The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto.
The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush’s administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the United States would support the talks as long as the negotiating forum, the so-called Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty, “operates under the rules of consensus decision-making.”
“Consensus is needed to ensure the widest possible support for the Treaty and to avoid loopholes in the Treaty that can be exploited by those wishing to export arms irresponsibly,” Clinton said in a written statement.
While praising the Obama administration’s decision to overturn the Bush-era policy and to proceed with negotiations to regulate conventional arms sales, some groups criticized the U.S. insistence that decisions on the treaty be unanimous.
“The shift in position by the world’s biggest arms exporter is a major breakthrough in launching formal negotiations at the United Nations in order to prevent irresponsible arms transfers,” Amnesty International and Oxfam International said in a joint statement.
However, they said insisting that decisions on the treaty be made by consensus “could fatally weaken a final deal.”
“Governments must resist US demands to give any single state the power to veto the treaty as this could hold the process hostage during the course of negotiations. We call on all governments to reject such a veto clause,” said Oxfam International’s policy adviser Debbie Hillier.
The proposed legally binding treaty would tighten regulation of, and set international standards for, the import, export and transfer of conventional weapons.
Supporters say it would give worldwide coverage to close gaps in existing regional and national arms export control systems that allow weapons to pass onto the illicit market.
Nations would remain in charge of their arms export control arrangements but would be legally obliged to assess each export against criteria agreed under the treaty. Governments would have to authorize transfers in writing and in advance.
The main opponent of the treaty in the past was the U.S. Bush administration, which said national controls were better. Last year, the United States accounted for more than two-thirds of some $55.2 billion in global arms transfer deals.
Arms exporters China, Russia and Israel abstained last year in a U.N. vote on the issue.
The proposed treaty is opposed by conservative U.S. think tanks like the Heritage Foundation, which said last month that it would not restrict the access of “dictators and terrorists” to arms but would be used to reduce the ability of democracies such as Israel to defend their people.
The U.S. lobbying group the National Rifle Association has also opposed the treaty.
A resolution before the U.N. General Assembly is sponsored by seven nations including major arms exporter Britain. It calls for preparatory meetings in 2010 and 2011 for a conference to negotiate a treaty in 2012.
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the problem is we have a dumb fuck in office that isnt born in america and is a goddamn muslim you know i keep hearing about if Israel bombs iran that we are gonna be bombed here in america by muslims already in the country well i have a fucking fix to the problem walk down the street when you see a muslim shoot them there problem solved you can say its raciest all u want i really dont give a fuck you know you dont see many black or mexicans or whites for that matter tryin to blow up fuckin downtown buildings you dont see that happening and fuckin obama is throwin the cold shoulder like he dont know what the fuck is happening his ass has caused more economic and montery issues than g.w. bush he is goddamn discrase to the US and i feel sorry for all the people that voted for him cuz he lied. hell he is in office just to play goddamn golf cuz pebble beach wont let a none famous muslim on there grounds too much of a libilty their worried the 18th hole with blow up AND ANY1 THAT DISAGREES WITH ME NEEDS TO GET HIT IN THE HEAD BY A SHOVEL CAUSE YOU ARE A DUMBASS
gman, you made me laugh. Of course anyone who says “get some knowledge” and then says “us as a society” in the very next sentence is hysterical. That would be “We”. Regardless, turn of MSNBC, get yourself a few books, or do some real research. At the very least learn that you can respect the rights of others to own guns, lawfully, and then they will respect your choice not to. If you are nice and respectful, maybe they will help you with their guns, should an occasion come up when such help is needed.
After all, there are very clear incidents in history to show what happens when Governments get out of control and one within the last 100 years that demonstrate that the first thing they do is take away your ability to defend yourself, ADEQUATELY against what they will use to do so.
Wonder how your dog will do against an armed robber, btw? Do you not like dogs? I think I like my dog enough to protect him too.
