A startling Federal Security Service (FSB) report on the 22 July massacre in Norway states that two-days prior to this catastrophic attack Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg [photo top right with Putin] placed an “urgent” call to Putin “begging” Russia’s leader to help stop the events that left nearly 100 innocent civilians dead.
According to the FSB, Stoltenberg first learned of this plot against his country this past Wednesday after reading a “top secret” report prepared for him by the Norwegian Intelligence Service (NIS) on the late March computer attack against Norway’s top military leaders that showed them involved in a conspiracy with Britain’s MI5 Security Service and the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to launch a “two-phase” attack upon Norway modeled after false-flag operations in both Australia and America in the mid-nineties.
The false-flag operations being modeled in Norway were based on the 19 April 1995 bombing attack on the Oklahoma Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building said caused a lone right-wing Christian fundamentalist who used a fertilizer bomb that killed 168, and the 28 April 1996 Port Arthur massacre in Australia where a lone gunman killed 35 mainly because the police failed to show up in a timely manner, and which the aftermath of both attacks caused a fundamental shift away from freedoms and liberties these peoples once enjoyed.
The FSB further reports that this false-flag attack on Norway was a “clear textbook example” of an Operation Northwoods operation designed and prepared by US Military experts. Operation Northwoods was a series of false-flag proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the CIA or other operatives, to commit acts of terrorism in US cities and elsewhere in order to influence public opinion and have been used by many Western governments over these past five decades.
FSB experts note in this report that the false-flag attacks on Norway further mirror those of Oklahoma City and Port Arthur in: 1.) A large vehicle holding a powerful fertilizer bomb was able to gain undetected entrance to a protected government centre; 2.) The armed police response to an ongoing massacre of civilians was delayed for reasons still not explained; 3.) A lone suspect has been indentified as the sole perpetrator of the attacks contrary to witness statements that more people were involved; 4.) The lone suspect is denied the right to an open hearing before the public.
This report also notes that within hours of these attacks occurring, a “virtual flood” of information relating to the suspected mastermind of this massacre was released indentifying him as a “blond-haired blue-eyed” Norwegian named Anders Behring Breivik and caricatured as a right-wing Christian fundamentalist. A person which (coincidentally?) the United States had warned barely 24-hours earlier in a video released by their Department of Homeland Security (DHS) was the type of person they feared most would carry out such a terror attack.
The critical problem with the flood of information being released on/or by Breivik, the FSB asserts, is to what is true and what isn’t. This issue was made even more important by American computer experts noting that the Facebook page said belonging to Breivik appears to have been faked, and as they note:
1: Why is there a version of Anders Behring Breivik’s Facebook profile not showing Christian / Conservative? Even Google’s cache of the Facebook profile retrieved on Jul 22, 2011 23:52:36 GMT supports this factor.
2: How was Christian / Conservative added prior to the profile being removed from Facebook? If our PDF was printed out/saved at Jul 23 01:39 GMT, and the profile was deleted soon afterwards by Facebook, how was a detained Anders Behring Breivik able to change it?
3: Which then needs to be asked, Who had access to in changing the Profile before it was removed?
Aside from the “most likely” faked Facebook page, Breivik is, also, said to have posted an astonishingly detailed 1,500-page manifesto and video [view on left] titled “2083: A European Declaration Of Independence” datelined “London, 2011” on the Internet that claims “the number of Muslims in Western Europe is “reaching critical mass” and there is a core of Cultural Communist elites in Western Europe who really want to destroy Western civilization” and that “Europe will burn again.”
Breivik further said he regarded himself as a successor to the medieval Knights Templar, and claimed to have been recruited at a meeting in London in April 2002, which was hosted by two English extremists and attended by eight people in total. Breivik’s ties with London, and hence MI5, was due to his father being a top economist at the Norwegian Embassy in London where Anders was described as a “mummy’s boy” and “privileged” son of an elite liberal family. [Especially interesting to note about this description of “mummy boy” Breivik is his stating that the main target of his attack was Norway’s “Mother of the Nation” and former Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland.]
The FSB, however, in this report disputes Breivik’s ties with the Knights Templar stating, instead, that this false-flag attack has provided an “ancillary benefit” to the West’s royal and banking elite classes in discrediting this ancient order as “open warfare” between them looms, and as we had detailed in our 21 July report “Murdoch Threat To Expose Obama As “Christ-Child” Ignites Western Fury.”
To the reason(s) behind this attack, this FSB report states, is a “desperate attempt” by British, European Union and American banking interests to force Norway into their “union” [Norway is not a member of the EU] in order to loot their Sovereign Wealth Fund of its estimated $1.5 Trillion in wealth which without the entire Western economy may collapse. Important note, the FSB says, is that what is being done to Norway has already been done to Libya when in what is now called the “Financial Heist of the Century” these same elites launched an unprovoked attack upon this North African nation and promptly looted it of nearly $150 Billion of their Sovereign Wealth Fund in order to sustain their crumpling empire.
Though there is more, much more, contained in this FSB report that we will have to examine further in order to report to you on it accurately upon it. So, and in closing this first report on this tragedy we’ll end with some of the words attributed to Breivik that in light of what this whole issue is being made out to be do, indeed, note us paying attention to them:
“A majority of the people I know support my views, they are just apathetic. They know that there will be a confrontation one day, but they don’t care because it will most likely not happen within the next two decades I am a pioneer in this fight, and I have no doubt whatsoever that we will see a political shift in our favor sooner than we might expect. It might look grim at the moment, but we are after all fighting a self-defeating ideology (Cultural Communism that is, not Islam). The only pragmatic approach towards Islam is to isolate it to Muslim countries once we are in a position to do so — on September 11th, 2083.”
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You guys are carrying on like a bunch of primary school kids. “You pissed on my foot, so i’ll piss in your pocket. If you do that I’ll piss in your face”. Guess what!! That is exactly what: the “enemy” of western civilization wants; disorder, anarchy and any other type of undisciplined behavior imaginable.
If this was a solo act by some crazy (only a crazy could do this) then not you nor I has anything to say. To blame kids because they did not have the training to resist a terror attack is inappropriate. To try to determine who was behind the “deed” if you believe it was a false flag operation (I do) then you don’t blame Norwegians, you try do determine who paid the Bill.
Considering how the Mossad has operated the past 100 years (Yes, they were there all along[they owned Winston Churchill{they even controlled his testicles}]), this is a classic Mossad operation where a useful idiot was used. What pains me, as a Christian (not Vaticanite), the most is that the useful idiot, in this case the perpetrator, is posed as a Christian. There are very few Christians in this world, and they don’t do things like this.
The god of the Israelites, whose true name was Enlin (Satan{the wolf in sheep’s clothing}), had made it his life’s duty to have Humans kill each other. He did not like the creation of humans by his brother “EA”, the true creator of MANKIND.
So, even if eventually we discover that Mossad is not involved, it is still OK as they have created more hell on earth the past 100 years than the devil himself. Just keep one thing in mind: the middle east is just there to draw your attention away from what is really happening. I suggest that each of you guys start an intensive study of post-diluvian history. Hopefully, you’ll save Europe.
Better no world than one ruled by money.
Peter…chill out.
kracked1…die
I ask again:
The Stig… Hvor i norge bor du?
20 min unna begge steder vil vel si i Bærum et sted?
The news here in Norway is FULL of errors and lies, here are just a small handful:
Why did the police lie about the time-line and then changed it?
Why did the police lie about the number of dead and missing?
Why did it take the police more than 2h to arrive @ Utøya?
Why does the police conclude there were only 1 shooter and back that claim up saying “there were only 2 types of ammunition used”? (An army of several thousands people with the same weapons as the crazy dude will also only leave 2 types of ammunition)
Why are all media covered with a single red rose – the symbol of Arbeiderpartiet?
and why is the killer always dressed in red?
I can go on and on but I think you get my point: plenty of lies and misdirection, my question is why?
IF they told the truth they wouldn’t need to change stuff, so when they do they obviously lie…. why?
Personally I doubt this article from “whatdoesitmean.com”, I don’t think Stoltenberg asked Russa for help, I think he called them to make sure they’d stand back….
Bor i Bærum, ja.
Har egentlig ikke tid til dette, men jeg skal bruke noen minutter på å gi deg min subjektive menning:
Q: Why did the police lie about the time-line and then changed it?
A: because they most likely didn’t have someone sitting with a timer, recording accurately what happened and when. People called the police all over the country, after receiving desperate calls and messages from their kids. Police did not lie, but when hundreds of police officers, security, military and medical personnel and others are in a chaotic situation, it takes time to get the whole picture.
Q: Why did the police lie about the number of dead and missing?
A: As above. Probably because there was not one man counting the bodies, but several. At the same time, the helicopters and ambulances started shipping victims to the hospitals fast, I assume all this also happened in the midst of an atmosphere of chaos, fear and desperation. Police and medical personnel are not robots, they are people of flesh and blood, with feelings like anybody else. When in the midst of a massacre, mistakes can be made. Does it make any difference if he shot 65 or 80 people? Several of the victims drowned, and it took time to find them in the water after wards.
3. Why did it take the police more than 2h to arrive @ Utøya?
A: Where did you get those figures? It took less than an hour. Read the time line presented in media, and read the interviews.
Q: Why does the police conclude there were only 1 shooter and back that claim up saying “there were only 2 types of ammunition used”? (An army of several thousands people with the same weapons as the crazy dude will also only leave 2 types of ammunition)
A: They don’t “back that up” with the ammo answer, that’s just one piece of the puzzle. But every gun has it’s own signature, making each bullet that leaves the chamber branded and unique. 10 guns with the same ammo, the bullets will still have different signatures.
Q: Why are all media covered with a single red rose – the symbol of Arbeiderpartiet?
A: Ahem, why are you asking all these questions when you apparently haven’t read the Norwegian news at all? The red rose is the symbol of the Norwegian Labour party, it was their offices that was targeted and their youth camp that was attacked. People show their sympathy with the victims.
Q: and why is the killer always dressed in red?
A: ? Red? His uniform is black, his police dress was black, or at least dark. Strange question.
Q: I can go on and on but I think you get my point: plenty of lies and misdirection, my question is why?
A: Plenty of lack of information, I’d rather say…
Etter å ha lest spørsmålene dine, får jeg en følelse av at du ikke lenger bor i Norge, har du emigrert? Mvh
The Stig… Hvor i norge bor du?
20 min unna begge steder vil vel si i Bærum et sted?
The news here in Norway is FULL of errors and lies, here are just a small handful:
Why did the police lie about the time-line and then changed it?
Why did the police lie about the number of dead and missing?
Why did it take the police more than 2h to arrive @ Utøya?
Why does the police conclude there were only 1 shooter and back that claim up saying “there were only 2 types of ammunition used”? (An army of several thousands people with the same weapons as the crazy dude will also only leave 2 types of ammunition)
Why are all media covered with a single red rose – the symbol of Arbeiderpartiet?
and why is the killer always dressed in red?
