership to the extreme, you arrive at the abstract idea of God. In a family, the ultimate leader in a patriarchy is the father or with infinite regression, the father of all, creator, or a combination of both.
When familiar with Indian history, it will be clear that there the development continued so in Buddhism there are no gods. Yet followers realize the same benefits as followers of moderate Islam, Sufism or Christian mysticism, or any variant of nondualism. That proves any teaching can be both helpful and yet is irrelevant because despite the differences the realizers will arrive at a common ground. Just notice what for instance the Dalai Lama once remarked about Islam. With brain scans it has been shown that certain religious practices and meditation both provide similar benefits to the practitioners. So forbidding religion would be very counterproductive – communism couldn’t destroy religion in Russia nor anywhere else.
A cult of hatred is very different though hence requires action. It will be clear that if such action causes more hatred (like WWI did) it is counterproductive. But I’m sure Putin knows that too, he’s one of the few leaders with a good education, experience and sound knowledge.
So the only way to progress is to consider the issue in a scientific way instead of ignoring evolution and repeating the same mistakes again: Libya has been destroyed by Wahhabi terrorists as well and in Iraq they are continuing a hell for all inhabitants.
2JanB
Good! :-)
Some ideas:
> So the only way to progress is to consider the issue in a scientific way
> communism couldn’t destroy religion in Russia
I lived in USSR since 1963, there were very few believers, it was old people exclusively (and my grandma who lost his husband on WW2 too). In my school in Moscow in 80th and in the Army I did not see ONE believer. In USSR we used only science…
But now a lot of my friends became believers :-)
I am completely sure it is only fashion, all of them know all mistakes in Holly books and know atheism and all laugh at priests.
> The nearest comparison with such cultivated hatred is the Hitler era and you know very well what happened.
Its very important that you pointed. One of Mr’s Putin analysts (Starkov) writes that Hitler was created intentionally by some powerful circles (superpower which leads word).
And that analyst says that modern extremist Islam front was built in the same manner as Hitler party.
Their final aim – WW3, with billions of victims. They really don’t worry about Muslims as 70 years ago they did not worry about Germans and Russians and Europe (conspiracy theory).
I think that Mr Obama could say us who that powerful circles are, very likely they are Americans.
One of my former colleagues was a military analyst whose task was eavesdropping for NATO. He was fluent in Russian but no longer could continue his work because he had fallen in love with Russian culture – which contrary to NATO propaganda was (still is) rather peaceful – even under Stalin, who didn’t ban religion: http://www.marxist.com/religion-soviet-union110506.htm
Humans can be described as toolmaking creatures and recently a link has been found between the development of language and that of making tools: it happens simultaneously. Humans also have something of a territorial tendency which is reflected in “a house with garden for ME”. A social system that fails to address that properly goes bankrupt: people give better care to their “own” garden than to a collective one, UNLESS..
The “unless” regards success in meditation or similar religious practices which weaken the sense of individuality hence uncover the sense of caring for the collective which includes the environment. It’s why plutocrats of all times hated it and tried to pervert teachings. In this respect, Asia still is different from the (NATO oriented) west.
No surprise that Starkov sees the danger of another cult of hatred. There’s also a similarity with the medieval inquisition, where millions were slaughtered, accused of being heretics aka infidels of the Christian faith. Then, the souls were for the church and the loot for the emperor / king. It isn’t different now but it still is possible to prevent WW3 in a peaceful way, by collapsing the petrodollar (Saudi-US alliance). Surely you know that the US empire (in analogy with the ancient Roman empire) now is in the phase of military overstretch to such an extent that it’s even dependent on Chinese electronics:
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1261806
– a possible (lame) excuse why so many innocent civilians have been / are killed by US arms.
@Mr. Victorov,
I find it odd (in a nice sort of way)since I am a typical Capitalist that prefers the Democratic-Republic (though ours is a tad screwed up right now)how often I agree with what you have to say on so many issues. I find you to be an honourable, intelligent, logical, kind and an honest man.
In short a truly wonderful Human Being and the world is a little Saner and Safer because of people like you :-)
Regards and Best Wishes,
Brandon Josiah Li
How can brain scans reveal that religious practices and meditation provide similar benefits?
There’s no concrete way of finding that out. How can you know what brain is an athiest, what brain is a hindist?
As long as religions do not dictate other life, and kill or cause pain, and are transparent as anyone will be, then ok.
Thank you for sharing that link and I enjoyed reading all of your thoughts on the matter in your various posts.
Hi all!
I have an interesting idea to stop that war :-)
1. In Russian criminal code is an Arcticle #353 against warmongers (stayed after WW2):
Chapter 34. Crimes Against Peace and Mankind’s Security
Article 353. Planning, Preparing, Unleashing, or Waging on Aggressive War
1. Planning, preparing, or unleashing an aggressive war
shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of seven to fifteen years.
2. Waging an aggressive war shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of 10 to 20 years.
See http://www.russian-criminal-code.com/PartII/SectionXII/Chapter34.html
2. Mr Putin recently answering Associated Press very fairly said the war without UN permission is – act of aggression (see http://ria.ru/arab_riot/20130904/960597791.html)
3. As a jurist (and a President of the country with such unique Criminal code :-) Mr Putin must immediately initiate criminal case against Mr Obama and arrest him while he is in Russia.
(Also, due to refusals of USA of extradition agreement between USA ans Russia Mr Obama’s case will be hear in Russia :-)
P.S. If Americans will protest – to offer them to show all evidence of Mr Asad’s blame in chemical attacks.
Those in favour? :-)
I think Russia could arrest Obama based on US interference in Libya and military threat to Syria.
As with Viktor Bout, Obama could be extradited to Russia in similar fashion, although it would require considerable military force to accomplish that.
However, Obama is only part of the problem. The former president, G.W. Bush, also violated international and Russian law, as well as former heads of CIA. A Nuremburg trial should be held for all of them together.
