In what is being described as one of the most astounding power grabs in modern history by newspaper headlines around the World, President Obama has succeeded in his audacious plan to remake America into a full fledged godless communist empire barely one year into his term with the enactment into law by the US Congress of his mammoth health care plan innocuously named H.R. 3200-Americas Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 and described by one Kremlin legal expert as having “nothing at all to do with health, but everything to do with control.”
To fully grasp the full and grim implications of Obama’s power grab over the American people with his Nationalization of the United States entire health care industry and student loan programme accomplished with the passing of this new law, it must be remembered that since taking office on January 20, 2009 he has also taken over their automobile, mortgage, and banking industries too with the Internet said being next “in his sights”.
More insidious than these takeovers that have been destroying America’s once vibrant capitalistic system is the new regime these once free peoples are now destined to live under, and where under their new health care law will require all of them to carry a National ID card (page 58) and allow their government unlimited access to all of their bank accounts and personal records (page 159).
And in a chilling instance of the ancient prophecies for these time of “The Mark of the Beast” becoming reality, the National ID card all of the American people will now be required to possess (regardless of age) is to be combined with their new government ID card under their upcoming new immigration laws allowing them to work and is biometrically designed to “read” the backs of their hands.
[Note: According to the Christian Bibles Book of Revelations, the ancients warned of a future time when everyone, both small and great, rich and poor, free or slave, would receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads which without they would not be able buy or sell anything.]
Though many have tried to warn these Americans about the plans for their Nations destruction at the hands of the Obama backed communist forces who have taken over their country [including our March 2nd report “Russia Warns US Communist Threat Endangering Entire World”] the propaganda organs in the United States have rendered silent nearly all opposition and dissident views from reaching them and they remain asleep to the true dangers soon to come upon them.
The same, however, cannot be said about the rest of the World where during this past week alone, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon signed a cooperation agreement with a Russia-led security group of ex-Soviet Nations as a counterbalance to the US led NATO forces (who are currently expanding their wars against the Muslim Nations to steal their vast oil and gas wealth) and one of China’s top military officers called for his Nation to build the World’s strongest military and move swiftly to topple the United States as the Global “champion.”
To how ignorant the American people have become to the yoke of communist oppression being pressed upon them by Obama’s forces we can glimpse from a report in today’s Los Angeles Times that says “The Democratic administration of Barack Obama, who denounced his predecessor, George W. Bush, as the most secretive in history, is now denying more Freedom of Information Act requests than the Republican did.”
And as to why Obama and his communist forces would seek to keep from the American people what is really being done to them we had, also, previously warned about in our February 12th report “The “End Of Days” Are Upon Us, Warns Russian Patriarch” and wherein we had stated:
Now most important to remember about these ancient enemies of our human race Obama and his communist forces have aligned themselves with is how truly predictable they are; including the United States passing of their health care bill during the 2010 Vernal (Spring) Solstice [when daytime and nighttime are equal length] as a “celebration” to the ancient goddess Ēostre whose name was given to the Christian festival of Easter but whose origins stretch back into the mists of time to the mystery religions of Rome where the Cybele cult preformed their child sacrifices on what was then known as Vatican hill, but today is known as the home of the Pope.
And in these monsters predictability by aligning themselves with the ancient dates and ceremonies of old also comes the most secure protection from their destructive plans; such as the United States March 4, 2001 airing of the Lone Gunman television programmes pilot episode where an American government plot to fly remotely controlled planes into the World Trade Center was discovered, and which was exactly 6 months and 7 days from when the actual attack occurred.
It goes without saying, of course, that the propaganda media organs beholden to their godless communist masters will never inform their peoples about these things, and for those of us who do there is always great danger. But as the events in the United States are now showing to even those most in denial about what is truly happening, the time nears when hard choices will have to be made by everyone if freedom for our human race is to be saved.
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No the government NOW tells us on what we must spend our money on. That is communist.
And the Gov hasn’t been for the last 60 years???? Where do you think the money comes from to pay for schools, roads, police, fireman, hospitals, the armed forces, subsidies to Africa, India, Israel and other 3rd world countries. Somehow that’s not the Gov telling you where to spend your money? If someone does not have children, then why do they have to pay their tax dollars to public education? Because the Gov says they do!!! Do you get a say so about registering your vehicle? No, you don’t because the law the Gov created, which is telling YOU how to spend YOUR money! But, with all that, somehow health care is turning it all into communism??? WOW! How ignorant can you people be. Frank, congrats…..you’re truly a TOOL!!! Really think about bullshit you want to spew out of your mouth before it leaves your feeble mind!
Sad truth is, you will get only 1/2 of your pay check to spend on what you want to, because our socialistic government will require the other half. I left West Germany 32 years ago for just that reason. We need a restructuring of government for a long time, but we never before being strong armed by people who are supposedly represent us to embrace more government forced heath insurance or anything else for that matter. There is no more common sense in government. May be this was needed to get us back on course and reestablish government, ditch the unions, get an education for our children and learn to be more financially responsible. Election day Nov 2nd 2010!
Um, not sure how you figure this particular part of what you are saying. The government does decide this, yes, but it is the State government, not the federal government. As far as registering your car, you don’t have to register your car. However, then you don’t get to drive it. You don’t have to buy auto insurance, if you don’t drive. See how that works?!?!?!