I can go on and on but I think you get my point: plenty of lies and misdirection, my question is why?
IF they told the truth they wouldn’t need to change stuff, so when they do they obviously lie…. why?
Personally I doubt this article from “whatdoesitmean.com”, I don’t think Stoltenberg asked Russa for help, I think he called them to make sure they stand back….
Why is the “Manifesto” as edited by Andrew Berwick dated 23rd July?
How did Breivik’s police uniform morph into a pink short and red sweater?
What was Breivik doing at Michele Bachmann’s mind control programming facility?
pink shirt, not “short”.
Guys n Gals, There is and old saying: 2 dogs fight about a bone n the 3rd one runs off with the bone. It appears to me that most of you are to young to know what the Khazar’s have done to this world. Especially the past 200 years. These assholes are aiming to control the world. And we fight about who saw the shooter. How childish! This is part of the indoctrination process. The aim is to wipe out the Aryans. The Satanic god Enlin promised a guy named Abram that his “children” will rule the middle east. What the Zionist don’t understand is that the Palestinians are also “Semites”. In other words, they are “children” of Shem the son of Noah. Every Jew believes that his “Race” is superior to the “Goyi”. That is you and me. Go read their “bible” the Talmut. Remember, Christians only know about the “Torah”. The Talmut is worse than the Koran of the Muslims.
let it be as you say Moses Stig.the point is, I’ll never be on your side fucking prick. where did you get this shit “self proclaimed intelligent ape” :-D ?
The mystery here is: how on earth can you expect to be taken seriously, when you are such an idiot? Look at your language, Naziboy, can you even spell your own name? I fart in your general direction.
String,to whom are u talking? listen monkey,better u check your own grammar and after talk about the spelling of my name. it should be: “the mistery is here; or Here it is the mistery”. I’ll spell ya again my name,this time correctly: SUCK MY BALLS ZIONIST APE.
How can I do that? You don’t have any balls.
Please guys stop that now. Don´t fight against each other because that won´t help anyone.
Fact is that some tiles of the puzzle don´t match with each other.
Fact is that someone killed our beloved children.
Fact is that this murder has been used to manipulate political opinions.
Fact is that this method has worked very well if I read your postings.
Don´t fight against each other, please fight together for us and for our children in peace if it is possible.
Fight for humanity, no matter what the truth in this case and the coming new cases might be.
The real opinions and beliefs in our hearts are stronger than everything else and they are the beginning of every change and they will make the world go round again because it is the biggest present we can make to our children.
This little tree will be big one day and noone will be able to cut it any more.
After every war you will come home to us if you are still alive and before every war we wished you wouldn´t go.
Because without you the World Elite had noone left
to threaten us…
Remember every time warriors play their games we have to dry the tears.
We need you. Remember :No justice can heal such wounds, hatred only leads to more hatred and emptiness.
That´s not what we want for our family.
It is your decision to leave something behind for our children in which they can still believe.
May be one day we will be free and no prisoners bound by the beliefs of the capitalism.
I believe in humanity even if they would kill us all.
You can´t coup a soul, you can´t coop an idea.
One wife
My apologies. I have to admit, I am just doing this for pleasure right now. As very few conspiracy theorists in here have something substantial to present, and non of them knows anything about Norwegians nor the tragic attacks, I keep entertaining myself by reading their rubbish and giving them proper answers.
I do agree with most of what you say, however, there are not that many questions left to be answered when it comes to who the killer was, and why he did it. He was insane and had a plan. Due to Norway being an open society, it worked. Putting the blame on Zionists, how bad they may be, is just ridiculous.
Vaya con Dios.
William Tell is a double agent :)
Henrik Ibsen is a Norwegian :(
Dwa miesiące przed zamachami w Norwegii, na stronie internetowej jednej z rosyjskich organizacji nacjonalistycznych, pojawiły się fotografie 82 osób zatrzymanych przez norweską policję podczas manifestacji antyfaszystowskich w ubiegłych latach. Były to zdjęcia pochodzące z policyjnych kartotek, jakie policja sporządza standardowo wobec każdego zatrzymanego. O publikacji zdjęć, policję zawiadomili młodzi Norwedzy, przerażeni zapowiedzią odwetu ze strony rosyjskich nacjonalistów.
„Czuję się zdradzony przez policję” – powiedział jeden z mężczyzn. Większość z nich w rozmowie z reporterem VG Nett twierdziła, że nie miała żadnego związku z organizacjami antyfaszystowskimi, a na manifestacjach znalazła się przypadkowo. Ich obawy wywołały groźby zamieszczone pod zdjęciami. Policja ustaliła, że fotografie zamieścił w Internecie 22 letni Rosjanin, mieszkaniec miejscowości Vestfold. W jaki sposób trafiły do niego z policyjnych kartotek, nie ustalono. Nie wykluczone, że norweskie służby będą musiały przypomnieć sobie to zdarzenie i sprawdzić, czy na zdjęciach zamieszczonych na rosyjskiej stronie nie znaleźli się przypadkiem członkowie młodzieżówki Partii Pracy.
Zagrożenie ze strony rosyjskich organizacji nacjonalistycznych, było poważnie analizowane przez norweskie służby. Policyjna Służba Bezpieczeństwa (PST) w corocznym raporcie opublikowanym w lutym 2011 roku stwierdzała, że „związki rosyjskich neonazistów z norweskimi grupami antyislamskimi stanowią zabójczy koktail, który może wybuchnąć w każdej chwili”.
W marcu br. podczas procesu ekstradycyjnego Wiaczesława Datsika, prasa norweska przypomniała tezę zamieszczoną w raporcie PST : „Istnieją przesłanki, że doszło do kontaktu między norweskimi prawicowymi ekstremistami, a zorganizowanymi grupami przestępczymi. Może to ułatwić ekstremistom łatwiejszy dostęp do broni, zwiększając tym samym zagrożenie użycia przemocy ”
Zwracano również uwagę na wzrost wpływów brytyjskich i rosyjskich organizacji ekstremistycznych w Norwegii. Zdaniem Janne Kristiansena z PST, szczególnie groźne były kontakty z rosyjską Unią Słowiańską, którą reprezentował Datsik. Przywódca rosyjskiej organizacji Dmitrij Demuskin twierdził, że posiada ona w Norwegii 15-20 członków. W ocenie PST, pobyt Datsika w Norwegii posłużył do zbudowania w tym kraju „przyczółka Unii Słowiańskiej”. W tym celu wykorzystano m.in. popularność, jaką Datsik cieszył się kręgach fanów MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) – dyscypliny, w której zawodnicy walczą wręcz stosując wszystkie techniki dozwolone w innych sportach walki bez broni. Anders Breivik wyznał w swoim internetowym „manifeście”, że zalicza się do miłośników tej dyscypliny.
Wczoraj w norweskim dzienniku „Aftenposten” po raz pierwszy pojawiła się sugestia, że sprawca zamachu mógł mieć związki z Wiaczesławem Datsikiem i grupą rosyjskich neonazistów. Podobne twierdzenie znalazło się również we wczorajszej relacji Aleksandra Braterskiego z rosyjskiego The Moskow Times.
W poprzednim tekście na temat rosyjskiego śladu, wspominałem o akcji norweskich służb z grudnia ubiegłego roku, gdy pod zarzutem przygotowania zbrojnego zamachu zatrzymano w Oslo trzech Rosjan, a podczas rewizji przeprowadzonej w studiu tatuażu znaleziono arsenał broni, mundury policyjne i sprzęt wojskowy. Akcja norweskiej policji była możliwa dzięki pomocy rosyjskiego FSB. Po przybyciu Wiaczesława Datsika do Norwegii, Rosjanie przekazali szczegółowe informacje dotyczące planowania zamachu na ambasadę Rosji w Oslo, sugerując również, że celem mogą być Norwedzy lub norwescy muzułmanie.
“Broń jest ukryta w kanapie narożnej ze skóry, która stoi w recepcji w studio tatuażu” – informował PST szef ochrony rosyjskiej ambasady w Oslo.. Rosyjska FSB zabiegała, by norweska policja podjęła działania w czasie gdy do Oslo przybył Wiaczesław Datsik. Ambasada Rosji przekazała nawet zdjęcia Datsika paradującego po ulicach Oslo, informując, że ma on przy sobie dwa rewolwery. Informacje były na tyle szczegółowe, że podano, iż w jednym z rewolwerów znajduje się pięć kul.
Warto przypomnieć, że następnego dnia po zamachu, FSB zaproponowała (jako pierwsza) pomoc służbom norweskim, a przewodniczący komisji spraw zagranicznych Rady Federacji Michaił Margiełow zapowiedział, że Rosja oferuje pomoc śledczych, mających „ogromne doświadczenie w walce z ekstremizmem.”
Już tylko na podstawie powyższych faktów, można uznać, że rosyjski ślad w sprawie piątkowego zamachu jest jak najbardziej wiarygodny i nie sposób zaliczyć go do „prawackich teorii spiskowych”.
„Jeśli przeżyję i zostanę aresztowany, rozpocznie się etap propagandy” – napisał Anders Breivik w swoim „manifeście” „2083. Europejska Deklaracja Niepodległości” opublikowanym w sieci na dwie godziny przed zamachami. To jedne z nielicznych prawdziwych słów w tym kilkusetstronicowym zbiorze bredni, które od piątkowego wieczoru stanowią podstawową lekturę podekscytowanych żurnalistów i domorosłych ekspertów od terroryzmu.
Jeśli po „etapie propagandy” przyjdzie czas na rozsądek i rzetelne śledztwo, jestem przekonany, że rosyjski ślad zostanie potraktowany z należytą uwagą.
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http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10092993
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10093057
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/terrorisme/artikkel.php?artid=10030043
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10099306
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4181167.ece
http://www.pst.politiet.no/Filer/utgivelser/trusselvurderinger/NTV2011_web.pdf
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/article/441048.html
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10012735
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http://cogito.salon24.pl/327891,rosyjski-slad-fakty
Yes, those are interesting points, but however, you have to consider that Vyacheslav Datsika, when arriving here in Norway, appeared to be mentally ill, he had escaped from a Russian mental hospital, and even if that made him some sort of hero in certain communities, he still acted like an idiot, and I mean seriously retarded, claiming he was a nazi, member of a fantastic organisation and also a great performer of martial arts. The police concluded he was just a overweight retard with a peanut brain and a violent temper, and his martial arts skills were as good as Peter Fakefield’s, so they decided to return him to Russia without even considering his application for a permanent visa in Norway.
Russians may have been involved in helping ABB planing his attacks, but it is very unlikely, considering the lack of brain capacity amongst right wingers from the east block, and also the fact that Vyacheslav Datsika was a self proclaimed nazi, while ABB opposed nazism as a “hate-ideology”, and as such, something he couldn’t identify with.
You’ve got a 24×7 job here by the looks of it Stig. What will you do when your bosses in Tel Aviv want to move you on to disinfo’ing their next atrocity?