In the ideal world, no national leader should escape punishment for the misery and death he had brought to others who did nothing to America or any other country to justify being attacked.
> In the ideal world, no national leader should escape punishment for the misery and death he had brought to others who did nothing to America or any other country to justify being attacked.
Very well!
You must became the next President of you country :-)
I heard yesterday on CNN a Mr Obama’s answers after St Petersburg G20. There was a straight question about UN mandate and his decision about war in Syria.
He said that if they try to get adoption in UN they will get nothing and will not punish Syrian government for the chemical weapon use.
All is simple, as for children :-)
If is prohibited but wanted, it is possible.
Off topic: there is my favorite web-cam, I used to see it on second monitor when fountain is working http://peterhofmuseum.ru/open/
> The U.N. failed to stop … the Afghanistan War
There was not a problem with UN!
Russian troops were INVITED there by legitimate Afghan government (which struggled from USA aid of Pakistan Mujahidins).
See real history there (in Russian, sorry, there interesting about Zbigniew Brzezinski role) http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%84%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0_%281979%E2%80%941989%29
The Root Cause of this problem is “ILLUSION”… we are in illusion that there is no God or we are All God.. This kind of philosophy is like a two side in a 1 coin, meaning SELFISHNESS!!!!!!!!!!
Selfishness results from removing yourself from responsibility or accountability regardless of one’s personal understanding of their relationship with All.
:)) business as usual….
Obviously Obama got a message from God to let Congress decide whether Syria is worth a war or not, and Congress is saying no, because Syria has enough trouble already. Good decision.
The peaceful solution is to allow Syria to settle their own internal problems without interference from foreign nations.
Why don’t we pray for our GOD. [-O< Ask for PEACEFUL SOLUTION not to WAR! If your GOD is Great, why ask Him to intervene this evil Situation. JESUS IS LORD! GOD BLESS EVERYONE! :) [-O<
After 5 years of Obama and his minions, I’d pick the rabble-rousing troublemaker option.
“Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If…”
As mentioned earlier, the story has to be false because a president would not issue a contingent order which places the final decision for war in the hands of subordinates. It’s one of the most important decisions that presidents can make, and they like to have the final choice in the matter.
Name a source and I would consider believing this utter pile of shite. Either your journalists are very gullible or you are a bunch of rabble rousing troublemakers.
Entertaining but dangerous.
peace out guys!!! lets hope for no war at all !!!!
Live and Let Live !!!
let us burn the saudi fuel
Well I just read everyone’s bullshit. Let me just say that humans take life way to seriously and all you people who wish entire nations to be destroyed should just go kill yourselves if you are that unhappy. Don’t kill us, go kill yourselves and do the rest of us a favor. Thanks.
To Mr.: Victor Victorov
Reading your comments, I can’t avoid not replying back
You seem rational enough to rationalize things around you. What I am surprised about:
– You say you have read about religions and you found similarity between Christianity and Islam. I am telling you, we as muslim beleivers, we beleive in all religions starting from Ibrahim till Mohamed (Islam). and even before that Adam & Eve and how their offsprings were deviated from the truth, so profits kept sending to people. So we do beleive in Judaism, we do beleivve in Christianity and we do beleive in all the profits, because we know why they were sent, and why religions were kept sending to people.
If you say when you see agression around the world, you stop beleiving in God anymore. Of course you only say this because you don’t understand why myseries are found on earth. There was a whole 30 day program in Arabic just expalining “why” by an excellent guy called “Moez Massoud”. I am sure you can reach him in social media, he is very fluent in English and quite known. I wish I can go to details, but I am sure this is not the correct media for such discussion.
Finally, you say that religions were invented to releif people. Do you think, billions and billions of followers, do stick to their religions, just because they follow what their parents told them!!!! Do you think, wrong beleives would last for centuries!! If we haven’t seen and touched the edvidences ourselves, we would have lost faith long ago. Religions wouldn’t have lasted!
Also one final point, there is no contradiction whatsoever between modern science and Islam. In fact, most of the latest latest discoveries by Nasa and by science, are all mentioned and stated in the Qoran! We have Dr. Zaghloul Al Naggar who revealed all the latest discoveries, and how they were mentioned in the Qoran centuries and centuries ago, without even having a space vehicle!
2Just Me
Very interesting, I very respect you and your point of view.
> I wish I can go to details, but I am sure this is not the correct media for such discussion.
Yes.
> If you say when you see agression around the world, you stop beleiving in God anymore
Not only wars, when I see young children with cancer too.
Or in such moments, see http://youtu.be/nIGFOW1qyEc
Or I saw a lot of the same moments in aviation (and on roads) and arrived at a conclusion that all that “Gods” are not so kind (if exist at all).
They are at least indifferent to people. In Russia during WW2 in 1941-1945 were killed by Germans about 25 million (!!!) soviet people, were destroyed 1710 towns and 70 000 villages.
Where was that “God” (and all that German planes and ships and tanks were marked with white … Christian cross!!!)?!
In Hiroshima and Nagasaki crazy USA killed by 2 atom bombs about 200 000 people simultaneously, in one day, where was that “God”?!
In Arab wars were killed many people too (and what will be in the nearest future).
I understand only that the only reason for all wars is longing desire of reach people to became more reach (interesting, that usually all warmongers are well known one to another, as for example Obama and Kaddafy, who had talks, see http://www.snob.ru/i/indoc/user_16252/00733fd586370b91b4eb16f53de9c716.jpg).
Simple people (usually unknown one to another) have no reasons to kill one another.
> There was a whole 30 day program in Arabic just expalining “why” by an excellent guy called “Moez Massoud”
Thanks, I will try. But in turn please read 2-3 different good (well known) atheistic books. In Soviet Union I read a lot of them but I don’t know them in Arabic or in English (making a zombie from simple people is the main goal of reach).