The problem is that the federal government is now saying where you MUST spend your money or get a fine. That is the beginning of communism, and the end of this nation.
By that same logic, the federal government forcing you to spend money on food and drug safety (or face a fine by ignoring the regulations) is also the beginning of communism. Personally, I quite like the government preventing people from selling me cocaine as a “headache cure” and hardly see this as a threatening activity.
Also, by your logic I HAVE to buy health insurance. You claim you must buy auto insurance if you operate a vehicle (implying it is mandatory to offset the risks incurred). However, if I am alive then I am already incurring risks, not only to myself but also to the people around me (spread of disease, lost productivity, etc). By your reasoning, I am required to offset those risks by buying health insurance.
See how that works?
Elsid’s logic is thus:
If you drive, law says you must buy auto insurance.
If you do not drive, law does not require you to buy auto insurance.
Law permits you choice to drive or not drive.
Thus, the law permits you choice to buy or not buy auto insurance.
Her logic does not apply to your questionable leap of logic.
In a worst case scenario, the same logic should still apply, however.
If you use health care you must purchase health insurance.
If you do not use health care you are not required to buy health insurance.
The law should not require you to use or not use health care.
Thus the law should not require you to purchase or not purchase health insurance.
In other words, under this logic, if you decide not to use the health care system, you do not need to buy health insurance. And a corollary to that would be that if you decide not to purchase health insurance you may not use the health care system.
However, this logic has one flaw. It is possible to self-insure in the area of auto insurance. It should also be possible to self-insure in health care. In other words, if I elect to not carry health insurance, I should still be able to access whatever health care I can afford to pay for out of my own pocket.
The purpose of any insurance vehicle is to protect the insured against catastrophic financial loss. However, the government should not be permitted to force a person to protect against risks, so long as the person is willing to live with the consequences.
Ian, this hc bill is far encompassing than just mandating we purchase insurance, which is outrageous at the face of it, but it also gives the govt real time access to your bank account, in home govt visits to control how you raise your children, and a whole host of other very undesirable things. The hc bill in its entirety is Totalitarian. Either fight it with the rest of us or enjoy your slavery.
Sorry you are not correct on all of your “fact” – car insurance is NOT required in ALL states…and the key there is (as Elsid pointed out very appropriately) the STATE sets the car insurance requirement.
i live in Massachusetts where health insurance is mandated, it does not work, unless your goal is to put the state/country into deeper debt. How about you look at how Massachusett’s mandated health insurance has effected the state’s financial picture before deciding it’s a grand idea for the entire country, because trust me, you have no idea what debt is if you think we are already in massive debt (which we are!)
FUCK OFF “YOU’RE A TOOL!” AMERICAN COMMUNIST ASSHOLE. People just like you are the reason we have a fucking terrorist in the white house. I will see you kicking and screaming when obamas army comes kicking your door down after the take away your gun rights.
You’re a fucking IDIOT!!! Communist? Does the government tell us what jobs we should have? How much we get paid? Where to live? Suppress any kind of free speech? Obviously not! Idiots, like you, who stretch and obscure facts to support their own delusions, have a platform to do so because America is a Democracy!!! Trying to mask this “movement” as coming from the EU is another fucking JOKE. The title of your horseshit column is a complete JOKE. “World Mourns As Communist Darkness Falls Upon America”??? Really? The only mourners are dumb fucking idiots, like yourself, who wish that America was still the repressive country!
Who is the tool??? You don’t know what America is? We are NOT a democracy fool! We are suppose to be a REPUBLIC! Democracy = socialism!
Actually, a republic is a proper subset of democracy. A republic is a government indirectly controlled by the people (for example, by representative democracy), so America is still a democracy. It’s a different word that means the same thing.
You would be correct to say we are not a direct democracy, though.
And no, democracy does not equal socialism :roll: The point of a democracy (direct or representative) is to give people some power over government policy, whether it be socialist, liberal, anarchist, communist, islamic, or otherwise.
Furthermore, the affordable health choices act doesn’t even come near communist policy. It could be considered socialist, but about as socialist as other national policies that take your money and spend it on things you may never use: back country roads, law enforcement, weapons of mass destruction, the military, emergency relief, etc.
Socialism isn’t inherently evil, socialism is not communism, and the average American takes advantage of socialist programs every time they drive.
If you want to discuss the policy then discuss it on practical terms, not ideological terms, because ideological boundaries aren’t as clean cut as the media makes you believe.
Actually, America is a Constitutional Republic. That means we are not a ruled by a majority, but ruled by law. Big difference. Socialism is inherently evil in that it destroys man’s desire to be responsible for his own actions and for his personal success or failure.
Well that’s exactly where we are headed then! Straight into socialism.