Well, Mr. Fakefield, it’s not half as much a problem as the one your psychiatrists will have when they realize one of their patients from the sealed section has gained access to an online computer. Now, that should create waves..
Stig, you need to go back to your bosses in Tel Aviv and tell them their scriptbook is no longer effective, mainly because everyone in the world has seen you and the the same scripts pooping up in connection with every other zionist atrocity too.
are u talkin’ about yourself,zionist sand monkey:)?
:-x I am a ‘Christian Fundamentalist,’ and I find both the accusers, and the defenders of either Breivik or the Gov’t of Norway to be both misinformed, and more than willing to place blame.
First off, this article would NEVER have been run in the USA? Why? Because the media in the US are all controlled by the Deicides- or, for Westerners, the ‘Jews.’
That freedom to state the obvious here on this forum should be a HUGE clue to you, as to why this tragedy struck, and who is behind it all.
Secondly, Breivik COULD NOT have been ANY SORT of “Fundie” if he were a Mason. All of the ‘fundamentalist Christian groups’ I know of (as a cleric, and a doctorate-holding student of religion for the last thirty years) DENY MEMBERSHIP to any KNOWN Mason, as the two groups are antithetical to each other. Moreover, Masonry in its’ highest ranks is clearly Jewish/Talmudic inspired, and that is why it is considered ‘another gospel’ by those who are true Believers.
Thirdly, those who are Zionists in America hold to a HERESY, known to the Church as Dispensationalism. The Anglican cleric, and British writer Steven Sizer, has written a large opus on this FACT. Those who are “Dispies” belong, NOT to the Christian Church but are rabid JEW worshippers, and thus, are no more than ‘shabbas goys’ in the theological realm. Which brings us back to the question, ‘Cui bono?’
All other name-calling, disinformatia (a tactic developed by the Bolsheviks, all of whom were Jews, and who committed Regicide on the Last Czar… and now enshrined in the Mossad’s motto, ‘By DECEIT shalt thou do war’) is a smokescreen to give away PRIMARY EUROPEAN LIBERTIES, in the interests of safety, however one defines that.
Breivik clearly was a PLANT, and more likely than not, an MK -ULTRA ‘Manchuraian Candidate’ USED by those who hate the Palestinians, AND who envy Norway’s ECONOMIC sovreignty. Only ONE RACE fits THAT model, and they aren’t ‘tall, blond and blue-eyed.’ No, they are the Deicides, and are the West’s greatest enemy. This has their greasy fingerprints written all over it.
I agree with you. the jews has a masterplan, read Count Richard N. Coudenhove Kalergi – published in Vienna 1925 Practical Idealism (Praktischer Idealismus)
some fun
The man of the future will be a mongrel. Today’s races and classes will disappear owing to the disappearing of space, time, and prejudice.
The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its outward appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals. [22]
Christianity, ethically prepared by the Jewish Essays (John), spiritually prepared by the Jewish Alexandrians (Philo), was regenerated Jewry. Insofar as Europe is Christian, it is in a spiritual sense Jewish, insofar as Europe is moral, it is Jewish.
Almost all of European ethics are rooted in Jewry. All protagonists for a religious or non religious Christian morality, from Augustine to Rousseau, Kant and Tolstoy, were Jews of choice [Wahljuden] in a spiritual sense. Nietzsche is the only non Jew, the only European heathen moralist.
In the East the Chinese people are the ethical par excellence [..] – in the West it is the Jews.
God was the head of state of the ancient Jews, their moral laws civil law, sin was crime.
Through the ages Jewry has remained faithful to the theocratic idea of the identification of politics and ethics: Christianity and Socialism are both attempts to create an earthly paradise. [lit.: a State of God]
Two thousand years ago, the ancient Christians – not the Pharisees and Sadducees – were the revivers of the Mosaic tradition; today it is neither the Zionists nor the Christians, but the Jewish leaders of Socialism: because they wish, with the most exalted unselfishness, to erase the original sin of capitalism, to free the people from injustice, violence and subservience and to change the redeemed world into an earthly paradise. [27]
From Moses to Weininger ethics have been the main problem for Jewish philosophy.
In this ethical basic attitude to the world lies one origin of the exceptional greatness of the Jewish people – at the same time also the danger that Jews who have forgotten their belief in the ethics sink to become cynical egoists: while people with another mentality – even after losing their ethical attitude – still retain some amount of chivalrous values and prejudices (man of honor, gentleman, cavalier etc.), which protects them from the fall into the abyss of values.
What mainly separates the Jews from the average city dwellers is the fact that they are inbred people.
Strength of character paired with sharpness of the mind predestinates the Jews in their most excellent specimen to become the leaders of urbane humanity, from the false to the genuine spiritual aristocrats to the protagonists of capitalism as well as of the revolution. [28]
Now we stand at the threshold of the third epoch of the new times: Socialism.
Also socialism is supported by the urban class of industrial workers, led by the aristocracy of revolutionary writers.
The influence of the aristocracy by blood, the influence of the aristocracy of the mind is growing.
This development, and with it the chaos of modern politics will only then find its end, when a spiritual aristocracy seizes the means of power of society: [gun] powder, gold, ink, and use them for the blessing of the general public. [32]
so these people have early on stated their desires for our genocide and the destruction of christianty and the comming of anti christ.
The Babylonian bankers (“Jews”) concocted “Christianity” from Amonism in order to destroy Hellenism, which was attracting far too many Jews for their liking. That’s why there are so many stupid people (aka “Christians”) living in the world today. It is an essential part of Christianity that anyone with an IQ over 80 is to be burned at the stake. They just can’t wait to get back to doing that.
For sure,it’s not really thrilling to know of these influences.
I find liberal youth extremely annoying but would never condone violence against them.
Yes, Ol’ Rebel, the Rothschilds fund NATO. Terrorist operations of Rothschild-Mossad origin typically get fronted by US-UK and other NATO partners, and these specifically by patsies presenting as “Christian” or “Muslim” (never Jewish, of course!). Like the four Mossad agents who had German and Austrian passports and who illegally resided in the 91st floor of the World Trade Center North Tower for 2 months prior to 911. spraying the military-grade nanothermate explosives made in the Negev Lab for the demolition of three (3) WTC towers, Mossad always covers its actions with group-identity (and other) deception, turning world opinion initially against some other group or nationality. Notice the Zionist commentary now all over the internet, including from prominent Israeli writers such as Barry Chamish: Zionists are the ONLY people in the world HAPPY about these horrible events! Stig is a Norwegian-Israeli sayan who’s assigned to aide and abet the coverup of Zionist planning and perpetration of this mass-murder. And he should go to jail for like for the lies he has already posted here toward that end. Rediscover911.com .
You read it here,you dd not read it somewhere else.
This article is trying to protect christianity from being demonized by the media as an extremist cult. I mean look at the example we get from the vatican “Molest little boys” and now from this guy “Kill innocent kids”. So do these people represent Christianity?
No they probably don’t. Truth is extremists whether Christians, Muslims or even Jews exist in our societies and demonizing one religion over another is just wrong (as has been done to Islam) when it is clear that all these 3 religions preach almost the same principles.
My words to you is get used to it, Christianity is going to be demonized in the same way most Christians fueled the attack against Muslims. Have a little taste of your own medicine.
So cutting through all the blather you read from the NATO occupied nations i suggest there is a possibility this crime against humanity was and is a NATO strike.
It fits exactly with their NATO OTAN in that an attack on one is an attack on all.
That multinational organisation is a liability and likely to have orchestrated several clandestine attacks,the most prominent being the nuclear demolitions in New-York.
So what has Zionism got to do with NATO?
Who do you think gives those fools their income?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcPrBBAh5tY&feature=share
The question, it seems, is whether this was a false flag operation. There is so much illogical parts to this puzzle that it looks like a classic CIA/MOSSAD operation. If I’m wrong, so be it.
What is illogical?
The problem with the Jews and why they never change their style of mass-murder is they think they’re so much cleverer than the rest of us that we’d never guess it was them.
It was them. Again.
Listen, dude. I know in your opinion every single murder committed on this planet is done by a Jew. That’s funny and your comments make me laugh. But in this case, it was done by a character similar to that of yours, a right wing fanatic. Unfortunately you are too stupid to be able to grasp it, but that’s not my problem. Why can’t you just at least stuff it. I wasn’t even talking to you, Nazi-wannabe.
he is a lunatic, mason and not a far right neo-nazi,you dirty zionist piece of shit! stop spitting your leftist zionist propaganda!
Ok, Blab, so you are saying that Peter Fakefield is a lunatic, mason and not a far right neo-nazi? Well, that explains a lot. Seems the two of you know each other very well. And you are the neo-nazi then, I assume?
Now you’re really giving yourself away, Stink. I wonder how long it will be before you start throwing ‘Holocaust'(TM) lies around.
Moses Sharon String, if you wanna be serious be serious. i have no time to paly kosher games. i was talking about this idiot from norway. he was a patsy used by you,the fucking Israhell!!
I have a beautiful woman, I gladly give myself away to her everyday. You should have one too.
You mean to say that the Holocaust never happened? Aha.. Now we are getting somewhere. On your picture you actually look like a Jew. This stinks of double dealing. As you are only making yourself look bad, I think it must be a part of your plan to discredit people looking for the truth. Everything you and your pal Blab brings on the table, is pure bullshit.
Now, if you give me the name of the hospital, I’ll call them and say that you are loose again. And that Blab is with you.
****I have a beautiful woman, I gladly give myself away to her everyday.***** and her name is George? you are a fucking poof Moses Spring :-D listen ape, u start behaving like all your brainless Israhellite kinsmen. shall I understand you run out of arguments,logical arguments? if yes,then fuck off!!!
REALLY? So nobody will question why Norwegian SWAT team did not use helicopter to get to the island in 10 minutes, instead they took car and boat, allowing the killer to slaughter the bulk of the children in the extra 80 minutes they gave him. You people make me sick.
The Norwegian police’s excuse is that the helicopter crew was on vacation that day.
*REALLY? So nobody will question why Norwegian SWAT team did not use helicopter to get to the island in 10 minute*
Because this is Norway, and not a Hollywood movie.
Why do you say nobody has questioned it? You have access to police data?
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7725967
Police used less than an hour to get to the scene. The reason why they didn’t use the copter, it was grounded for four weeks due to holiday season and therefore lack of crew. It wouldn’t have made any difference as it is only used for surveillance and not to transfer troops.
It was pure Hollywood. Another Arnon Milchen production.
wot a shit explanation u gave: “crew was on holiday”!! do you fucking realize what are u saying? even the poorest countries in europe such as Albania,Moldova,Lithuania have helicopters ready for emergencies,medical etc in 10 minutes maximum time. fuck off you prick with all your “intelligent” philosophy and reasoning..