This first comment is for GMan: for someone who talks knowledge,You are totally STUPID. do you really think you can protect this country,your fellow citizens,your family,and or yourself with knowledge,”NO” Knowledge of the use of weapons “YES” and brainiac Never ,Never take a knife or a dog to a Gun Fight, You will loose. also people there is an organization in Wisconsin that fights for our rights to keep and bear arms every moment of everyday,and they are Jewish, instead of pointing fingures at races or religins,find out how YOUR elected officials are voting and which ones are not living up to their Oath Of Office and get them out of office .”WE the PEOPLE” have that power vote them out, NOW. Thanks for listening. Rick ZimmermanN Patriot of the United States.
did nobody see the cover of time or life or whatever magazine that showed pictures of the clinton daughter getting married?
i saw it in the checkout isle in the supermarket
she was being married to a guy in a yarmulke. if they arent themselves crypto-jews they are at least very heavily into jewish matters to find themselves with one for a son in law.
Whatever Hillary C is, or is not, in terms of “religion” (she worships power), I will tell you what she IS – -radical, socialist, Anti-American witch. She should be placed under military arrest, with bo, accused of high crimes and TREASON against the USA! Bo and ALL his co-conspirators should be hauled before a US military tribunal; if justice is served, they will all be convicted and stood up before a US military firing squad. This action, alone, would be the strongest possible message to send the UN and anyone else who thinks they want to mess with the USA!
Clinton is a Jew boot licker.
Oh, and btw, tell turkey to bring it on! Israel only exists because when the Ottoman empire was divided, Britain got Jordan and Palestine, enabling Israel to come into/return to existence. If the Turks could hold onto an empire Israel wouldn’t exist. The Turks even lost control of Greece. So I would suggest that Turkey ride their camels on a trail of hash smoke to the fucking moon and colonize that place for awhile. The Allies will take that away from you too.
See what happens when you fuck with Greeks?
Never talk about your guns online. Big Brother is watching. OH, and I am half Greek, and I saw my heritage disrespected up there^ by a Jew? ROFL Motherfucker! You have room to talk? And you say we Greeks screw donkeys? Being half Greek, I guess I only qualify for a half a piece of ass?
At least I’m straight. You Jews are running the biggest Homosexual racket in the world. Even people on OTHER PLANETS are ashamed of you.
AND NO, I’M NOT ANTISEMITIC. I’M ANTI YOU!!!!!!!!
BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yes people rob people everyday! As if thats not common knowledge too….I mean really, are you just some dumb city slicker? If you lost everything today, would you know how to do anything to survive? Not everyone is as privilaged as you and can afford to buy everything. Ugh people like you are what has ruined this country, not the people who are actually waking up and fighting for their rights, those are the people with real wisdom. Your pathetic!
O and I’m sure a knife will do a lot of good when the person your protecting yourself from has a gun and uses it before you can even lift your pathetic knife up to do anything. Sorry but I’m not for giving up any rights. Its my life and there are always going to be people killing people, no matter what the weapon. So you expect the law abiding citizens to give up guns, while the people who obviously don’t care about laws in the first place obtain them illegally (surprise, surprise) and use them on unarmed law abiding citizens. Wow sounds like you have a lot of knowledge. Glad your reading books that teach you so much about what life is really like and how people really are.
GMAN- you talk about getting knowledge not guns. Why can’t you have both? I believe its common knowledge that the right to bear arms is our second ammendment correct? BTW, yes there are actually people who till use weapons to obtain food in the U.S. There are some people who like to support themselves and be self sufficient which is by far the greatest knowledge anyone can have. When shtf I will be laughing at pathetic idiots like you that can’t even survive without someone coddling your every move. As far as not being robbed, in this economy you see it more and more in the rougher areas, but clearly you must not be a part of the real world. You really think an alarm can stop someone? Ha ha, what a joke, its just a noise, it does nothing in time to save you when bad people do bad things. Yes there are bad people out there doing bad things still, so I wouldn’t say we are just living in fear, we are learning from fear. I guess you could say we are gaining “knowledge” of what humans who cant do anything for themselves are like. They take instead of work for it. I bet your pretty good at that.