Quite inacurate! Nothing could be further from the truth! Did you read nothing of the founding of this nation? A Republic is a government based on the notion that certain inalienable rights come from God – that they are not granted by men to each other, or by one class of men to another, and that those rights are not to be trampled upon except with God’s wrath. The only thing that a republic has in common with a democracy is in it’s system of voting – which the founders did their best to limit; ie only propertied males over the age of 25 could vote. And as for your comments regarding this healthcare debacle not being communistic in nature – have you never read Marx??? Even Marx said that Socialism is a wattered down version of Communism. But you are right about one thing – you are being practical! Alas, it is always the practical man who is looking for comfort and expediency, while the idealogical man is looking for virtue.
will siad
Socialism is not evil? have you ever lived in a socialist country? how good can it be for the government to take your money and lots of it, imagine you work very hard so you can have a better life for your family and yourself, then the government comes and takes a massive chunk and gives it to those that do not work as had as you do, so they can live as well as you do, because it’s not fair that you live better then they do, thats not evil? to me and those that value our hard work believe that is evil.
The derogatory terms and the gutter language you use only serve to make you appear ignorant.Civilized people can disagree without stooping to such a level. You are also misinformed. The United States Of America is not and never has been a democracy.The founding fathers set up this government as a representitive republic and were utterly opposed to democracy rule, due the distinct probability of mob rule.I recommend you read “America the Last Best Hope” by Wm. Bennett.
I hate to repeat myself, but a republic is actually a proper subset of democracy. A republic is a government indirectly controlled by the people (for example, by representative democracy), so America is still a democracy. It’s a different word that means the same thing.
You would be correct to say we are not a direct democracy, though.
Heh, and while we have avoided “mob rule”, it seems we have not avoided an oligarchy. America has been stuck in a two-party system led by elitists for a long time, but we keep buying into it, especially when they each pool their money to buy our hearts and minds.
The reason we are stuck in a two party system is there are only two sides to an argument. You pick the one you believe in more. Other parties just split the vote against the one more tailored to your beliefs. You will never find a political movement you agree with 100% unless you area robot.
You just used one of the most basic logical fallacies as a core political theory.
There’s only two sides to an argument? Either/Or huh?
So, either I think murder is bad or it’s good. Well, what about accidents, self-defense, premeditation, State Executions. Should drugs be legal or illegal? Well, one side says they should all be illegal cause they’re used recreationally and the other side says they should be taxed and sold like booze. Well, what about me? I say the Government has no claim over my body and therefore has no authority to dictate what I do with it so long as I’m not hurting another person or their property. What side do I pick since neither one knows what the hell they’re talking about?
You see, that’s the main advantage this System has over people – they’re not thinking clearly.
You get to pick one out of two people that have been pre-approved by a National Political Party. WOW! THAT’S FREEDOM!
Oh, and there is a political movement I agree with 100%. Voluntarism. No man, Government or otherwise, has any authority over me until I hurt another human or their property or use fraud in my contracts. Those two principles are the basis of criminal and civil law.
Other than that, I am a Free Man and all my dealings are to be based upon my consent.
Government operates off the threat of deadly force – EVERYTHING they do is backed with the implicit threat that you will be shot if you do not comply. YAY! THAT’S FREEDOM TOO!
Then they get two political parties that are wholly controlled by the system each promising that Government is GOOD and can do GREAT things if you just let it. They then sell you their woo about this policy and that, this person and that, this procedure and that. Meanwhile, if a man wishes to just be left alone to live his life, well, they’ll MURDER HIS FAMILY AND TRY TO MURDER HIM. You could ask Vicki Weaver if that’s true but she got shot in the face with a .308 Winchester while holding her baby by an FBI Agent who received two weeks paid vacation as a punishment. This is because the laws specifically exempt them while on “Official Duty”. That means shooting a woman in the face is “Official Government Duty”. YAY GOVERNMENT!
Wonderful, this system that we’ve allowed to develop.
Hey, Dude, chill out! It appears that YOU are the one that does not know what he is talking about. America is supposed to be a Republic, Constitutional Republic to be precise, and NOT a “democracy”. The founders were VERY careful to avoid the term as a “democracy” is simply mob rule. OTOH, a republic has representatives of the people to decide the “will” of his/her constituents and express that sentiment accordingly. Bone up on this a bit before you accuse others of being an idiot. Drop the “f” bombs, too. It makes you appear ignorant.
I’ve already gone over this twice, so I’ll be punctual:
A republic (or constitutional republic) IS a democracy, or to be precise, a “representative democracy”, but it is not a “direct democracy”.
Ian, thank you for your succinct (brief; to the point) if not punctual (timely; on time) statement, it’s a shame that you had to repeat it three times for inattentive readers.
You’re the idiot! To not see what is happening to our country takes an absolute moron! Obama is changing this once free Nation into a Marxist Government. Obviously you lack the vocabulary to adequately express yourself, and also, the education to see what is obvious to anyone that takes the time to look.
Actually, a Marxist government subscribes to Marxism, which dictates a country must rise up in revolution, seize all private property, and convert it into collective ownership.
Our government is not mandating this and hence does not qualify to be a Marxist government. In fact, our constitution legally forbids it, so it’s not possible without further amendments.
There is a big difference… and it is obvious which is which….
A form of government in which power is explicitly vested in the people, who in turn exercise their power through elected representatives. Today, the terms republic and democracy are virtually interchangeable, but historically the two differed. Democracy implied direct rule by the people, all of whom were equal, whereas republic implied a system of government in which the will of the people was mediated by representatives, who might be wiser and better educated than the average person. In the early American republic, for example, the requirement that voters own property and the establishment of institutions such as the Electoral College were intended to cushion the government from the direct expression of the popular will.
where do you think were going!!!!