Since you are obviously just as retarded as Peter Fakefield, let me explain to you:
Emergency helicopters;
Yes, we do have them. Bell and Canadian Sea King, we use them to save people for instance on boats sinking or when people get lost in the mountains. The Sea King is also used for transportation of workers out to the oil fields in the Norwegian sea, hence they are situated near the coast, not in the middle of Oslo (which is in the south-east).
The Bell helicopters typically operate from the hospitals, they are yellow, which makes them highly visible and an easy target for a mad man with a semi-automatic rifle. As you may or may not know, Bells are small and only capable of transporting a few people, a doctor and sick people preferable in portable beds. They are not meant to transport 10 people from the special forces, neither are the pilots from the hospitals expected to risk their lives by flying into a war zone.
Now since you are not able to differ between the various types of copters (medical/rescue/police) I suggest you use a couple of minutes to hit yourself hard in the head with something heavy, so that those lost connections may start working again. I doubt they will, though..
And you can fuck off yourself, the name Vlad, is that from Russian, Vladimir? Because that would explain your insanity, as 90 % of all Russian men are wife beating alcoholics with an IQ equal to their shoe size.
As you may read yourself, the mad man did fire shots at medical personnel on the main land, I doubt you would put your sorry ass in a helicopter and fly out there whilst being shot at. His rifle had a range of 600 meters.
http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/28/nyheter/innenriks/terrorangrepet/utoya/17479107/
look idiot,I didnt ask you to tell me about Bell,TacoBell,Sikorsky,Black Shark, MI-8,McDonalds,KFC etc.Also,I didn’t ask ya to explain me the meaning of “medical and rescue” helicopters.This island is not far from capital and in all european countries there are helicopters ready,even for the transportation of 2 poeple. it is not the case you fucking jew to talk about the IQ level of russians.the russians still fly into space compared to shitty zionist. “Vlad the Dracul/Impaler” was romanian you “intelligent” jew scholar :-D
you’ve proven your IQ level,sand monkey :-D
As a correction, Tim McVeigh was NOT a Christian Fundamentalist, he was a lapsed mainstream Catholic who had no use for religion at all.
BS, his friends were all fundamentalist. Here is a little tip for you all. Go to Democracynow.org, Amy goodman has on Jeff Sharlott the author of the Book on Christian fundamentalists in our government. Jeff has read all 1500 pages of the “manifesto” which refers hundreds of times to the fundamentalist right wingers in the US. He quotes them verbatim. He hates that women have rights, and believes “they” have destroyed europe, according to this nut women shouldnt be educated either. Sharlett explains the connections between the nut in Norway and the nuts (fundamentalist in the US). You should all know that fundamental christians in the US are mostly nationalistic as was this madman, and they believe totally in Israel…they believe when Christ returns, the Jews will worship at the feet of the Messiah, and 140,000 of them will dissappear from the earth to be taken to heaven. I guess the rest of us die in hell or something. Check out Democracynow.org and get some real facts.
McVeigh was heavily involved in the Christian Militas. They hate all muslims, want to kill them all, want the crusades to continue! The nut claims that all of europe and the US must now use their “might” to right the wrongs of the muslim faith. They believe a whole new crusade was continue and says there are cells in the US and Europe. So in my opinion he didnt act alone….he is just taking the heat. For his lawyer says he is insane….so was the Unibomber, (which the nut quotes). Brilliance and insanity are close cousins. His lawyer is not a psychologist or professional to even make such a statement. That stinks to high heaven and screams cover up.
The Norwegians won’t be silenced,it’s just that they have as much to say as the magical cod head that tells fortunes.
.. as opposed to … ?
Norwegian justice? That’s a laugh. Why is an innocent man being held incommunicado in a police dungeon and being denied the right to an open and fair trial?
And what would you do with a man arrested with two guns and surrounded by almost 100 of his own victims shot (not all died, several are still hospitalized and critical injured) to pieces? You would give him some time on TV to tell about his deeds and then offer to drive him home to his apartment so he can get some rest?
This is a photo of Anders Breivik dressed in his fake police uniform killing innocent youth on Utøya, taken by a reporter in a helicopter live:
http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/23/nyheter/utoya/drap/17427253/
Oooh, must be fake, can’t be him, is someone from Mossad, for sure.. How much evidence do you think we need? You must be brain damaged, for your own sake, find something else to focus on than conspiracies, it’s clearly not good for you.
Do you really think anyone could get a conviction in a court on the basis of that photo? It could be anyone. Police uniform? It’s a policeman. Blond hair? It’s a blond policeman – or a Mossad goon in a wig.
But thank you for showing it because it raises more questions than it answers:-
1. Who took it?
2. Where was the photographer at the time?
DNFT
Is is a sad thing to see. People from other countries than Norway with lacking insight and knowledge of norwegian society pissing on victims and the bereft to make themselves seem important in this commentsfield. I live in Norway, and let med tell you all that most of you seem to have almost no knowldge of how the norwegian justice system works, norwegian society and so on…yet you speak as if you had the whole picture…My sympathies to the ones who lost beloved ones in this meaningless attack
I hates the glorious union that’s drippng with our blood..
I am amazed at the different claims, rumors, and assertions none based on fact over what took place that day. Unlike in the US people do not live in fear here in Scandinavia. No rush to judgment. There is a different mindset here in Scandinavia than in the States. They will not go down the same route as Americans have. Americans live in fear and are manipulated by it by the government, media, corporations, etc. That is not the case here. They have a saying here, “life continues”. Yes, what transpired in Oslo was tragic and the police may now get more helicopters and some administrative bureaucratic processes may change, however, the way people live will not change. Look, people go to work and school here in blizzards -40C temperatures while riding their bicycles and scooters, and furthermore, do not clean out the supermarkets out of fear because an inch of snow may or may not fall. We do not have the news media breaking into programing every 10 minutes because a storm may hit. People do not live by fear here. It is just another day and life will continue. Many people will make lots of claims behind what took place in Oslo for their own motivations, recognition, and enrichment. I certainly have my questions; however, people should allow the investigation to carry on before passing judgment. I have more faith in the police here and the investigative process than I would back in the States. 911 taught me that and history confirms my reservations of my own country however it is different here. Having lived in Finland, I understand the delays that took place that day in trying to reach those on the island in spite of how unfortunate and tragic it was. This is not Boston, San Francisco, Los Angeles, or New York where there is an army of aggressive trigger happy police on every corner burning holes in government budgets for imagined contrived threats. The way I see it, unless there were more involved, this was just a case of a lone psychopathic nutter who had too much time on his hands with the wrong purpose in his life and a steroid abuser. Yes, unfortunately, he is a mass murderer who destroyed many lives, truly a sad legacy and no different than what has happened historically with mass murders in the US and everywhere else internationally. There will most certainly be attention over the immediate future on Anders tragic and horrific actions, however, I believe, the spotlight should not just be on him but the mass murderers who run governments who are responsible for the deaths of innocents daily. There are far more blood on the hands of Bush, Chaney, Rumsfeld, Obama and others that people should be just as concerned about especially when they say they are doing it for you but clearly and cleverly they do it for their self-enrichment at the cost of lives and the economy. You can rest assured that there will be no rush to judgment here and it will be investigated publically and thoroughly unlike what transpired ten years ago in New York. As for the wild rumours surrounding this case – Mossad, CIA, Al-Qaida, NATO punishing Norway for the advocating the independent Palestine and restricting the NATO operation in Libya, etc. and Glenn Beck’s moronic comments – these interpretations are to be seen in the context they are made in – opportunist for their own agenda – which destroys their credibility..
You claim that Breivik is a “steroid abuser”. What is the source of that assertion? It seems to me that you are just one more Mossad goon desperate to demonize an innocent man and distance the gangster state of ersatz “Israel” from yet another of its many mass-murders.
OMG, you really ARE an idiot..
Yeah, every freakin one that disagrees with you is with the mossad. Me, myself, is clearly working for the Israelis, been with them for 31 years now, my job is to sit here and ridicule morons like you. Hardly a difficult task, as you most willingly do most of the job yourself.
I thought for a minute that you could actually be more intelligent than you appeared in here (due to your interest in 9/11, etc), but I was obviously wrong. You are nuts and though seemingly not violent, probably just as insane as Anders Breivik. You also seem to have some sort of personality disorder, my guess would be Aspergers Syndrom and/or ADHD mixed with the same delusions as Breivik, a world view that is so far out, that no one but an idiot can believe in it’s existence.
You really believe that Anders Breivik is innocent? You are so moronic I don’t think I can ever find the right words to describe what an idiot you are.
Btw, nice photo and CV, nerd, I bet your family is proud of you. Get well soon, don’t forget to eat your pills.
Has Anders Breivik been convicted?
(Of course you’re Mossad – your whole attitude is a dead giveaway. I’ve been observing Jewish lies and double-talk for many years and you are a perfect example of it, “Stig”.)
Yeah, I’m Mossad. I bet that will make you buy a few more locks to your front door and shut the windows.
You are paranoid.
“Yeah, I’m Mossad. I bet that will make you buy a few more locks to your front door and shut the windows.”
No but I will definitely guard my wallet.
:-D
You really need a brain transplant dude…
You Mossad goons really should try changing your signature catchphrases once in a while. They’re a dead giveaway.
EXPOSED: Illuminati – Freemasons Secret Society Behind Norway Bombing and Shooting
http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/07/exposed-illuminati-freemasons-secret.html
Author Sorcha Faal aka David L Booth = Major cointelpro disinfo. Quick search on FSB’s web-site reveals no such statement. The alleged phone call made was about trade. Check it out for yourself using google translate. Disregard article completely.
Agreed.
You proved me wrong Peter. Great.
Should be: You proved me wrong, Peter.
While I express my sorrow for the terrible loss inflicted by this right-wing drone, I can tell everyone out there that I doubt a massacre of this magnitude could have happened in a youth camp in the United States.
Someone in an American camp would be armed. As we Americans say, “Outlaw guns, and only outlaws will have them.” And because of this, your Nordic drone has changed Norway’s polity for generations.
You are probably right. But consider this, there are more murders in any average American city a day, than we experience here in Norway in a year. One single murder equals a headline in the Norwegian press, in America it is barely notable and would probably not even be mentioned.
Most murders in Norway are domestic, committed by someone who knew the victim intimately. Massacres on a scale like this haven’t occured since WW2.
And that my friend, breaks my heart. I know my country is savage and rustic by Scandinavian standards…but, if you will, look at the valor and love of nation during the Nazi occupation.
I understand the terrible shock your nation is experiencing. I, like many people in this world hate guns. But guns and bombs exist. To ignore them is folly. To ignore political / religious fervor is folly also.
No sane nation can allow people to immigrate who won’t abjure religious and cultural norms and assimilate are doomed.
No proof needed. Just read history.
In Norway, police are not allowed to wear guns when in duty. We believe this has made a big difference compared to many other more violent societies. Our criminals barely use guns either, armed conflicts are more common in the few gang related conflicts that we experience, but even there, murders are rare. When it comes to assimilation of immigrants, we do have some problems, but in a very small scale. Most immigrants, no matter what religious or ethnic background they may have, behave accordingly to our laws, norms and our way of life. Problems are more often related to unemployment and not crime. Thus, with an unemployment rate as low as 3 %, we are still doing fine and it is a good place to be.