But I think that in Internet you can find all. In such books real scientists described a lot of errors and mistakes in all that “Holly books”).
With great respect to you, and all religious feeling (only of poor people :-),
your Victor Victorov
what the hell.. . may be all nations will be involve by means of alliances or groups of nations in this world which to threat and triggered the beginning of world war III.. . and many innocent people will going to die.. . a new generation will probably wash out to the next next generation.. . defense.. .
Lets see…The Russians have a decaying navy, outdated airforce, and a lack luster military. Giver that your special forces are excellent.
If Putin was to attack, even China would not defend Russia.
Russia needs a new leadership with an aspect on growth, as the people should expect more and actually get more.
I hope it doesn’t come to war, but if it does, we will have more ally’s and better weapons that will enable us to squash any size of bug.
I still hope all is talk though!!!!
“But to do this we must at first made our life on Earth like in 5 stars hotels, for all people”
Absolutely correct and very possible to do, because God is a capitalist and created all: Earth=land; Man=labor; Crops=capital.
It takes a change of attitude in people and their governments, not by socialism but by desire and hard work.
As each person improves his own life, that helps others improve theirs. For example, when I had a fence built around my home, neighbors began building fences around theirs. When I remodeled my home, neighbors began remodeling theirs. My home is worth more money now, and so are the homes of my neighbors, and we are all better off now because each worked hard to improve his own standard of living.
Self-improvement is contagious, like a virus, so as each person works hard to better their lives, others will also. Everything doesn’t have to be free for this to happen. But if you want free food, plant fruit trees and gardens, and raise chickens – that is pure capitalism and more fun than waiting for the decision of a government clerk about whether to feed you and if so, how much food you may receive.
2 Mr Zharkov
> It takes a change of attitude in people and their governments, not by socialism but by desire and hard work.
You are right! All depends on people and desire and hard work.
Concerning your good example with houses.
But what must be done if your neighbor is a criminal? Who only sacks neighbors and all country (and has second home abroad and bribed police and judges)? I mean modern Russian tycoons (and Chechen terrorists).
And what can guaranty that another neighbor in future will not turn to a criminal or a tycoon (what is almost the same)?
I believe that the best of the best guaranty is socialism. And the future belongs to socialism :-)
Here in Russia we bring unique experience – we tried socialism and then capitalism in only 30 years – the first was much better for simple people, scientists, engineers, teachers etc. Socialism built, but wild capitalism destroyed our great country.
By the way. Many people from West accuse Mr Putin. But on the contrary I think that he is very good executive who honestly is trying to implement capitalism in Russia (already 15 years without great success). But IMHO he himself every day see all disadvantages of this out of date social system (and all reasons of all his failures are not in him, but in depraved system).
P.S. Why capitalism is so successful in USA and some other countries? I think only because they saw Soviet success and had to adopt a lot from that model (and of course from weak countries e.g. Irac which has oil and other raw materials).
American revolution = 1778
Russian revolution = 1917
It’s not obvious that capitalist success in America was a result of adopting the Soviet model. Capitalism began in America before Marx was born, and most of the success of capitalism occurred before 1913.
Modern American government has adopted much of the Soviet model, but then capitalism has become less successful since that adoption, so that today, the government is feeding 50 million Americans that had fed themselves in earlier times.
USSR, Cuba, China, Zimbabwe – no one good example of socialist country exists so we must use only capitalism.
Ok, imagine we are in 1900th, airplane of brothers Wilbur Wright and Orville Wright crashed, airplanes of other inventors crashed too – is it a right decision to stop attempts to build a safe airplane? No, people must try and try.
The same here – mankind must try and try to build a better and peaceful world, it is possible — a world where people and nature come before profits – that’s real socialism :))
> the government is feeding 50 million Americans that had fed themselves in earlier times
Its a very important observation. As I could see a lot of soviet people did exactly the same. May be it was one of the reasons of our socialism failure.
(I think that it was current task, not a critical problem, because for example in the Soviet Army were not lazy persons because our commanders gave us a lot of air-raid drills :-)
Ok, scientists have a problem, will be a solution :p
All disadvantages of capitalism are very well described since Marx, this disadvantages are tremendous (and can bee seen in EVERY poor country where capitalism does not work too, or inside every war in the world as in Syria).
Socialism showed the greatest progress in 50th-60th and about half of the Earth population lived in socialist countries.
I call to continue searches. (And due to convergence theory may be a right ideas will born in capitalist countries, it does not matter, we are all people of planet the Earth and it is the most important then all that “-ism’s” :) )
Thank you very much for very interesting discussion.
(I have to work, thanks all God’s for my own computer company in Moscow :)
Here you can find me (my blog http://maxpark.com/user/1534118058 )
Do you have a blog?
I have no blog now, but when I have time, I will try to get one started.
2Dimitri
> Don’t waste your time explaining muslims about GOD
Hm.. My attitude for this “Gods” is more complex then complete denial (and I spent a lot of time studying all main religions, started from Russian Orthodox church, then Islam and Buddhism).
I found that doctrine of immortal soul in Christianity (and then in Islam) is completely the same as it was offered by great philosopher Plato.
But he did it more earlier in … 500 years B.C.!
And all that we read in Bible and Quran was adopted (or stolen) from him (I mean main ideas about immortal soul and Nature, not concrete parables). The Hebrews are the the Hebrews :-)
But Plato was a philosopher and he summarized all knowledge of ancient science, but after Plato science developed and modern philosophers summarized their levels of science and made a lot of new systems which explain the world and nature more precisely.
But all main religions stayed on the level of Plato (dogmatism). (And they even tried to prove that the Earth was built only 6000 years ago, that we all are from 2 parents etc – all that was contradicted by science).