American is suppose to be, as in, “I suppose(presume/assume) he will go”? Ignorant illiterate fool!! It’s SUPPOSED to be a Republic is correct. In theory America is a republic. However, due to the Patriot Act, the USA is no longer a Republic….for which is stands, due to the lack of any legal safeguards, which have been removed and circumvents the constitution under “the Act”.
Democracy: lacking any legal safeguard of the rights of The Individual and The Minority
Republic: under a written Constitution safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority
This fear mongering you all do is somewhat assuming and comical. You’re right in line with all other conspiracy theorist. well, guess what, 9/11 was NOT an inside job, JFK was shot by only one person and Obama was born in the USA. Why don’t all of you go blow Glenn Beck. I know you’d both enjoy it! :-D
The way you talk shows how uninformed you are. It shows how much you are indoctrinated by your teachers and proves to me, that the article from the EU is right. Sorry we as informed Americans have to read through your foul lingo to try to get your point of view. Be glad you still have the right to express your opinion however you wish, because YOUR leaders will not let you do that much longer, because they don’t want to hear what the people they supposed to represent have to say.
Come now, the “You’re indoctrinated!” vs “No, YOU’RE indoctrinated!” game isn’t worth playing. We should have moved past this after high school at the latest (and I’m talking about both of you – Beate Smock and “You’re a TOOL”).
You’re a tool, your name fits you well. Are you one of those idiots watching American Idol and the Simpsons instead of world events? We are sliding slowly into COmmunism and 40% of this country is starting to see it now. Hopefully you will also!
It’s funny, actually- I’ve worked in media planning and advertising. The two shows you mentioned get high bipartisan engagement from viewers (especially American Idol), but are actually skewed slightly towards Republicans.
Heh, speaking of advertising: you have no clue much control a couple million dollars can buy. I’ve watched sales figures soar as a campaign rolls across all the different delivery options we have, and similarly, I’ve watched an entire town (well, we call them metro areas) switch opinions to the tune of emotional imagery.
You can’t possibly imagine how correct you are to say “this country is starting to see it now” – because once you see it, you seem to believe it, and that’s how I made my money back in the day *sigh*
Well, that explains it then. You are one of the whores who chose to manipulate public opinion with lies so you could take home the big bucks. As Dante said, the hottest part of hell is being reserved for you.
How much we get paid? Yes. What jobs we should have? Watch for the coming doctor shortage and the exodus of doctors from the profession. Suppress free speech? Are you kidding? Of course the PC patrol sees to this, a complete double standard on for example terroristic threats to politicians. Contrast the Bush years to now.
What would you call a country that dispite the people’s protest passed two major bills anyway (the bail out and now health care). It is certainly not a democracy in which the people are represented. I would lean more towards dictatorship, in which leaders say I don’t care what you want, we will do it anyway. Which by the way Obama himself said. I’m all for health care reform, but not like this. No health care bill should require this much paperwork. If you go out and by private insurance, your “contract” with them would at max spand over a hundred pages, and you would still be surprised what it encompassed. What in the world have they included in over a thousand pages. This was suppose to be a tax covered program it which the capable tax payers would provide care for all, only fair. We should help those who can’t help themselves, but what the hell does the government need with your banking account information? More sadly, why doesn’t this bother you. This was nothing more than a distraction to cause the American people to fight with one another while the powers that be accomplished something else, something bigger. And we fell for it, and we fell hard. We need to stop fighting because of particular party differences, its not democrat versus republican. It’s those who are abusing their power versus the American people as a whole.
This was suppose to be a tax covered program it which the capable tax payers would provide care for all, only fair. We should help those who can’t help themselves — EXCUSE ME ???? who are YOU to decide to spend MY money on someone who REFUSES to work. i’m not talking about someone who CANNOT work due to disability but REFUSES to work because the work is BENEATH THEM. the hell with that crap. open YOUR OWN CHECKBOOK AND LEAVE MINE ALONE. so let me ask this. if i quit working are YOU going to pay for my food – i REALLY prefer steak, prime rib, lobster, rent, vehicle – i would really enjoy a mercedes benz to the truck i can currently afford, movie nights private screenings are really nice – i haven’t been able to afford this to date but i’m sure if i’m leeching off everyone else i can, medical care oh there are DEFINITELY some elective procedures i would like to have, clothes hmmm haven’t thought about buying new ones for quite a while since it wasn’t in the budget, etc etc etc. so why should i work if no one else is? THAT is what is going on. they want to TAKE TAKE TAKE from those who ARE working to give to those who WILL NOT work. in the end, those who ARE working then figure why bother when it just gets taken away. the roman empire fell exactly this way. force ME to give MY hard-earned money to some lazy so-and-so so THEY can sit on their butts and do nothing????? NOT!!!!!!!
As stated by Osama Bin Laden… “We will destroy the US from inside out”. What part of that don’t you understand??? I wish idiots like this fool above would be put away into a hearse. OBAMA is a TERRORIST! WAKE THE FUCK UP AMERICA! WAKE THE FUCK UP NOW! Sure asshole, give it a couple years and they will tell you what job to work, they will tell you how much you are paid and where to live, etc. Is this clear American Communist ASSHOLE?