Precisely why the US is so violent. We have guns everywhere…but the government would have a hard time turning on the people, because they know we are armed and loaded. Unfortunately its the right wingers, who have them, while progressives like me, cant stand them. Violence begets violence.
Mossad and its zionist double agents in the Pentagon, Rabbi Dov, Wolfie, Rummie, Cheney, plus Chertoff and other state intel assassins cooked up falseflag 9/11, but this time when Israel/London/DC decided to spank Norway for standing up for the human rights of the Palestinians that European jews have been murdering and robbing for almost a century, they stuck to the tried and true US FBI and CIA methods used in OK City and other MK Ultra shooting/bombing sprees. They have a complete cartoon profile for mr. shooter and someone even changes the website for him, probably wrote his stupid manifesto to fit the script of Christian nationalist terrorist threat.
Israhell and Warshington employed MI5 in London again this time like they did on 7/7, recruiting and training the patsy. They are the same people backing Assange and promoting him, the Rothschild City of London zionist banksters. Zionism has agenturs in Norwegian intel services which staged a terror skit for official cover the day or two before.
In a recent shocking and uncircumcised interview, BB said, and this is BB not on Yahoo unhinged and unflappable about discovery of Israel’s ongoing deception of the people of the world, a terrorist who took over twenty standing ovulations in the US Congress-
“I must say in all my zionist days it is surprising the facility with which you cattle are herded into the endgame of world zionism. What a live one that patsy was! Eh, like Obama he was trained in western state apparatus, they do anything when you get them young enough to mold in the service of satan, it’s like night and day. Nothing like order out of chaos and a phony belief system, served up with Edgar Bernays sauce, we masons and occultists, satanists and assassins know how to really hurt a goy. A patsy in time to mess up Palestinian independence and I hope now the world realizes that with Israel you really are not going to negotiate, we are the ones calling all the shots, no pun intended. We fully intend to kill and evict every last Palestinian from our patch of the desert and after that it will be back to falseflagging Mumbai, Manhattan, and other transport systems, just cuz we can and we will. Whose gonna stop us badass Rothschild scum, the US went down like a little scaredy cat and now they have to applaud us or we throw them out of Congress for being anti semitic.”
“We the jews control the Americans”–Sharon.
Meanwhile Brother Nathaniel says wake the heck up boys and girls.
Not “Edgar”, BB. The man’s name was Edward Bernays, a nephew of Sickmind Fraud.
Even some Jews in the US are questioning the Mossad in this attack. Brother Nathaniel has been correct on the issue of the zionists. Anyone who doesnt understand the difference between Zionism and Judasim….google Bernard Freedman, former president of Woodbury Soap Company who was involved during WW2, and watched how the zionists got the US involved in WW2. We have been warned in the US again and again, so has Canada about the zionist world wide domination. Obama at one time was on the side of the Palestians, that is until he became president and under the influence of Biden and Clinton two self stated “100% zionists”. Rupert Murdock a zionist helped steal our elections, destroy our country polictically, created the Tea Party….zionists have their hands in all governments. Germany, (Merkel), France (Sarkozy), Italy, (Berlesconi) and they will get their hands into Norway too….unless Norwegians tow the zionist line.
there is no such report marcus. it is a total crap in my opinion.Billy Tell is right,our kids need to be trained in combat technics,weapons etc. this viking might be a lunatic but there is a lot of reality in wot he said….a sad reality…
The report of the report was concocted by someone who uses the pen name ‘Sorcha Faal’. This person is well-known for disseminating useless, sensationalist nonsense mixed with a little bit of truth. A classic disinformation technique for discrediting the truth.
Facts: Eyewitnesses report multiple shooters. The amount of fertilizer required more than one car. The police waited 90 minutes to show up, giving ridiculous excuses (“a hole in our boat”, right!), just like the USAF did on 911 – 90 minutes, no response! A military-intel operation. Anders-the-Patsy wore a police uniform; and the police knew his name before encountering him. They did not shoot him; nor did he shoot himself. The “defense” attorney filed a GUILTY plea, while Anders himself pleaded innocent. Facebook page altered. Photos altered. The manifesto written in perfect English and exactly the same as the unibomber’s. The story we’ve been fed, People, is filled with lies. And note once again who benefits: not Norwegians, not Christians, not Muslims, just one group… Look at online comments and see which group APPLAUDS these unbelievably horrific acts of terror: Zionists! The Norwegian teens had held a “Boycott Israel” rally a day or two before. Norway had called for an end to the genocide of Palestinians, had divested from Israeli companies. And there was that Oslo Accord… Look it up, People! The cold-blooded troll William Tell himself is a Zionist, as you see. Open your minds, avoid TV and instead research these matters carefully. Here’s what these victims and their families want and need: Truth and Justice.
Eyewitnesses report multiple shooters.
A small amount of the victims (kids) believed there were two shooters, police were not sure, they investigated and still haven’t concluded. Thought, they found no evidence of this and doubt that there were more than one attacker, at least on the island.
http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/krim/politiet-tror-32aaring-opererte-alene-3544746.html
The amount of fertilizer required more than one car.
Bullshit. ABB bought 6 tons of fertilizer, he used half of it to make the bomb, the car he rented was able to carry weight of far more than the 500 kg+ bomb that he had in his van.
Leader of the Norwegian police bomb squad commenting: (use google translator, it sucks, but you’ll get most of it)
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080646
“The police waited 90 minutes to show up, giving ridiculous excuses (“a hole in our boat”, right!), just like the USAF did on 911 – 90 minutes, no response!”
Not true. Most of the local police forces were bound up in the chaos in central Oslo (they also had to look for other bombs in nearby buildings, get people out, close the area, etc), a 50 minutes drive from the other scene, Utøya. They arrived at the island 59 minutes after the shooting was first reported. The boat did not have a hole in it, they had some trouble with the motor midway, but were picked up and continued with two other boats, they lost 10 minutes due to this.
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080727
“Anders-the-Patsy wore a police uniform; and the police knew his name before encountering him.”
The uniform wasn’t real, ABB bought parts of it in Prague and ordered some effects on the web. The police knew his name due to the renting of the bomb car, the number plate was registered with a rental company in the killers own name, and the car was filmed by a camera in Oslo (yes, they are everywhere and especially outside government buildings…) before it exploded. Obviously, one of the first things the police did after arriving, was looking at film footage from the local area to find images of the car and the terrorist. Wouldn’t you?
“They did not shoot him; nor did he shoot himself.”
Ahem.. Well, Norwegian police is not famous for shooting people, their job is actually to see to it that people are NOT being shot. ABB was told either to lay down his weapons or get shot. He cowardly chose the first option. It took 2 minutes from the special forces arrived at the island and until the killer gave up. Police was not his target.
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4184785.ece
“The “defense” attorney filed a GUILTY plea, while Anders himself pleaded innocent.”
Wrong. ABB has confessed to be the terrorist, however, he refuses to plead guilty as he sees his insane actions as “necessary”. The attorney said after meeting with ABB several times that he seems intelligent, but insane, living in his own imaginary world. Probably the only way he can avoid his client from being convicted.
http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/26/nyheter/innenriks/anders_breivik/17459493/
http://www.nettavisen.no/nyheter/article3198376.ece
“Facebook page altered. Photos altered.”
Perhaps, which is obviously not very strange. Others sympathetic to the insane cause, could have had access to his account, changing this for him due to an agreement. This could have been done by anyone, anywhere. Big deal.
“The manifesto written in perfect English and exactly the same as the unibomber’s.”
One of the first things said after the manifesto was released, was that this book wasn’t written by one man alone, but was a partially (and shitty) cut-and-paste job, the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski was one of ABB’s greatest influences, and as such, his works were used, though slightly altered to fit the anti-Marxist line that ABB followed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/25/suspect-anders-behring-br_n_909022.html
“The story we’ve been fed, People, is filled with lies.”
Well, yeah, at least your story. I understand that you don’t have access to the same information as me, but there are not that many holes in the plot anymore.
“Look at online comments and see which group APPLAUDS these unbelievably horrific acts of terror: Zionists!”
The first to applaud was an Islamic group taking responsibility for the bomb. So I guess that makes ABB pro-Muslim..? He has however stated his support for Israel, not because they are Jewish, but because of their conflicts with their Arab neighbours.
“The Norwegian teens had held a “Boycott Israel” rally a day or two before.”
Yeah, right. And some evil genius used the whole night after to make the bomb and then plan the attack on the defenceless children as revenge. Get real.
“Norway had called for an end to the genocide of Palestinians”
Yeah, unlike you we want peace and democracy.
“Here’s what these victims and their families want and need: Truth and Justice.”
What an absurd thing to hear, coming from someone who’s obviously looking for the opposite.
Now, was there anything you didn’t understand here, or may I spend my day doing something more rewarding than answering stupid allegations from people with tin foil hats? Please do respect our sorrow here, everyone involved has been through something terrible, we don’t need shit like this to add to the pain. Though there are secret forces on the planet, plotting against humanity, this just doesn’t seem to be the case here.
Bulls eye!! I read the news from pravda to NY Times (aka NY Bull)every day.
I had exactly the same suspicion. Your summary is spot on
His summary is nonsense.
And your OBVIOUS attempts to discredit it make it all the more believable.
:-D
Yeah, if you are paranoid.
Yeh!! And the earth is flat. Whether you live in Norway or Hongkong, it is obvious that Norway was shaken up so that they can legislate to make Norway a police state like USA, Canada etc. One cant even do research on ww2 in Germany, France or Canada. Jail will be your address for 5 years. The “controllers”, Mossad, MI6 or CIA always pick some weirdo to do their work.
*Eyewitnesses report multiple shooters*.
A small amount of the victims (kids) believed there were two shooters, police were not sure, they investigated and still haven’t concluded. Thought, they found no evidence of this and doubt that there were more than one attacker, at least on the island.
*The amount of fertilizer required more than one car.*
Bs. ABB bought 6 tons of fertilizer, he used half of it to make the bomb, the van he rented was able to carry weight far more than the 500 kg+ bomb that he had made. I think I read somewhere it was capable of 6700 kg.
*The police waited 90 minutes to show up, giving ridiculous excuses (“a hole in our boat”, right!), just like the USAF did on 911 – 90 minutes, no response!*
Not true. Most of the local police forces were bound up in the chaos in central Oslo (they also had to look for other bombs in nearby buildings, get people out, close the area, etc), a 40-50 minutes drive from the other scene, Utøya. They arrived at the island 59 minutes after the shooting was first reported. The boat did not have a hole in it, they had some trouble with the motor midway, but were picked up and continued with two other (faster) boats, they actually gained 10 minutes due to this.