Thankfully Clinton has no authority. Plus the un is not a soveien nation so no treaty u.s. Makes with the un is binding. On top of that the senate which has to ratify treaties can only ratify those which they have authority. They do not have authority to over-ride the constitution, which also makes the treaty null and void.
I have a simple question for all. Has anyone here ever looked into the historical records to see if old Gorge Washington abided by the time frame for taking his oath of office posting to government? And was that a oral oath..or a written one? I read a law analysis that “we the people”.. those of us working here in what is supposed to be America and not “We the People”…since that document was signed..by so many landed..Attorneies of the KING.
Esquires…ESQ.
ya! GUNS GUNS GUNS! ya lets go out and get a bunch of guns and not do anything with them! you guys are just stupid that’s all. Why don’t you invest in knowledge, not guns and us as a society will advance much further. You guys are holding civilization back as much as Christians did for 2000 years. What are guns used for besides hunting anyways? Do you have people robbing you every day? Here’s a cheaper solution: get an alarm system…or maybe even a dog and a knife. Instead of taking a life, change one. You are all about fear and shit, well we wouldn’t have to be afraid if others didn’t have guns or the people who do are certified. You can’t make the argument that guns are good for anything except protecting your right. Honestly, I want all of you lunatics to go to Texas and secede. Then you can have all of your gun laws, anti-progressive laws, anti-minority laws, and anti-tax laws and see how far you get. Or should i say more tax laws as they’ve gone down since Obama took over.
gman, ignorance like yours is only tantamount to the shallacking assholes like you are going to get when you come try to take guns. The very civilization you have the privilage of living was built by Christians and for 2000 years have been at the forefront of every benevolent movement throughout history. We have had our violent ones too however misguided. Islam is all about violence as stated throughout their Koran. I have fought for this country in six different actions. How many have you done? From the sounds of your post, let me answer that for you:NONE!! You are probably part of that sorry crowd that does not pay any taxes and gets welfare. Hell you probably don’t even do your own F#$#ing. Always putting your responsibility on someone else and relying on your government to do everything for you. By the way dogs are for the warning and a knife is only a backup for when I run out of ammo. I prefer using a sharpened ice pick for the eye and into the brain myself.
Who is going to take our guns the National Guard? 3/4 of them will leave because they believe as we do. In other words the Guard is BUBBA!
The only ones that will take on the job of trying to disarm the people are the ones that think like you. Most of whom are too cowardly to do so and if they were to try would have their brains scattered on my jacket. (I like to work close). God Bless America and Have a nice day…
gman-Wake up and smell the coffee- -anyone “breaking in” will cut your electric and phone lines – -so much for the alarm system! If you have a German Shepard, Rottweiler, or other “attack dog”, the invader(s) will kill, or subdue it! You don’t, necessarily, have to “shoot-to-kill”, but damn well better be able to aim well enough to “disable”! And depending on the area you live in, like a “gated, protected, community”, maybe you don’t have to “worry”! A lot of other people do!
Sam-Thanks for a “new” idea – -I never thought of the ice pick-other than for chipping ice and use as a “small pointy tool” for hobby work!!! Our “attack dog” is a Standard Poodle and she’d just “lick you to death” – -so we have to protect her, too!
You aren’t taking guns from anyone, socialist filth
First off, she didn’t “sign” the treaty. She has no authority to do so. It has to be ratified by the Senate and signed by the President. Obama and his gang of gun-grabbers have a long way to go.
America will be totally subdued without a single shot ever being fired. The New International Order is aware of citizen firepower and will act accordingly. BTW, I’m a bitter clinger and I believe it’s better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
She can sign whatever she wants. It’s not worth the paper it’s written on until it’s ratified, and if anyone thinks the U. S. is going to infringe on its citizens’ right to have and bear arms, think again.
I am 100% behind Hillary on this one!
89,798,617 legitimate gun owners didn’t murder anyone last week
It’s you moonbat libtwats that blame the ice cream spoon for being a fatazz.