They have already started to dictate what people are allowed to earn. You seem to have forgotten the Pay Czar, diligently dictating the payrolls of some pf our larger corporations.
A random video clip of the late osama and a ‘translation’ from another human being on that clip should give you a clue the ‘destroying’ has ALWAYS been from the inside.
America WAS too great and they had to do SOMETHING about her….. enter the federal reserve…. and the rest is history…
You’re a fucking tool! We’re NOT a Democracy we’re a REPUBLIC. You don’t even know what type country you live in and you run your fucking mouth like YOU have the answers. You present a self defeating argument too. Let’s take a look:
– Does the government tell us what jobs we should have? What jobs dumb ass? I’m guessing your a college student. The economy is in the tank.
– How much we get paid? Yes. Just ask the medical profession, the Financial industry and the Banking industry. Where the fuck have you been the last year? Have you not heard, the GOVERNMENT dictates the salaries and bonuses of top executive. What the fuck do you call that asshole?
– Where to live? Only a matter of time…
– Suppress any kind of free speech? Okay, another answer for you. It’s called the “Fairness” Doctrine. Who do think is attempting to push that on us??? I would call that suppression of free speech on the grandest scale. If you don’t know what it is (which I doubt) Google it
Like I said I see you as indoctrinated college grad who sees the world through shit stained glasses. You last sentence showed the world what a stupid fucking idiot you really are.
– The only mourners are dumb fucking idiots, like yourself, who wish that America was still the repressive country! A repressive country? What a moron you are. Why don’t you educate yourself about America. Please. You really don’t have a clue.
:roll: How much more effective your statements would have been without the profanity. However my opinion might affect your free speech and your expressiveness. Otherwise…good job!
Its coming my friend
Hey TOOL – The government DOES want to tell us how much money we make, just ask the recipients of bonuses in the financial sector. Free speech is not repressed, yet – but the democrats sure are pushing for the “Fairness Doctrine”; which equates to an attempt to move even more media to the left (because having the majority of print media in their back pocket is not enough apparently).
But I agree, Obama is not a Communist, he is however most certainly a socialist (as is Nancy Pelosi) – don’t run from the truth, just accept that you support a socialist’s agenda to bring “equality” to all Americans. That equality is in the form of socialism my friend.
Since Obama has been president,the government has taken over GM, telling the people there how much they will get paid, and firing many upper level management personnel. So YES, it IS telling some people where they will work and how much they will be paid. As for supression of free speech, perhaps the best example of this, is Harry Reid’s locking the door to keep the Republican members of the Senate out of his back-door deals. And just for the record, America is NOT a democracy, never has been, wasn’t intended to be. The USA is A REPUBLIC, and there is QUITE a difference.
You will never make your point (whatever it is ) with such foul mouth profanity. Try some mouthwash before your next post.
You are misinformed! America is a republic. No were in the constitution does the word democracy exist or does it exist in each state’s constitution. Please educate yourself before you make yourself look more foolish than you did with your comment.
You are misinformed! America is a ‘republic’. No where in the constitution does the word ‘democracy’ exist or does it exist in each state’s constitution. Please educate yourself before you make yourself look more foolish than you did with your comment. Maybe you will be able to have an intellectual conversation or debate with your fellow comrades.
BTW. If you have to use profanity and spew hatred to make your point, will automatically shows us your ignorance on the subject.
America is Republic not a Democracy. We are becoming far too repressive but we will start changing that come November. I never thought I would see the gov’t force me to buy something, which I will not do. If you want a nanny taking care of you go to Europe or better yet Cuba. Good day!
The government ALREADY tells where to live: Mayor Bing in Detroit is contracting to bulldoze over 25% of the city and will move any remaining residents of these areas out via the new interpretation of the Eminent Domain law (Detroit Free Press). The White House has hired a Special Master to oversee how much the top 50 employees of the top 50 banks in the U.S. will be paid (World Net Daily). Suppression of free speech has been called for via taking over conservative talk radio/TV shows by using socialist principles (Ed Schultz Show, MSNBC, plus the coming imposition of free speech curtailment rules by Cass Sunstein, “Communications Czar” of the Obama Administration (infowars.com). The only thing the government has NOT done yet is to tell us where we MUST work: that will be next.
Wake Up. Read Up. Listen Up.
In a word yes they are doing it right now. They are doing it by putting anybody outside the norm (thier idea of the norm) in the legal system under bullshit felonies thus barring them from employment. The beta test for doing this are: Montgomery County Maryland, Miami-Dade County Fl., and Houston (I forget the county) tX. This started under Bush and is intensifiying. What do all three of these municpalities have in common- all federalized. Yesterday while driving past 2 people waiting at a buss stop in Montgomery County (2 miles outside DC) I watched the police roll up on them and do a so-called safety patdown for no reason. Totally illegal. I have been through the same in Miami and Houston. Totally illegal. Trust me this is a oligarchial dictatorship!