*Anders-the-Patsy wore a police uniform; and the police knew his name before encountering him.*
The uniform wasn’t real, ABB bought parts of it on the web and got some in Prague. The police knew his name due to the renting of the bomb car, the number plate was registered with a rental company in the killers own name, and the car was filmed by a surveillance camera in Oslo (yes, they are everywhere and especially outside government buildings…) before it exploded. Obviously, one of the first things the police did after arriving, was looking at film footage from the local area to find images of the car and the terrorist. Wouldn’t you?
*They did not shoot him; nor did he shoot himself.*
Ahem.. Well, Norwegian police is not famous for shooting people, their job is actually to see to it that people are NOT being shot. ABB was told either to lay down his weapons or get shot. He cowardly chose the first option. It took 2 minutes from the special forces arrived at the island and until the killer gave up. Police was not his target.
*The “defense” attorney filed a GUILTY plea, while Anders himself pleaded innocent.*
Wrong. ABB has confessed to be the terrorist, however, he refuses to plead guilty as he sees his insane actions as “necessary”. The attorney said after meeting with ABB several times that he seems intelligent, but insane, living in his own imaginary world. Probably the only way he can avoid his client from being convicted.
*Facebook page altered. Photos altered.*
Perhaps, which is obviously not very strange. Others sympathetic to the insane cause, could have had access to his accounts, changing these for him due to an agreement. This could have been done by anyone, anywhere. Big deal.
*The manifesto written in perfect English and exactly the same as the unibomber’s.*
One of the first things said after the manifesto was released, was that this book wasn’t written by one man alone, but was a partially (and shitty) cut-and-paste job, the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, was one of ABB’s greatest influences, and as such, his works were used, though slightly altered to fit the anti-Marxist line that ABB followed.
*The story we’ve been fed, People, is filled with lies.*
Well, yeah, at least your story. I understand that you don’t have access to the same information as me, but there are not that many holes in the plot anymore.
*Look at online comments and see which group APPLAUDS these unbelievably horrific acts of terror: Zionists!*
:roll: The first to applaud was an Islamic group taking responsibility for the bomb. So I guess that makes ABB pro-Muslim..? He has however stated his support for Israel, not because they are Jewish, but because of their conflicts with their Arab neighbours.
*The Norwegian teens had held a “Boycott Israel” rally a day or two before.*
Yeah, right. And some evil genius used the whole night after to make the bomb and then plan the attack on the government quarter and defenceless children as revenge. Get real.
*Norway had called for an end to the genocide of Palestinians*
Yeah, unlike you we want peace and democracy.
*Here’s what these victims and their families want and need: Truth and Justice.*
What an absurd thing to hear, coming from someone who’s promoting the opposite.
Now, was there anything you didn’t understand here, or may I spend my day doing something more rewarding than answering stupid allegations from people with tin foil hats? Please do respect our sorrow here, everyone involved has been through something terrible, we don’t need shit like this to add to the pain. Though there are secret forces on the planet, plotting against humanity, this just doesn’t seem to be the case here.
I did have several links, but this site doesn’t allow posting of links it seems. Shame.
Where can I find a copy of this FSB report?
Iapologise to my Scandinavian brethren about the the other madman out there ” Sault ”
If he was on Utoya at the time , he would climbed a tree, shat his pants and cried for ” mummy !
God Bless Him ..LOL!
You’re sicker than Breivik.
What exactly is your problem? Is there some mental defect we should know about?
Why don’t you cough up some evidence that this was not the job of an insane Norwegian, in stead of just acting like an idiot with a cause? Haven’t seen any “documented” facts from you yet.
So says the fake Norwegian whose only purpose here is to repeat the lies, to shout down and insult those who are trying to get at it and to generally make himself look like a Mossad goon in the process.
I am not in favour of Israel nor Jews.
It doesn’t seem as if you are trying to get it, it seems you have already made up your mind and as such, is unable to even consider the fact that you may be wrong.
Do you copy? You MAY be wrong. So stop acting as if you are Jesus.
Wow, “Stig”, you’re really working overtime to push the Mossad line. How much are they paying you?
So, i guess i must be mossad too then as everything stig says is info from actual eyewitnesses and police statements. I’m a british citizen who has lived in norway since 1977, and you make me ashamed of my british citizenry Peter wakefield Slut. Go play on the highway please…
to william tell:dude,have you ever been in a battle?i have served with the recce/demo/para (a.k.a. the red berets)unit during the war in former yugoslavia…even after extensive training (done by former french foereign legion troopers) i would have the moments in the field when i would completely freeze (fully armed,btw) and not be able to pull the trigger for the lack of physical strength..you’re talking about kids you a-hole,un-armed and scared shitless..even if it was a conspiracy they are still DEAD! that’s the point you’re missing you neo-nazi..and yes,we kicked your german ass in the last world war and will again if it comes to that..it’s the people like you,sitting protected infront of their computer screens that make this world into what it is..god bless kiddos and rest in peace!
Why are you too cowardly to use your real name?
Yeah, let’s change the subject so that no one will notice you’re a dick.
And why are YOU too cowardly to use your real
name?
What does that have to do with anything? I am not a regular in here, and as such I haven’t registered my name. Sorry for calling you a dick, but I’m just fed up with people who think they know best, when in fact, all they do is spread “facts” that are not facts at all.
You must be pretty fed up with yourself then.
You are clearly a shill that using a fake persona.
You have about as much credibility as Hitler.
:roll:
Godwin’s law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1
@billy the kid: Actually, it is people like you who made this world into what it is.
As long as people believe there are “more important” people who can tell them whom to kill this will never end.
As long as an ideology is enough of a justification to kill people it will never end.
Were it not for those who falsely believe following orders is “the right thing” to do, the few people in power had to do all their dirty work themselves.
The guy who sits in front of a computer would never actually harm anyone.
ADD didn’t follow orders, in stead he looked upon himself as a knight and a leader, to be followed. Why can’t you read his manifest yourself and then make up your mind, in stead of just guessing.. Second part of the manifest is a diary over the last months and weeks, how he made the bomb, etc.
ADD = ABB. Damn you, typo error…
Nobody cares where you served or which genocide you survived or if you personally knew Breiviks mum. On the internet anybody can be anything..
Pulesveis, although there is no doubt you are right, I have a strong feeling you will not be able to convince these people. This little debate exemplifies a great challenge in our time: how should one behave in a debate where one part seems to be filled with hate.
Noca, I am so sorry to hear that you’re full of hatred (‘hate’ is a verb, by the way). Perhaps you should try Buddhism. That might help you get rid of it.
Thanks for the correction concerning hate/hatred, I actually didn’t know that.
Slug, or Stig, or whatever his name really isn’t tried to tell me that Norwegian newspapers don’t tell lies.
Is it not also the case that Norwegian people do not commit mass-murder?
The BBC interviewed two “survivors” of Otoya. Both were Jewish. The overdubbed one of them with a “translation” even though he was speaking good English in order to hide that fact. I know because I have the same video clip without the audio overdub.
You guys need to think 9/11 and 7/7. Jewish gangsters were behind them and they’re behind this too. You’re been collectively “punished” for criticizing the gangster state of ersatz “Israel” (proprietors: N.M.Rothschild Bank).
Peter, I do follow you on the 9/11 issue, I can hardly see it as anything else than an inside job, but believe me, nothing in the case of the massacre on Utøya, Norway, seems to have anything to do with jews or any other conspiracy other than those made up by ABB.
I understand you really want this to be a plot made by Zionists, so that it may support your own world view, but it doesn’t. There were kids from all levels of society on that island, Jews, Muslims, ethnic Norwegians, non-Muslim Arabs, etc. And they came from all over the country to meet in peace and discuss their fav hobby, politics. That’s how the Norwegian society is, multicultural, and these meetings have been held annually for more than 20 years. ABB has said that he wanted to hurt the labour party (which he sees as Marxist, which isn’t far from the truth, but that’s another issue) by killing future leaders. He specifically targeted children of famous politicians.
Sad to say, he is crazy, nothing you say can change that.
All the european blogs I read are saying they believe it was a zionist operation. Just like 911/ and 7/7 and the Mombai bombings. Norway was prepared to vote for palestinan independent country. We all know that bibi the terrible has sent people around the world to make sure they dont vote in Sept. If Norway was prepared to do the honorable thing, zionists would be outraged, their vote might even influence other european countries to do the right thing for the world.
Let’s get some facts straight here:
1. Getting dum-dum bullets in Norway is no problem, hunters use them, and the maniac had a hunter’s license. Actually, when hunting deer, dum-dum bullets are the only ones allowed, that is because they are hollow tipped and will shatter into several pieces at impact, doing extreme harm to any animal it hits, and most likely finishing it off in one shot.
2. The youngest kids were 11, hence not teenagers, and obviously not able to take a fight with the steroid fuelled madman, standing at 190 cm, fit, and armed with an half-automatic rifle (30 shots magazines) and a glock. They had no chance, even though one kid aged 10 who’s father just had been murdered, stood up to the killer and asked him to stop shooting and leave them alone. The madman actually let him go.
3. This is no cover up story. It is the work of a very insane guy who spent 9 years planning this shit, his manifest, which I have read, tells a story of a intelligent, but very cynical and paranoid lunatic in need of attention for his newly written right wing, extremist book. His mind was totally screwed up, he wants 400.000 people dead in Europe, and his book is a mix of vivid histories about communists, marxists, multiculturalists, and islamists, and then there is a how-to-be-a terrorist for dummies guideline. Insane, I tells ya.
I don’t suppose you’d care to share your sources, would you? Some or other pack of professional liars, no doubt. You should try thinking before letting your emotions carry you away.
huh?
Where did you get your information? If you won’t say then it will be fair to assume you just made it all up.
Bullets = common knowledge in Norway. Nammo Raufoss produces them for sale in Norway, they can also be purchased over the Internet.
I know people who were on the island, I am able to read newspapers, and as many other Norwegians I have also read ‘A European Declaration of Independence’, the manifest. What is it you don’t understand? Listen, dude, I like a good conspiracy theory, but this is just not it.
So you got it from newspapers. Thank you. Do you believe everything you read in newspapers?
As for your claims to be on the spot, who cares where you are? It would not validate what you are saying even if it was true.
No, I certainly don’t believe everything I read in newspapers, but unlike you, I am not a total retard either.. I bet you are wearing your tinfoil hat at this very moment. :roll:
Are you completely incapable of presenting rational arguments? The fact that you would like to reduce this exchange to a slanging match indicates that there is little substance to your assertions. It is also pretty good evidence that your only purpose in hanging out here is to prevent reasonable discussion of alternative possibilites, such as the framing of Breivik as a patsy.
So where were his parents, friends, teachers etc! They didnt no this guy was a brilliant lunatic? Come on something is missing in this scenario. He was never seen by a psychiatrist? What about his school records, his closest friends..did they all think he was aokay?
There have been several articles on his friends and family in the Norwegian news.