But I think that in the field of psychology our main religions still are unbeaten – believers fill themselves more calm, they believe that Almighty God is their close friend and even loving father and he will save them and all negative in their lives they explain by only their own sins (rather then for example by activity of reach people who every day are looking for new slaves – by credits, leasehold, wars at least etc).
Its like drag (opium). And it would be cruel to take away it from them …
I think that interesting idea is Bahaism (all religions in one :-) and Tolstoyism (believe in God, but without any intermediaries).
As for me when I see a beautiful sunset, or night sky with mysterious stars, or solve scientific problem – I believe in God too, but my God is “Something”, puzzle that we must investigate.
But to do this we must at first made our life on Earth like in 5 stars hotels, for all people, its real, in cosmos we could find free energy, free minerals, free territories – there’s enough thunder weed here for a whole tea-party :-)
To – Victor Victorov
Don’t waste your time explaining muslims about GOD. They are brainwashed by so the called Quran and will not agree with you because of any reason. They need few centuries to understand the truth and then, maybe they will understand the so called god is imaginary.
It is time to go after the REAL terrorists.
Why cant we all get along and be friends?
2Jhay
> Why cant we all get along and be friends?
Join Communist Party, undoubtedly ;-))))
http://www.cpusa.org/
and we support afgans , palistaine , kashmiri and all other freedom fighter who r fighting against invaders
shane they only represent 1% minority backed by suadi oil and us arms…. 99% muslims r peaceful … v beleive in quran and quran says…. one who killed one humam he killid whole human kind…. so ruthless killers of civilian people across the world have nothing to do with islam…
victor victorov u propogate communism…. let me tell u our national poet n philospher… Dr muhammad iqbal said….. communism+GOD= islam…. means islam beleive in economic justice between human beings to fulfill physical needs of humans but at the same time islam ephasize on GOD’S existance to fullfill spirtual needs of human beings…. communisms is against interest based economic system same as islam is agaist interest and promote charity to ensure circulation of wealth…. u need to study books on islamic economic system
2tajamal
> communism+GOD= islam
> islam ephasize on GOD’S existance to fullfill spirtual needs of human beings…
Communists believe that religion is opium (narcotic drug) for people. Its useless for healthy people (but is need for ill).
Science and Nature and good Culture can fulfill all spiritual needs of modern human beings, not fairy tales of wild ancient people (not bad fairy tales).
> u need to study books on islamic economic system
All economic system where is allowed to be reach and to exploit other people (what we can see there – reach sheikhs with billions of USA dollars in reach cars and poor nomads and crowds on meetings) – is worse then Soviet economic system with full absence of any useless kings and oligarchs.
I think that founders of Christianity and Islam would agree with me :-) but I am sure that modern clericals crucified them, because they are too reach.
Виктор, Вы отождествляете религию и Бога. А это не одно и тоже. Религия действительно опиум для народа, которым окуривают паству с целью получить прежде всего экономические выгоды. Это известно давным-давно. А вот в Бога Вы тоже верите, несмотря на то, что отрицаете. Вы чувствуете что он присутствует в Вашей жизни, но невроз атеиста провоцирует на его отрицание, несмотря на то что понятие о нем у Вас есть.
Расскажу одну притчу. Молитца человек в церкви. К нему подходит другой и говорит – “Ты не правильно молишься”. Потом еще один. В конце-концов выгнали человека из церкви за то, что не правильно молитца. И вот идет человек с опущенной головой, бормочет – “За что?”
И тут голос свыше – “Что с тобой?”.
Человек – “Да вот, в церковь не пускают”.
– “Всё правильно, они меня тоже туда не пускают”.
2Андрей
>Религия действительно опиум для народа, которым окуривают паству с целью получить прежде всего экономические выгоды. Это известно давным-давно.
+100!
> Виктор, Вы отождествляете религию и Бога.
Я?! Как раз именно это я и пытаюсь донести до заблудших арабов, которым сочувствую, чтобы те не порасшибали себе лбы на своих намазах или еще хуже не поубивали друг друга по идиотскому критерию “сунит-шиит”.
> А вот в Бога Вы тоже верите, несмотря на то, что отрицаете.
Я отрицаю форму (“Бог” – как он подается религиями 2-х тысячелетней давности заморозки), ну а содержание (кто-то же сотворил нам с Вами Солнце, Землю, океаны, атомы и тд и тп, включая бедных арабов с персами, ну и нас не очень счастливых для них) как-то просто неудобно такое отрицать :-)
В СССР “ЭТО” называли “Природой” и усиленно познавали. И никому от этого плохо не было, кроме шаманов-жуликов.
islam is not just another relegion…. the people who r against islam r victum of western media’s propoganda against islam and they never ever studied quran or any authentic book on islam…. read your self and then comment…. aaa sleeping man u need to consult authentic books on islam
v love two holy cites makkah and madina but suadi govt should be punished bcz of its crimes against humanity and specially against muslims…. suadi govt is not holy govt its just pupit of usa so it should be destroyed by russia or whtaever else…. same as bashar ul asad should be punished for killing more than one lakh people
I m from pakistan…. i have studied most of comments above….. some ppl r abusing ALLAH ALLMIGHTY… and in response some muslims respond by abusing them…. well AHMED… i would like to remind u a verse from quran ” dont abuse others( and their GOD) even if they abuse your ALLAH….. and talk to people with politess…. AHMED..be carefull our behaviour of anger , wrath or agression give message to non-muslims that islam teach this to us….so be calm even if abuse us
Tajmal, for youe information 99% of the gloal most ruthless terrorosts represent Islamic people who have conviced us they are utter brutal and uncivilised.
Al -Salam Alikuome
I wont to say if he wont a war we will stand agenst him we will but our life for Islamic flag . Alkhatab will return back again Allah with us .
Allah Akbar . Allah Akbar . Allah Akbar .
Mr. Victorov:
Modern Russia has world markets and internet, and many small Russian businesses selling over the internet.