Does the government tell us what jobs we should have? We’re heading towards this
How much we get paid? All doctors will be paid the same, surgeon will get same pay as family practitioner (result+shortage of doctors)
Where to live? yes, result from redistribution of wealth
Suppress any kind of free speech? yes, they want to enact a fairness act for talk radio (1 example)
another thing… it doesn’t happen over night, fool.
hitler, stalin , mao were all elected by the people, look what happened to all of them in a matter of a couple years
Give them TIME. They now can control our healthcare, of LACK THEREOF. And how come Obama fans can’t defend him without swearing every other word? Just curious- is it to increase your word count? As for suppression of free speech- every cartag at our local Tea party rally was recorded by the homeland defense. They will suppress in stealth- just like they make their back-room deals.
Sooo, do you have any substantial arguments to present supporting your case or are you simply going to continue being a progressive who throws insults instead of arguments?
Well, umm, yes. At least the part about how much we get paid. There is an un-elected pay czar.
You are fucking ignorant, do some real research dick fuck!
Your Ignorance blinds you,…
Sheep.
Get back in line!
(this is where you swear and call me names like an angry little boy)
Wake up man!!
Or deserve your future
Tool … He’s working on those things … you didn’t think he would tell us what jobs to have just yet … or how much we get paid (minimum wage .. rule= how much you get paid) Free speach! You mean like during the Community talks regarding the Health Plan (to which my friends attended to with signs and dialogue to protest) were not ALLOWED to ask their questions or make comments because they were against HIS bill! It’s coming … and we’ll see who the idiot is then!
Sorry man you are 100% wrong. Yes they are telling us where to work when the only sector which is gaining in employement is the government sector not the private. They are unconstitutionally forcing every American to pay for healthcare regardless of income and with no option to choose your own plan. Have you take a look at the billigerent bill that McCain and Liberman are trying to get passed? Let me ask you what would be the purpose of developing a “tactical” IRS unit who is suppied with over 2.5 million dollars worth of guns? Hvae you read the healthcare bill? Have you seen the section that discusses the loop hole which will allow the Insurance companies to still deny children with pre-exsisting conditions? Have you taken the time to read the constitution and the bill of rights? I;m not here to insult you so I hope you are not taking it that way. I see your frustration and I don’t believe that their is anyone out there that feels there shouldn’t be healthcare reform, but not at the cost of the American people. You can always tell who is going to gain from certain bills, or laws that are about ot get passed by watch the stock market days before hand. Did you see who’s stocks jumped last friday? I get that your mad but please do some reading and see what Socialism is and Communisim is and how it was implemented and desgined for the ruling elite to oppress the opposition (that would be us) into doing what they wish. Have you taken the time to read Agenda 21? Do you know anything about Goldman Sachs? What about the Federal Reserve? IRS? Did you know that both of those “Federal” institutions are about as Federal as Federal Express and yet the amount of monetary power that they have is virtually unlimited. If we are not being opressed then why are we paying back a bailout which “we” have yet to see filter into our own housing market which continues to crumble on a daily basis. I wish you all the best and please do some research and comment back.
you are obviously not a CEO
I dont see a stand alone comment option so I am going to reply to toolboy.
Anyone who hasnt read Antony Sutton needs to, so they can stop being retarded.
Just because the history books dont talk about how any of the modern wars in our supposed “age of reason” were financed doesnt mean its not important. If you dont understand that our governments operate at the behest of international financiers, then you dont understand anything.
how about pulling your head out of your ass! repressive country? what have you been reading? America saved the would in WW1, WW2, and now is doing it again against terrorism. we have liberated more people then anyone in world history.
and if you can’t see how your liberties and freedoms are being eroeded as the government grows and grows then you do not know your history, 67% of Americans did not want this government take over of our healthcare system, and did the government listen to us? NO the elitist liberal socialist ignored us, because they think they know better then we do. Ronald Reagan once said “GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE SOLUTION TO OUR PROBLEMS, GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM” how ture those words ring today. So educate yourself on what our founding fathers wanted and created here in America, you’ll be suprised to find out, we have more in common with a welfare socialist state then the Great America of our past.
When fidel castor of cuba endorses obamacare, you can bet we are off track from where we should be.
America is a Republic, with representatives, a little different then a full democracy.
Obama is a communist. He was raised and mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, and admitted communist. His closest allies are communists, Van Jones, Saul Alinsky, and others.
We are a republic not a democracy. A democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner. This idiot has no idea what American history is or the constitution. Obviously flouride, video games, an diet coke of fried his brain cells.
I’ll agree with every word — if you can diagram that first sentence….
maybe just maybe WE need 2-3 years of this
SOCIAL-COMMUNIST GOV.SO you idiots can understand
what this gone do to YOU.NOW YOU CAN GO BACK TO SLEEP.
I have been waiting for this time. See my web site http://www.1stuscon.com and wait for the announcement of the organization that will restore the Republic under strict Constitutional Law, unite all “religions” and topple the Democrat and Republican Politicians and Lawyers who keep Americans in the dark while stealing from our citizens and disgracing our country with their foreign policy.
unite all “religions”…
NO thank you! I have NO desire to unit myself and my “religion” (My faith and knowledge of Yahshua the Anointed) with other “religions”. That is EXACTLY what the NWO wants.
Light has no companionship with darkness – PERIOD!
A whole new debate on separation of church / state / and the people.