Last I checked, us 89 million gun owners have zero tolerance for our rights being infringed upon.
Back the F*** up, Moonbat
Linda Vaitkus you have never read the Problems Australia is having on Gun Control and Crime. When you take away the guns from citizens, Crime does not go down, it goes up!
Switzerland is the safest place in the world because everyone has a gun, they give them to you when you are a citizen, and teach you how to use them. HA!
if u hate guns so much why do u live in america?
FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!
Linda-You’ve been horribly misled and misinformed, somewhere along the way! “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people” and if our gunrights are taken away we will have no means to protect ourselves and our loved ones, but the “criminals will still have the guns”! This is the same way other peaceful, law abiding countries have been “overcome and overpowered” by illegal, criminal, rogue governments; just go back to your history books and check out the “Third Reich”, for starters! So – -when the taliban, islamists, commie/marxist/fascists come for you – -how will you protect yourself and your family???
Stop calling each other names, folks. Never mind who we are descended from, we are all AMERICANS. We can only be free if we ENFORCE freedom. We will always be confronted with radicals who want to take our freedoms away. We must resist them to the infinite degree, with bullets if necessary. We must work together at this. Hopefully, the only “bullets” we have to fire are VOTES at the polls. We freedom loving Americans are at war with evil forces. We must conquer them.
CB is a wanna-be cop. His post doesn’t even make sense, he possibly is a wetback mexican. I have a Dillon XL 650 and lots of brass, powder and primers.
Ignore my last post. I thought CB was talking about me, that’s why it didn’t make any sense.
Oh and CB, get out of our lands.
You are a Shemite, descended from Shem. This site is for Japhethites.
Iranian, Turks and Jews are all the same people.
You are Asiatic.
Get lost, you and Lucifer’s Republicans and Dems can go be in your filthy sin together in Asia.
We are going to be set free.
Patrick, u r wrong on the Iranians. Iranians actually non-Arabs, real Aryan originated people. Otherwise, Turks as ancient Khazars same as the Jews.
RugerNiner, I agree with you.
That is a lot of guns, enough to supply your own squad.
You can only fire two at once? -lol
I am working on more ammo, the South lost because no one would supply, or could supply them.
I have an M-4 and a Glock 23, Night Vision, and Balistic vest with plates.
But ammo, we all cannot afford to have any less then 250,000 rounds per person just to start with. And Im afraid I have much less then this.
I am trying to work on this weakness.
Then again – you’re a Greek – hmmm you guys can’t even pay your bills. What losers – don’t look now but Turkey just may kick your ass – AGAIN! Go bang a donkey – hmmm that would be incest for you! Idiot.
Clinton is a jewess. Jews were up to now the problem of America. And now thanks to America are the problem of our world.
I have 7 AR-15’s, 2 Ak-47’s, 2 SKS’s and a M1 Garand plus thousands of rounds of ammo. No one is taking my guns or any other Red-Blooded Americans guns. :-D
Pennsyvania, USA
Thats why we have to stock up now, afte rthey ban the sale of the weapons, get plenty for freinds and family… soudns liek th govt is gonna end up trying to pull some nazi like shit.
We have to have the ability to defend our self’s no matter what the threat is, we have rights and matter what true Americans will continue to exercise them even if made illegal.
RugerNiner-Do NOT broadcast that info and, for Heaven sakes, find a “safe” place to hide them, that’s easily accessible to you! “Hiding in plain sight” is the best way to go.
Thanks for snpeding time on the computer (writing) so others don’t have to.
Think so keyboard commando? This Jew is a Reoublican, retired law enforcement, and a veteran. I am an avid gun collector and would gladly love you to tell me to my face what you wrote here – safely behind a computer. You’re an ignorant, obviously undereducated, and easily swayed by misinformation. So you don’t like us, then go praise Allah you putz!
Hillary Clinton is NOT a “jewess”. She is a Methodist. Not the same thing at all.
another Jew hater? We need to Love God’s chosen the Bible is Clear!!