He was a very narcissistic person, obsessed with his own greatness and looks, he used plastic surgery to become more handsome, he complained that he was too feminine (due to lack of father when growing up) so he started using steroids already as a teenager. He was known for telling stories about all his girlfriends (no one ever saw him with a girl, on the contrary, he was once observed dancing in a gay parade), and so forth. He had very high thoughts about himself, wanted to be rich and famous. Nothing wrong with that, but unfortunately, he was also raving mad.
If you use google translator you can go through articles in the Norwegian media, these are the largest newspapers:
http://www.vg.no
http://www.dagbladet.no
http://www.nettavisen.no
http://www.aftenposten.no
Other:
http://www.nrk.no
http://www.tv2.no
Plenty of stuff to read for those interested.
We grew up tall in the shadow of the mushroom cloud,managed to avoid being downwinders too.
he was supplied by the CIA/Mossad,mydeltapi. you have to ask the norwegian government about that. the white kids need to be prepared in the future. no smokes,drugs,alcohol etc,but phisical and mental training.
I think it’s called hollow point tipped bullet. Get your bullet and mark an x on the top of it. cut the bullet, then it shreds on impact. just saying.
Hey Bill, get a grip dude. They were fucking little kids. Since we can swear like mother fucking truckers here, let me fucking swear away. These kids weren’t raised in the inner city of Detroit, nor the jungles of fucking Cambodia. They were spoiled little 15 and 16 year olds, they weren’t training for combat, nor did they assume a dude dressed like a cop was going to shoot them in the head!
Show some compassion and let the little bastards RIP.
The assasine used bullets that exploded into myriads of small particles in the body of the victims, according to a surgeon that treated victims.
This kind of ammunition is only used by some nations special forces. Where did he get that from?
mydeltapi
What is the source of your information? How do you know it was a surgeon? The fact is that you don’t. You are simply repeating what some mass-media news outlet has chosen to tell you without ever once stopping to ask if it was true.
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080715
Yeah, Norway’s largest newspaper would for sure lie about this and write the name of a non-existing doctor from a large hospital without anyone reacting.. Sure… :roll:
Norwegian newspapers are not like “News of the World”…
Have you met this doctor and asked him for yourself? No, you have not. You’re just taking someone else’s word for it, aren’t you? And on that basis you want me to take YOUR word for it.
This whole affair stinks and nothing stinks more highly than Breivik being deprived of his right to be heard. I guess the concept of justice hasn’t reached Norway yet. Perhaps some time in the 33rd Century…
“and nothing stinks more highly than Breivik being deprived of his right to be heard”
He demanded the police to go to his house and get his uniform, and he wanted an open hearing so that he could read from the manifesto with cameras from news agencies from all over the world pointing at him. Neither the Norwegian people nor the police wanted to grant him that opportunity, considering he just killed dozens of youngsters.
The police said no (though it’s for the judge to decide), because ABB had claimed there are still to similar terror cells left in Norway waiting for instructions, and they didn’t want to give him the chance to send coded messages through the media.
He was allowed to read from his manifesto for between 5 and 10 minutes in court, until the judge stopped him.
You seem just as fanatic as those you are trying to expose.. Too bad, because you really just undermine your cause by acting like a jerk. Try and be sensible.
Norwegian people are not like Baruch Goldstein.
And yet, supposedly, one of them is, if we are to believe your Norwegian newspapers.
There will always be lunatics out there, this time it was our turn, sad to say. :(
NOW your beginning to ask the right questions. Every bullet has a marking on it. they will find out it was a military issue, now what military is the question. We all know that Israel makes bullets even for Amerikkka.
you are right, billy.there is no freedom unless you trust in Lord and keep your Glock away from moisture. You gave a perfect description of the “white braindead cunts”. I have nothing to add for the time being. Anyway,lets go back to the russian Putin. they quote KGB but what was the answer to norwegian request??
William Tell, that is hilarious. The liberal media fantasy again. That’s a scream. Do you do kids parties?
Tell, I normally wouldn’t say this to anyone, not even anonymous people on the web, but I just can’t resist it after reading your delusional ramblings; fucking idiot. Best regards from a Norwegian who was 20 minutes away from both incidents when they happened.
“Muslim children and Black children are NOT taught to run away like scared little bunnies. They are taught to KILL the infidels and the unbelievers.” :roll: :roll: :roll: Yeah, just like the ones that meet to play football with my own kid three times a week.. Their parents are as normal as, well, not you, but as anyone else in their right mind. People like you are a far greater threat. My advice, grow a heart and get some knowledge, maybe there is still hope for you.
I don’t believe you. Nor should anyone else. You’re just making it all up.
Troll
Thank you for proving me right :-D
You must understand the christian conservatives all around the world hate muslims and blame them for everything. Even the frigging Murdock used the Sun, Wall Street Journal and his other rag papers making the claim that muslims did it. They did the samething when McVeigh brought down the FBI bldgs in Oklahoma. I never believed Muslims did 911 either, another inside job. Just like the zionists blow crap up, dress up like Palestinans to do awful things to blame the other group. Hitler did the same in Poland…the apple doesnt fall far from the tree. Its like this guy used the McVeigh debacle for his own…but I truly dont beleive he acted alone. There are more out there somewhere.
“a Norwegian who was 20 minutes away from both incidents when they happened.”
So you coould have arrived to the island before the police?
Yes, I could.
What a big load of crap. :roll: I’ve read the manifesto of this mass murderer, and any speculations about “white flag operations” is just bullshit. And some of you people commenting, Jeezezz, get a grip… William Tell, fertilizer bombs on 500 kilos can be pretty hefty, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. And since you apparently have no knowledge about Norway or Norwegians either, find something else to comment on…
Which “mass murderer” is that, Slug?
Anders Behring Breivik. Are you retarded? You think you know more than me? I practically lived next door to him for several years.
How do you know he’s a “mass murderer”, Slug?
You really think that approximately 600 people being shot at (whereas more than 60 were killed) is unable to identify the guy shooting??
He was seen in Oslo just minutes before the blast, the car used for the bomb was rented by Avis in the killers own name (he was convinced he would be shot dead by the police and didn’t bother to hide his tracks the last day), he rented a farm to be able to buy fertilizer (he bought 12 tons), his father was interviewed on national TV, etc, etc, etc.
Where exactly have these 600 people identified anyone? Who saw him in Oslo? Where is the claim by Avis that Breivik rented the car? How do you know he rented the farm for the purpose of buying fertilizer and why would he buy twelve tons? Are people now to be convicted of crimes on the basis of television interviews of their fathers?
Where you both in the same terror cell together?
:-D
You make no sense. Moron…
Korma, this little “know it all” airhead is a little Troll, don’t bother to answer this shit for brain wanna be. ;-)
“The only reality of this attack is that between five and seven hundred fit youngsters did NOTHING to even TRY to protect their womenfolk or their friends, instead they ran like scared rabbits and left their friends to die alone, because there is only one way to kill a person and that is to cut off the battery (the brain) and this would need a clean headshot. Are you trying to tell me that this fool made 80-90 headshots? ”
You are a moron. Seriously. THEY WERE UNDERAGED KIDS. Also if you actually paid attention to what actually happened instead of your delusions you’d have noticed most of them drowned as they swam to safety.
I suggest you sit down and start to THINK for once in your misbegotten life and not repeating the drool of the liberal morons of the media. I WATCH the TV and these “poor little defenseless babies” were TEENAGERS. These are in the same age group as the gangs that roam the streets of most capital cities these days, killing members of rival gangs. They are the same age group as the mindless morons that think nothing of smashing up an entire town and hospitalizing innocent people just to protest because their favorite bloody soccer team lost. They are in the same age group as the morons that paraded in London protesting increases in exam fees because they want to go to University where they can have sex, drugs and booze and learn Medieval History and expect to get a job as a top paid accountant when they leave!
You are missing the whole point, you idiot. Kids are brought up today not to even WATCH violence, they are taught that “It doesn’t matter whether you win or lose, it’s how you play the game”. They are taught that only the meek shall inherit the earth. They are taught that you should always negotiate and that violence is not permissible. They are taught that it’s a crime to own a weapon, so only criminals can now own weapons and the rest of us are left defenseless. We are taught that “we should turn the other cheek”.
People are thrown into prison for trying to defend their property or their families. The poor bastards who fail to understand that it’s a crime to be a leader usually end up in jail. Children are brought up to have NO respect for authority or anyone else for that matter, so it’s little wonder that those who don’t “fit in” and don’t swallow this bullshit and WOULD try to defend themselves are all criminalized. It’s the FIT, HEALTHY, TEENAGERS and NOT children any longer who ran like scared little rabbits and drowned themselves rather than face life and death. The teenagers who will one day grow up to be more liberal drooling morons who preach the same gospel of non-violence and criminalize anyone who isn’t like them and who will one day be politicians. God help us all.
Unfortunately for you, Muslim children and Black children are NOT taught to run away like scared little bunnies. They are taught to KILL the infidels and the unbelievers. They are taught that it’s a GOOD thing to blow themselves up in a crowd of innocent people. Black children would have stoned this moronic killer to death and I do mean CHILDREN, not even teenagers.
You are obviously one of these that believe in non-violence, ban guns, ban knives, ban catapults, ban aggressive dogs, lock up anyone who tries to defend himself or his property, ban boxing, ban martial arts, ban violent films, ban violent games, ban every bloody thing so that people have so sense whatsoever of self-preservation and they would rather kill themselves than face violence.
Islam is the religion of choice for non-white people and Islam is the religion of death and violence. Blacks don’t have the same mindset than you so-called ‘civilized’ white Europeans. “Kill the Infidel”, “Kill Whitey”, “One Boer, One Bullet”. So whilst you preach “Turn the other cheek”, “The meek shall inherit the earth”, there are PLENTY of people busy planning how they can blow themselves up and get their 72 virgins.
No-one in his right mind can condone this act of mindless violence, but the effect will be the exact opposite of what the media is frantically trying to tell us was intended. If it wasn’t for the like of idiots like yourself, young people might wake up to the idea that it’s a GOOD thing to learn how to defend yourself and that violence will get worse and worse as more and more people who don’t think like you, stream into Europe from the Middle East and Africa.
Remember the saying “It’s far better to keep one’s mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all possible doubt”.
The TOWER OF BABEL is global. Confusion, denial, red herrings, deceit, cover ups, false flags, disinfo, misinfo, and blatant lies are the daily menu of the main stream media on bahalf of their ruling global mafia masters. With such a world wide corrupt mentality is it any surprise that everything is disintergrating? That corruption is so prevalent it is expected and looked upon as “normal” and the “world leaders” are blatant and shameless in their propagating their politically outrageous behaviour as though it was a badge of honour. Most people have become conditioned to this radioactive political spin to the point that the majority are now so contaminated with the same mentality that they cannot tell the difference between the truth or the lie. This is why society is so morally bankrupt and heading for disaster.