In the blessed UK – churches are empty, even converted into bars! The most “fitting” building in Oxford I have seen in recent years is a mosque – truely stunning and only done with a united community. I cannot begrudge this but in some ways am envious of the strength and faith a collective can have when looking at our own “society” degenerate to a point where false promises made by government are simply allowed to be heard over and over again (by all parties).
A new system of government could be the only answer but would have to step away from the two options we here (and the US) have. How is this ever acheived when the only way to be heard is to be apart of what has weight. You have to conform and work from within. Bless independant beliefs and those who stand for election as such but this is futile.
This is a battle and history has shown how wars have often been lost by false trust or corruption with in.
Not all “politicians” are in this for themselves. No doubt this has been the case since government began. More people need to give back to the community they believe in – stand for election and if or where necessary conform – then change from within.
It is not just the politicians that need watching but the government officers who conjure up policy who need more effective scrutinization.
The world is a changing place, all has been, always will be. P.B. Shelley’s poem Ozymandias is fairly conclusive for me…
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
Every dog has his day.
Sorry, but this whole website makes Fox News actually look “Fair and Balanced”
Right on Will!
I researched this site and it is a nazi/christian web site based out of Toronto, Canada.
I’m from Germany and this does not reflect any european opinion, except for Neo Nazis.
Donna,
You along with all the other ignorant people of the West show a total lack of understanding of the historical events of our times; ancient and present. It is because of your simple-minded regurgitation of history that you cannot understand the present.
Nazis bad….pooor, pooor EDOMITE jews oppressed. And yet the ENTIRE history of the Western nations and people, as recounted by the people present at that time, PROVES YOU WRONG!
If you want to LIE about those who speak truth, and call them simply-minded names, like neo-Nazi, then be my guest. You are only showing yourself to be the fool. (An Edomite jew or a jew tool)
We already know that the jews are infiltrating this site through proxy servers; pretending to be American, Canadian or European. They are deliberately trying to silence the truth, but they will NOT win.
I have actually STUDIED history. You only regurgitate what the Edomite jews spoon feed you on the “History Channel” or jew publishing houses. (History Channel – lies told by Edomite jews as truth.)
I’ll bet there is not ONE person here who can tell me the true nationality of Stalin, Churchill, Eisenhower or Roosevelt – ALL key players in starting WWII.
I’ll give you a clue. THEY WERE ALL JEWS and I can prove it.
The NWO is not a new concept. It was hatched by the Rothschilds (EDOMITE JEWS) long before anyone here was born. At least Hitler and the Nazis tried to stop it, but all you indoctrinated souls can do is sling the word “Nazi” around as if it were some sort of insult; thus showing your ignorance.
No wonder this country and ALL the nations of the West are in such a mess.
I researched this site and….
You are a commiserate LIAR. You have never RESEARCHED a thing in your pathetic life.
Dona
Here is some more info about Jamesthejust (He even hides his identity)
The connection here is clear.
• Jamesthejust follows his GURU and spiritual idol WILLIAM FINCK THE MURDERER (14 YEARS IN JAIL).
• WILLIAM FINCK is a spiritual partner with The Nut phedophile <b Pastor-Lindstedt (spent 3 years in a nut house and 10 years in Jail for having sex with his grandchild).
• Pastor-Lindstedt , talks about his spiritual partner and Jamesthejust guru WILLIAM FINCK
“William Finck is one of the cutting edge Dual-Seedline Christian Identity scholars today, just as I’m the cutting-edge DSCI political pastor of today.”
• Pastor-Lindstedt and Jamesthejust guru WILLIAM FINCK run talkshows – quotes :
http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?14071-Pastor-Lindstedt-on-William-Finck-s-Talkshoe-Radio-Program-28Dec09
“To build a new Racial Hate Religion, advocating the genocide slaughtering some 90% of White Americans.
They are interested in building up the Dual-Seedline Christian Identity Church, into the White Man’s Racial Hate Religion. And yes, we will exterminate all the jews and niggers and beaners, but first we must exterminate the whiggers whites, the typical ‘white nigger’
Frankly, we intend to either skin alive whigger regime criminals or let them pleads guilty to the mental disorder of Piglice Testicle Eating”
The goal of the CJCC/AN is to enhance the Great Tribulation to where ONLY 5 TO 10 MILLION Whites exist on the continent when Christ returns………
JamestheJust wrote quote :
“we’ll start collecting Edomite jew heads for trophies along with the White traitors who sided with them.”
JamestheJust and his Guru main role is to weaken the Christian faith and the Church, to further destabilize the formerly Christian West and must be exterminated along with their descendants , Those facts will be exposed everywhere.
:roll: I concur with some of the statements made about ancient dieties,and the statements about the “mark”in the right hand,or fore head. Those events will transpire,make no mistake about it! However,the statement about the Russians calling the U. S. a godless country is a real stretch .
THE POWERS THAT BE JUST LOVE IT WHEN THEY SEE US DETERIORATE INTO CALLING EACH OTHER NAMES INSTEAD OF JOINING TOGETHER TO FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY. THIS IS HOW THEY WIN.
We are the living proof of the reality expressed in the Parable of the Boiled Frog. We the people have allowed a creep of socialistic/communistic removal of our authority over the past 50 years. Too few have read Any Rand’s Atlas Shrugged, and made note of the similarity in our current social and economic status in the US. We let it happen, we let Obama win the Presidency with the promise of “change, hope, and redistribution of wealth” only for those that are not productive taxpaying citizens. Now, we will have to work very hard to reverse this, possibly fatal, cancer on our nation.