Old USSR had Cuba, North Korea as customers – poor markets for a big country like USSR. Sure, USA discriminated against USSR, but that’s not the only reason why USSR had limited markets.
Chinese will tell you that today’s capitalist China is far better than Mao’s Communist China.
Modern, capitalist Russia will be better too, but maybe not so quickly as China?
It’s for Russian citizens to make capitalism work the same as China. Capitalism works to make everyone better off everywhere it has been tried.
Khruschev saw this for himself in 1950’s when he visited America and was astonished at the huge variety in our supermarkets, and the obvious wealth of the average American, so Russians can blame him for what happened in 1990’s, because it took that long for the party to be convinced he was right.
Yeltsin and Gorbachev did what Khruschev wanted to do but could not do in that era.
Modern capitalist Russia offers huge, world-class opportunity to become super-rich for average citizens, a better opportunity than America offers today. Socialist American government makes it very difficult to become rich today in America. Even so, some still make big money in America.
Old USSR had nobody getting rich except very few state and party workers.
Old USSR abandoned factories are a big opportunity for a smart Russian businessman who knows how to get products into world markets.
Russia’s abandoned factories and buildings are just really big opportunities. All it takes is a bit of creativity, some money, and ideas of what things to make and sell. Russia offers more opportunities than almost any other nation on earth today.
2 Mr Zharkov
Sorry, but you are wrong :((
> Yeltsin and Gorbachev did what Khruschev wanted to do
Khruschev was real communist and helped Cuba and Vietnam and Korea to build Socialism in which he believed.
In 50th Russia without anybodies help restored after WW2 (as Germany, France, Poland etc did too) and could not offer full supermarkets as USA (the only country which benefited from WW2).
> Modern capitalist Russia offers huge, world-class opportunity to become super-rich for average citizens
> Old USSR had nobody getting rich except very few state and party workers
This is your the BIGGEST mistake (and a point where I agree with my Muslims and Christians friends).
Remember! To be reach you will need about 100-200 poor man who will work on you. In poor countries – about 1000-2000.
More, if you want to make a reach country it will suck resources from a lot of poor countries (colonies etc).
Impossible to be reach alone.
(And you will be always under their and different gangsters pressure and your life will not be happy, I saw a lot of reach people).
But we live in the Earth, our average 80-85 years, not only to eat and rest. The main goal of our lives I believe (I am a believer :-) is self-development and development of mankind.
Nor of us will take our money to grave. Money does not matter for real people (heroes etc). In Soviet Union we all have enough money for such live (see photos) and all where happy and had no conflicts, and we could to answer to any enemy in the World.
See real Soviet Union, the best model for all mankind (and its first attempt):
http://fishki.net/14200-alternativnyj-vzgljad-na-zhizn-v-sssr-36-foto–tekst.html?from=hot
http://fishki.net/20050-rozhdennye-v-sssr-63-foto.html?from=hot
http://fishki.net/15524-odin-den-v-sssr-4-20-foto.html?from=hot
Cuba’s communism didn’t work – Cuba always needed financial help from USSR, Venezuela, etc., and now Cuba offers capitalism to farmers in order to keep them interested in farming.
China’s communism didn’t work – Almost as soon as Mao died, China began liberalizing and is now fully capitalist so that even the government says “To be rich is glorious”. China is correct. Rich is glorious compared with poverty under socialism.
Socialism has other examples of national collapse, such as Zimbabwe, where printing money was the final breath of a dying socialist state.
Capitalism doesn’t require that people be poor, it only requires people willing to work to improve themselves, and not to make government officials rich.
Poor people need jobs that make society better off, and that is something government jobs can’t do, because government is a parasite on society. Adding more parasites to the host does not make the host better off. Eventually the host dies from too many parasites trying to live on it.
Well seriously guys I read all the posts. Thing is that first I will direct my conversation to muslim guys who posted here. Its our duty resposibility to love and care for nin muslims. Its never a way start throwing shits. At the end they will disrespect your religion and they will disrespect ur ALLAH. So, you urself causing this. If they have doubt, queations. Its our responsibilty to guide the. Answer them. And what ever happening yo muslim people on earth is because of there deeds. Search your surrounding and see who truly believes ALLAH & MUHAMMAD PBUH. We are doing evry thing from which we are forbidden. So eventuAlly this will happen. Faith is a good thing. Emaan is good thing. But you wont win wars just by saying SUBHAN ALLAH & ALLAH AKBAR if on the back hands you domt even care about the obligations and restrictions put by ISLAM on you. ALLAH SWT is feeling less. If you dont care he will vanish you and bring other people upon u who will follow his obligations. I am sorry but its our own deeds which we are paying. I said belief is. good thing. These non muslim people will nver stop. Because we are not doing our job. It is evry muslim responsibilty to guide them, love them, respect them. irrespect of there doing. They dont know thats y they do like this. Guide them, teach them. but how can u guide them and teach themif u urself dont even care a out islam. you use islam where its going in ur right and turn ur back when it is not going in ur right. no pain no gain. u can never get anything by doing nothing. ALLAH dint do unfair decisions. So, doing nothing and hoping to defeat non muslims is ur wish and it will stay as wish. If yiu dont care about ALLAH, simply ALLAH will nt care about you. ISLAM is a religion of peace, and by such extreme commnts you guys make the non muslim to go away without listening and knowing the truth. And all the situation running in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria , Pakistan all muslim countries under such conditios is just because of there own deeds thats what i know. MAY ALLAH GUIDE US ALL. But no gain without pain.
2 Mr Zharkov (with USA flag ;-)
> Russians dream of long lines at the supermarket?
Long lines (in 80th, when Herbs occupied our gov) could be destroyed by simple price increase in 24 hours (if you know economics:-) When was Stalin alive we had not any lines and have in shops even caviar (but at a high price, but it was economic).
Tiny apartments with 2 families living together?