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2011/07/27/new-york-times-caught-publishing-cia-propaganda-on-norway-attacks/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+pakalert+%28Pak+Alert+Press%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail
A conspiracy with Britain’s MI5 Security Service and the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and probably Mossad too.
http://www.eutimes.net/2011/07/norway-premier-begged-putin-to-stop-massacre-planned-by-elites/
Also, here’s a video I just posted regarding the Mainstream Media misinformation over what may be really happening regarding
the terror attacks in Norway last Friday 22nd July. Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qLm4-srIzg
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2011/07/25/oslo-false-flag-now-everyone%e2%80%99s-a-suspect/comment-page-0/#comment-13852 <The portrait painting on this link of Bill Clinton sums up those in power.
You know that last quote of yours? Maybe you shuld practise what you preach? Insensitive prick!
I guess there are many underage kids in the military then. These “kids” were 16 to 22.
Actually, they were 11 to 22. I live in Norway. I know some of these people. I hope you never have to experience something like this for yourself.
To real Norweigians: Is it true the government was holding some kind of “test” on the day it happened. Were their police or military involved in those tests. If so, it reminds me of 9ll…Cheney had the airforce running “tests” up and down the east coast as 911 was happening. He told them to “stand down” even while a “plane”? was headed to the Pentagon. If its true your PM called on the Russians to assist, why wasnt there more “troops” police on the ground? Why wasnt their helicopters available to get to the Island faster? Why did the first boat become disabled? There are many many questions to be asked of the police, the military, the CIA, the Mossad? We may never know the truth about any of this.
There was an security drill in Oslo a few days ahead of the bombing, that is probably what some may be referring to, but that is pretty normal, they even have them frequently in schools.
When it comes to the article above, you may notice that no Norwegian has made a remark about it. That’s because the story is so unrealistic and silly that it’s not even worth commenting. Obviously, if Norwegian authorities knew anything about the terror attacks, there would be armed forces everywhere, and the Russians would probably be the last ones asked to help. They can’t even solve their own security problems, as we have seen on several occasions.
Nothing we have been told about the Norway thing is true. Moreover, the truths that we have NOT been told include the fact that the island of Otoya is the private property of Norway’s JEWISH prime minister.
Documentation?
Correction:-
I misunderstood Stoltenberg when he said “we own it”. I thought he meant himself and his Jewish wife. He meant the Labour Party, although in actual fact the island is owned by the Workers Youth Party.
Wow, you misunderstood. Unfortunately, that’s not the only thing you have misunderstood in this case.
The facebook profile HAD christian and conservative on it RIGHT AFTER they released his name. And why wouldn’t it? You yourself describe him as exactly that…
I myself am neither christian nor conservative. However, it must be asked – since when is being a christian conservative a crime? How many christian conservatives are there in the world? Will they all now be arrested?
No, as opposed to if this had been done by muslims christian conservatives will not be persecuted…
Christian Conservatives are as crazy as the Taliban, or the Zionists. They are stuck on stupid, believe in fairy tales, and USE the religious books interpreting them as they want. They want the whole world to go Christian conservative. Christian Conservatives in the US are stuck in the old testament (before Christ), they are the teabaggers over here. They are facists just like the nazis were. They love dictatorships which is why they are always trying to “change” our consitution. They support the wealthies, richest corporations (even though they themselves are working poor). These are white nationalists, like the KKK in the US, they believe ONLY whites should have any power, or any right to be on the same level as a white person. They are rascists and fascists….thats why they must be watched,monitored to protect the sane people from their crazy, insane ideas.
You are right spktruth. Just so everyone knows the elite control every aspect of our lives.
That is right, but in North America, not in Europe.
William Tell, while I do agree that this story is far more complicated than anything we would ever read in the mainstream press, I do not agree with your heartless attack on the victims.
Many of the victims were young children who, yes, have not been exposed to violence or had to defend themselves against violent people, as apart from being the children of the ruling party they live in a city which has not seen much violence.
I find it sad that people are so insensitive to the fact that many lives were lost and they were innocent victims. While free speech is necessary and so called conspiracy theories may be closer to the truth than mainstream news, we discredit our movement if we are so tactless and simply view everything in terms of an intellectual understanding. I am sick of seeing this mass murder analysed with no feeling for the victims.
Tasteless though Tell’s mode of expression may be, the dead are not going to benefit from sympathy. Better we concentrate on finding the connection between Breivik and Mossad before the trail goes cold.
People I know in the US believe this was a mossad operation. This is all about Norway standing by Palestines nationhood. This right wing Christian is most probably also a zionist. In the US the Christian right are rabid zionists. Norway and the rest of Europe better start thinking “assimilation” of people of color and stop acting like whites rule the world. The US had a hard lesson to learn thinking darker skinned people are inferior…
Well, the problem is that Tell also seems to have very little insight into the drama on utøya in addition to scolding dead children for being scared of an armed madman…His facts are lacking at best…I live in Norway and have seen plenty of eyewitness accounts by now from several of the kids on the island…If this WAS a false flag attack, I believe it is the US rather than mossad who is behind it though…Then again, Mossad has performed at least one terrorattack in Norway previosly…Time will tell.
The entire story of this event is suspicious. The damage done by this bomb required far more power than a fertilizer bomb which could be packed into a car. My guess is that it was a military grade explosive. Where did the killer get it from?
The attack is described as being “cowardly”, but it was far from that. ONE lone gunman taking on between 500 and 700 fit healthy youngsters was the most idiotic thing I could even imagine. Even a green beret would flinch from such a suicide mission. Had the killer(s) tried this anywhere in Africa or in fact anywhere EXCEPT in a “civilized” (brainwashed) society, I doubt he would have survived for even a quarter of the time we are led to believed that he wandered around calmly killing people.
The only reality of this attack is that between five and seven hundred fit youngsters did NOTHING to even TRY to protect their womenfolk or their friends, instead they ran like scared rabbits and left their friends to die alone, because there is only one way to kill a person and that is to cut off the battery (the brain) and this would need a clean headshot. Are you trying to tell me that this fool made 80-90 headshots? BULLSHIT! How many people survived being wounded, because the only other way that a gunshot victim dies is to lie in a pool of his / her own blood until they die? This isn’t Hollywood where people die instantly when shot, unless the killer was using hollow point or explosive ammunition.
What is clear is that none of these ‘brave’ youngsters, who are supposed to be descendants of the Vikings, even gave a moment’s thought for the lives of their friends and colleagues. There wasn’t a single ‘leader’ who tried to form a resistance group. It never occurred to them that the killer would have to reload his weapon. It never occurred to them that they could use the ample cover on the island to bombard him with rocks and stones and then tackle him and disarm or kill him. It never occurred to them that they could double back to the main compound and arm themselves with knives, make catapults, makeshift bows and arrows or do anything at all other than to run away and jump into the sea and drown themselves, leaving their friends to die alone. These are the future “leaders” of Norway? God help Norway, they are going to need it!
Finally, it just doesn’t make sense for a so-called Christian Fundamentalist to be a Freemason, nor does it make sense for him to attack his own people. Why not put the bomb outside a Mosque during Friday prayers? Why not enjoy his killing spree in the Muslim areas or in another mosque? Are you trying to tell us that a man who could plan all this alone was so bloody stupid that he really believed that the best way to exterminate pests is to kill the people who do pest control?
The bottom line is that this deplorable and REALLY stupid event has achieved several things: –
1. It has proved that White European people will not try to protect themselves, their friends, their families or their women. They will just sit back and allow themselves to be exterminated without any resistance at all.
2. It now gives Governments world-wide, yet another excuse to continue the unlimited immigration of Muslims into Europe and the rest of the world.
3. It allows Governments to vilify anyone who isn’t a spineless, bleeding-heart drooling liberal and to pass even more laws taking away even more of our so-called ‘democratic’ rights and freedoms.
4. I’m guessing that this will lead in the not too distant future to the banning of all political parties who are anti-Islam / anti-immigration like the BNP, the EDL, the PVV and any other so-called ‘Rightwing’ group.
5. Speaking out against Islam will soon carry the same penalties as discussing the ‘Holocaust’.
Why doesn’t Norway adopt Sharia law NOW and get it over with. They really deserve everything that we will all sooner or later get, if we carry on traveling this road.
He shot wildly, quickly, he stopped for SECONDS at a time to load ammo.
And do you know how easy it really is to make a bomb? All you gotta know is where to look for the info. If you’d researched this incident AT ALL you’d know he spent a long time ordering and getting what he needed etc.
They were teenagers, some children, NOT SOLDIERS, NOT LIVING IN A PLACE WHERE THIS IS EXPECTED AT ALL, or in a society where this is supposed to happen at all.
They were UNARMED.
What fucking chance do you have against AK-47 and whatever the fuck else, I don’t remember, he used? And do you recall being a teenager yourself?
And DON’T YOU FUCKING DARE call them cowards. They helped each other, they protected each other, they sacrificed themselves for each other.
And yeah he DID use explosive ammo, dum-dum bullets, and he shot them TWICE to MAKE SURE they were dead. AT LEAST DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH BEFORE YOU SPIT IDIOCY!!!
– Norwegian AUF member
Your English is remarkably like gutter English, so I do not believe you are Norwegian. You are as fake as the case against Breivik. There is no evidence whatsoever to support any of the nonsense you spout.
“Your English is remarkably like gutter English, so I do not believe you are Norwegian.”
I pretty much think you understood what he said. Now let us see you write something sensible in Norwegian, you conspiratorial, English turd.
Let the fake Norwegian answer for himself, you silly woman.
Yes, he is a fake.
It only makes the article that much more believable.
They are getting desperate and sloppy.
William Tell you wouldn’t have happened to be there as well? You sound like the shooter himself – the same ilk. I don’t believe there was just one man shooting on the island – from the youths’ description this ‘lone’ shooter seem to be in many locations at once. Youths reporter shooting from different directions. Reading your post makes me wonder whether you weren’t there shooting as well.
William Tell you are talking to the mainly brainwashed main stream media crowd of liberals, faggots, lesbians, politically correct do-gooders,flower people, the sheeple, the flouride heads. With most of society having that cocktail of mental madness, it should now be self explanatory to you why society is in freefall. They will ALL be killing each other shortly.
You really need more information and knowledge. It must be easy sitting in your sofa pissing on these youths who were facing a gunman armed ith semi-automatic rifle and automatic glock. I’d love to see how YOU would react put in the same situation. Furthermore, a lot of these kids showed extreme bravery in this situation. Helping shot friends swim to land and so on. Some drowned while helping others. And the gunman DID have hollowpoint ammo. And he coldly and systematically made sure every victim he shot was dead by shooting them in the head after wounding them…You clearly don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. Norway has about 150 000 muslims in its 4,5 million population. How is that a country overtaken by islam if I dare ask? Also, most muslims in Norway are not fundamentalist. I myself know several of them. regular people is all they are. I’m proud that my country hasn’t lapsed into hatred and fear, but instead focuses on keeping our liberties and grieving the ones lost…Now, whether or not this was a false flag attack time will tell like it did with 911…