> in 60th in spite of consequences of great war we build a lot of buildings (“Khrushchev buildings”) and closed the theme of 2 families in one flat (that is much better then on the street, isn’t it?).
New USSR to replace old USSR?
> Its a dialectics of development, my friend ;-)
Have you heard about philosophy laws?
No corruption in old USSR? No bribes to officials?
Ha!
> In comparison with modern Russia and West it was a jokes :-)
> Maybe some love the state so much they will give up freedom in exchange for a tiny pension, but I think most Russians like freedom as much as Americans.
In USSR we have REAL freedom, instead of deception of reach Herbs with “democracy” (only for reach).
> 90% of Russians may prefer to remember the past with fond memories rather than face the unknown future, but clocks cannot run backwards and history cannot run backwards, so there is no turning back.
“unknown future” — very good words for any capitalism system. We all are fed up of this “unknown future” and dream about our honest and science-based future.
Russians dream of long lines at the supermarket?
Tiny apartments with 2 families living together?
New USSR to replace old USSR?
No corruption in old USSR? No bribes to officials?
Ha!
Maybe some love the state so much they will give up freedom in exchange for a tiny pension, but I think most Russians like freedom as much as Americans.
90% of Russians may prefer to remember the past with fond memories rather than face the unknown future, but clocks cannot run backwards and history cannot run backwards, so there is no turning back.
2 Mr Zharkov
Life in Soviet Union (how crazy we were when changed it all on Putin’s oil oligarchs and crazy ideas of taking part in religious conflicts)
http://fishki.net/14200-alternativnyj-vzgljad-na-zhizn-v-sssr-36-foto–tekst.html?from=hot
http://fishki.net/20050-rozhdennye-v-sssr-63-foto.html?from=hot
http://fishki.net/15524-odin-den-v-sssr-4-20-foto.html?from=hot
Modern Russia
http://swalker.org/zavodi/
I missed a little, will improve now.
2 Mr Brandon Li
> Mr. Victorov I’m sure that you are not a fan of Massoud and don’t look at him the same way that we do and I mean NO disrespect to you Sir nor any other Russian Citizen. We have taken the time to try and hear the USSR’s side of the story also.
Ok, I knew the Ahmad Shah Massoud through only 2-3 respectful people in Russia who talked with him many times. (In 1982 this CIA official agent and very talented Tajik man himself offered Soviet Union peace in exchange for his election as a PM in Kabul, then he was killed by Osama Ben Laden peoples who afraid he will kill them as CIA agent, before that killing he released one of his bodigards – former Russian soldier who was taken prisoner and took Islam, he is alive, and told a lot of his boss).
Soviet Union point of view is that all “Russian Tajiks” lived in USSR much more reacher then in Afghanistan and Russia could help people of Afghanistan too (as far back as Lenin helped Afghanistan against G.Britain).
But terms of the treaty could be only to build socialism (with all science, industry, medicine, culture etc). But it meant that reach people will lose ALL…
On this basis USA (the rich in USA, I have heard almost all of them Hebrews and control all “Presidents”) found a lot of allies in Afghanistan and Pakistan, gave them armament and war begun.
And if in USSR in Tajikistan the same resistance (of reach minority) was stopped in 3-4 years (because simple people only benefited) in Afganistan Russia could not win (the main reason was treason of Gorbachev and his gang who started sabotage in industry).
Its a point of view of the first progressive state in the world – USSR :-)
Our Soviet members of the government all were from simple people, they all were poor from point of view of Western people and we have not corruption. All that means that they were guided only by interest of simple people (before Gorbachev’s betrayal of course).
But now 90% of Russia dream of socialism return and I am sure we got in in 10-20 years (and any crazy war – for stupid “Religions” with all that complete idiots “with their shoes problems :-)” in all of them – only accelerate this process, which could be evolutionary instead).
I missed a little, will improve now.
2 Mr Brandon Li
> Mr. Victorov I’m sure that you are not a fan of Massoud and don’t look at him the same way that we do and I mean NO disrespect to you Sir nor any other Russian Citizen. We have taken the time to try and hear the USSR’s side of the story also.
Ok, I know the Ahmad Shah Massoud through only 2-3 respectful people in Russia who talked with him many times. (In 1982 this CIA official agent and very talented Tajik man himself offered Soviet Union peace in exchange for his election a PM in Kabul, then he was killed by Osama Ben Laden peoples who afraid he will kill them, before that killing he released one of his bodigards – former Russian soldier who was ).
Soviet Union point of view is that “Russsin Tajiks” lived more reach then in Afganistan and Russia could help people of Afganistan too (as far back as Lenin wrought ).
X( it’s bad action we defeat Russian army if he enter in kingdom of Saudi Arabia and war it to be change between Islam and other religious
Hi,
I have been reading all your posts out of interest as it seems the world is once again preparing to shape itself through warfare globally.
These are troubling and unfortunate times. Being Muslim I would simply like to point out that, it doesn’t matter if Russia or any other country threatened Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is home to 2 of most important cities in the Muslim world, Namely Makkah and Medina. Attacking Saudi Arabia will spark a wild fire across the Muslim world. It is not like Syria or Iraq. These 2 cities are inherently significant to the Muslim belief system and even the worst of Muslims cannot bear to have these two cities threatened. Every Muslim child, adult, Woman, Man, Civilian and Military will take up arms. I believe Saudi Arabia was hoping Russia knowing that would back off but Russia in itself is a proud nation. I don’t think the Saudis expected that. It was irresponsible of Saudis to make threats. Because the danger the world would now face is in fact the threat of another world war.
I pray the people of Syria finds peace, I pray that the Muslim world recovers its identity as a Muslim people and return to the religion that is largely misunderstood. I pray that everyone establish common grounds and work itself from there to find peaceful solutions. And if war ever broke out, I pray the Muslims be granted victory.
Please note that in the history of the world in the last 1400 hundred years, no non-Muslim has ever ventured to attack these two cities. Muslims themselves have attacked them but not non-Muslims. The super powers in every age in the last 14 centuries were well aware of the dangers that can bring about even within their own ranks.
Attacking the two cities would be a mistake not just by Russia but any country that decided to do so.
Please Russia or any country out there, stay away from these two cities, it will only add to the misery. :(
2DHK
> Please Russia or any country out there, stay away from these two cities, it will only add to the misery. :(
I wrote here a lot about right (IMHO) attitude for all religious prejudices, but note that I am Russian and was born in Soviet Union were all religions were banned, but in the heart of Kremlin and Moscow survived all old churches. More, now a lot of mosques and churches are building, see the biggest in Chechen Republic.
It means that Russia respect every religion and never will bomb any sacred place of any of them.
(In 1930th Hebrews Trotskyists tried to demolish our churches but soon Mr Stalin killed all of them, by the way he studied in theological seminary before that).
America attacked afganistan because it suports taliban
and al queda why they are quit on saudi arabia which controls chechen terroist
lol @ Liver eaters
Saudi involved in terrorism of below country and also funding all terrorist Group
Bahrain
Libya
Egypt
Syria
hello i am using it only today and it is my first day and i have already nice experiance u can also talk to me in russian man
can somebody tell me that why USA and israel involves in the affairs of every poor country?why?
Syria is a national interest to Russia the same Israel and Saudi is to the US
The reaction of Putin is understandable
You hit my interest I hit yours
Irael and Saudi Arabia are not interested to USA they want money as USA is a rich for e.g dogs want meat from dirty butcher do you understand andy Irael and Saudi arabia are dogs and USA is dirty butcher .Saudi Arabia is not a dog its govt is bitch
Well Waleed, I suppose then that Pakistan as well is a dog based on your analogy
Well boss u might b rite bt this dog has biten usa at its ass…have u seen BBC documentary(secrete Pakistan)last time v helped u to defeat RSSA bt now u messed with the wrong people.nw can u feel the heat of Afghan war…dont mess with us…
You idiot it is all by design, America has turned on her own people as well. Perpetual war is seen as necessary due to our Military Industrial Complex, it has never been about winning, Nobody is Afraid of Pakistan except India in regards to Kashmir.
oh yes read adil,s link and you will understand of what type of pakistan is dog
eric dear sleepy if your america is so strong then why its ass was kicked by ussr(russia) in waitnam war
If the Saudis are attacked, Oil wii go to $500. Meaning earth will spin the other way round.
I’ve never read so much crap in my life. I’m amazed that anyone actually believes that this article was written in a serious tone. Russia would last 2 mins against Americas might and America would protect Saudi at all cost. Done worry people it will never happen.
thats exactly what Hitler thought before attacking USSR
Its about time. Russia should have attack those Saudi assholes many years ago. Those pricks are the reason for many wars happening from pakistan to all the way to Africa. Not to mention their barbaric islamic rituals. FTW Russia !!
Allah is a HUGE pig =)) =))
ALLAH is great as ALLAH created with the clot. And most of the people believe in ALLAH. It is only you who don,t believe .And you have to feel shame on your wordings that you said you mother fucker son of bitch although your mother may be good human being but you are real pig or may be worst son of eblees
Your rudeness and willingness to sink to swearing and wishing the worst on everyone is just making Islam and Muslims look worse. You should know that you are supposed to be a good example. Its people like you that turn others away from Islam.
ALLAH IS A WORTHLESS PIG RAPER
wipe the saudi from world map. key to the world muslim terrorism..
Pig!!
You are a morally bankrupt, cruel, vile, reprhensible excuse for a human being.
By making that insult behind the safety and security of your keyboard you just insulted a large amount of good, peaceful Muslims (and in Egypt some of their Coptic Christian friends as well as these sort of comments P!SS them off also) that we in the West refer to as Liberal Muslims.
I’m sure that you neither know nor care about the fact that Liberal Muslims not only stood by their Christian friends in Egypt but also acted as human shields to protect them from members of Radical Islam.
Also GENIUS you just further fueled the flames that keep Radical Islam going and feed the Unholy Fires of Hatred in this world.
Pig!! I see a Darwin Award in your future…….
With All Disrespect Intended,
Sincerely,
Brandon Li – A part Catholic, part Southern Baptist Christian (Yes I know what a hell of a combination)
You know what’s the difference between us beleivers and you non-beleivers? We really do sympathize with you because you are ignorant….
they need a war bcoz there is a new dicovered oil somewhere in the ocean between israel and lebanon :)
for your kind information there is no ocean between israel and labnon there is sea and the war is because of interuption of USA in every situation X(
For how long do we have to tolerate this crap from the Americans , your so called proof that the Syrian government has used chemical weapons ion it own people is just that A JOKE.
why don’t you just come out and say why you’re so involved in other countries affaires . This chemical thing is just not working any more . Don’t treet us as if we’re all Americans.
But now it will be the end of american power now it will be as a sardine in the sea and Russia will be shark 8-|
First, Paul, not all Americans are as stupid as you would think we are, I certainly do not wish to intervene in Syria, it is political just as our intervention in Egypt, and such actions have bit us in the ass in the past, let us not forget that it was the USA that got Saddam to power. The fact is that until something replaces the US Dollar as a benchmark currency, nothing will stop the States for doing what they want. We have the unique ability to print money and tax our citizens by deflating the purchasing power of the dollars in our pockets. I am an American and I hate what has happened to this nation, as a people we are bombarded by corporate media guiding the opinions of the masses of people that are too lazy to do any independent research. Most of us are too busy working 2-3 jobs so we can buy rubbish that we don’t even have time to enjoy, let alone need. The american dream has turned into a demented nightmare.
Now Waleed, get over yourself America will never be Russia’s shark bait, nor will your mighty religious fundamentals, America’s Demise will be by her own hand.
Eric James
…by her own hand. Well said. Immigrants fought to build America, seems we are fighting to lose it too. Sad.
> Most of us are too busy working 2-3 jobs so we can buy rubbish that we don’t even have time to enjoy, let alone need
The same we in Russia (simple people have a lot in common :) , we must distinguish simple people and people, in power and with big money. Only the last are interested in wars.
You got the point man. :-bd
That’s everything in a nutshell. Well summarized and perfectly said.
Do you really expect the congenital LIARS running & ruining the defunct USA to tell the Truth and say THEY are the root cause of using poison gas to kill Syrian children???
Not in this lifetime, friend. The thug-liars in Cesspool, DC, can’t tell Truth to save their stinking lives. That’s good. We don’t want these monsters alive.
WANTED: DEAD — no questions asked
If USA thinks of itself as a global pirate… what’s wrong with Putin if he does the same… tit for tat…
Anderson Cooper and CNN have been caught staging fake news about Syria to justify military intervention.
http://intellihub.com/2013/08/29/cnn-correspondent-syria-exposed-actor-caught-multiple-lies/
SPLC and their bogus enemies list:
http://sorosfiles.com/soros/2012/05/the-soros-supported-southern-poverty-law-center-and-its-connection-to-moscow-funded-russia-today.html
do you think that i don,t read books of science and nature and if you say . we have no nead to learn these books because all information of the world is present in Quran thats why it is said that Quran is the best and last book.And if you think that we muslims have no extra time to learn other books then you are wrong i know four languages and i dont know how old are you and in which class do read but i am sixteen and i read 10 class and i have ability to talk to you i know russian english urdu and punjabi and what do you know only and only your english.So,see before you leap dear sleepy.Muslims should not be destroyed you americans should be destroyed
Dear waleed sura,
> i am sixteen
I am 50 and my advice – If you wish a piece of good fortune not only for yourself but all your respectful nation read pls atheistic literature.
All this Bibles, Qurans etc – are muck for mugs.
There are no any evidence that all about that “gods” is true.
Yes, it all was written by geniuses and in time when people were wild, but now we should better use Science.
Only nations who did that will survive – I mean that power of nation determines by level of science, not by amount of religious fanatics (you can see it by example of USA with the most powerful science, where almost all former Soviet scientists have to work for bread).
And after that I recommend to investigate the Soviet Union experience, it was a first attempt of mankind to build just social system and it could be successful, but did not due constantly hostile environment of reach people who afraid to lost power and money and possibility to exploit labour.
I wish you luck! ;-)
Hmm. To believe that people was wild then is a foolish mistake ( not calling you foolish thou) Einstein recommended fary tails to the children and Photios I of Constantinople said the following “It has the following not ungraceful epigram: ‘Draw your knowledge of the past from me and read the ancient tales of learned lore. Look neither at the page of Homer, nor of elegy, nor tragic muse, nor epic strain. Seek not the vaunted verse of the cycle; but look in me and you will find in me all that the world contains” Regarding Bibliotheca. Now it’s quite amazing that in the last 6 months China-Japan, the Corean peninsula and Argentina-Great Brittan has scrambled for war. And now Syria, Assad Sr did something quite difficult ( no he was not an angel in any sense) but nevertheless brought stability in a country who was divided. He manage to stabilise a country with Christians, Muslims ( both Sunni and Shia’s) and launch a war agaist Isreal. Very few persons has manage something like that. Regarding Assad Jr well my guess is that someone who wants desperately a war is trying to topple a freshman. And at the same time getting the control of pipelines to Europe. However my point is in the last 6 months it’s been conflicts between to many old friends and it’s just a lose/lose situation for most. When will we learn the game and not playing any more?
2Bob maat
> To believe that people was wild then is a foolish mistake
It depends on what you mean is “wild people” :-)
I am a scientist and wrote above that power of nation depends on the level of its science (then industry, culture etc).
Thereby from my point of view people with low level of science are wild and on the other part – with high level of science – not wild.
For instance all that Arabs now have not powerful science – therefore they are wild (but earlier they had cutting-edge science, in 1000th, we use since that times Arabic numerals, “sin”, “cos” etc, then smth happened with their good science).
On the other hand – USA, Western Europe – they have now cutting-edge science – they are not wild (Russia HAD science and leaved that club recently).
There is no doubt that “no-wild” nations easily can win in any war against “wild” nations (if they want of course not only to spend they money).
Now, concerning ancient people (times of Homer and Bible etc) – they did not know even electricity, believed that the Earth is plate and thunder is a cry of Zeus, and used slaves which where goods!
They were much more wild then modern Africans and Arabs taken together (with modern Russia too).
But now all that fans of different Santa Clauses demand we all began to believe in fairy tales of wild people (with great amount of mistakes and errors)!
Ok, but why not to believe in Zeus?
Modern scientists mostly believe in “Something” and tries to investigate Nature then to lose time on different crazy ideas of wild people.
Modern medicine can say you about hygiene much more then all holy books of wild people.
The same modern physics, psychology, philosophy.
When I studied law I had a lot of discussion with my friends Muslims in Moscow. And said them that even from point of view of different bans for all people ordinary criminal code of any state is more useful and logical and humane then all that holly books taken together.
The most right idea is the separation of Church and State that was done in most powerful nations more then 100 years ago.
Sorry for non conciseness, but the theme is great:-)
“[T]heir sleep-walking citizens, yet again, will fall for [this] as they have done so many times in the past.”
As it turns out, hardly anyone in the United States supports it. We the generally-asleep citizens of the U.S. hate the idea of a military intervention in Syria. If you check the #Syria hashtag on Twitter it’s full of disdain over the idea of another war, especially in Syria, where it’s clear neither side is our friend. It seems this is one situation that is too screwy for people to lie down and accept.. That said, there aren’t very many people out in the streets over this either.. yet.