You all stop bickering we are past who is right or wrong. We are in serious trouble. Other countries are aligning against us. Obama is taking over and they are set on stopping him. We are going to get caught in the crossfire if we don’t fix this.
Obama is the savior of our Nation…
its gonna bring a halt to medical advances, too. :(
Why doesn’t the EU Times do what the MSM in the US has failed to do … expose Obama for the fraud he is. Forget his birth certificate (a side issue and a useful foil for Obama supporters) he was never eligible to hold office because he was born a British citizen, not a Natural Born Citizen as is required by our Constitution.
It is in the best interest of peoples all over the world to know the truth. If it is determined that he was in office under false pretenses all legislation passed under his faux administration is MOOT and that includes ObamaCare.
A pretend President Obama places all of the citizens of the world at peril.
See:http://www.hillarynme.com/2009/01/14/to-the-international-media-a-pretend-president-obama-places-the-citizens-of-the-world-in-peril/
Also, there were many in Congress who know Obama was ineligible for office and did nothing.
See: http://www.hillarynme.com/2009/09/05/shocking-members-of-congress-allowed-obama-to-become-president-knowing-he-was-ineligible/
Kudos to yar2010, I agree and that’s what we need to do, vote them out in November 2010. It is time for America to wake up and do their research. For those of you who voted for Obama and are proud of it you have been fooled. I for one am happy to see some people have the nerve to print the truth. If we don’t stand up for our constitutional rights and act now it’s only a matter of time before we lose all our freedoms as we are well on our way to becoming a not so free nation.
For those of you who cannot refrain from using slang words to make a point you need anger management and some polishing up. Lets be adults and work together for the freedom of our nation.
Does it hurt being that stupid? I swear you have the mental capacity of a 4 year old. Obama is AMERICAN. he has a certificate to prove it. Im sorry if paperwork isnt good enough for you that shows he was born here and you require a birth certificate! its sad that racists like you can call obama out just because hes black, thats the only reason you questions his being from america isnt it? Boo hoo Mccain didnt win, why dont you go cry about it somewhere and accept that Obama is president insted of going “OMG THATS NOT FAIR I DIDNT GET MY WAY!!!!!!!!!!” Grow up.
In November 2010 the American people can vote out of office the entire House of Representatives and 1/3 of the Senate. Now that’s power and it is in the peoples’ hands every 2 years.
Yar2010, I believe the American people WANT to vote out the entire House of Representatives and 1/3 of the Senate…BUT…there’s a little problem called electronic voting machines. There was a recent article wherein some Kentucky officials got prosecuted over election fraud, teaching election workers how to rig the machines, plus buying elections. This was on a small scale; however, if it’s done in Kentucky, rest assured, it’s nationwide. Please support WE THE PEOPLE’s (organization) lawsuit, to ban all electronic voting nationwide. “WE” must get back to paper ballots! Hand counted…
I still cant believe that 8 years after the 9/11 attack, the majority of America voted for a man with a name ONE letter away from Osama…AND the middle name Hussein!!! WTF??? And when asked by the American people to produce a birth certificate, he wouldn’t… EVERYONE that voted for this man needs to be taken out of the gene pool! We dont need health care reform, we need to stop the stupid people from breeding!
:roll: Scott, you are the epitome of idiocy in this country. You people keep pointing out the “Osama” rhyme and middle name coincidence. I noticed this when I was 16 years old and laughed. Why the hell are you getting your panties in a bunch? The policies you mention don’t have a fucking thing to do with either Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein.
I “voted for this man,” and I’m damn proud of it. He’s not perfect, he has a long way to go, but this is retarded, plain and simple. It’s not policies that will destroy this country, it’s the divide that extremist fools like you create (and this goes for the leftist equivalent as well). As for stopping the stupid people for breeding, I agree. Go castrate yourself right now.
I “voted for this man,” and I’m damn proud of it.
Said the treasonous commie viper. Don’t worry the day of justice is coming and you and your ILK will have no place to hide.
Now, what’s the punishment for HIGH TREASON? Oh yeah…
Ouch, congrats James, I sooooo feel the burn. Stop speaking in metaphors and make a valid point instead of simple fear mongering and “NO U” posts, why don’tcha?
And how is simply voting for a politician treason? IF (and I speak very hypothetically when I say “if”) there is any treason, it falls on the politicians, not the voters.
Amen Scott. And Will is a perfect example of someone who needs to be taken out of the gene pool.
:-x It saddens me to think that my children and grandchildren have NO concept of what this country was founded for/about…FREEDOM! Sadly, for most of my life the general public has fallen for the deceptions broadcast by the liberal media and only by very small degrees are people beginning to realize we have been DECEIVED!
God help this nation…and God help this world…if people don’t wake up before it is too late!
Well…let me tell you folks; if America fails so will all the rest of you! We have held many countries together out of the conviction we should. Well you’re on your own now…you have wanted us to fall on our faces but don’t hold your breath….there are only 550 some odd of them in the Obama camp and millions of us and we are mad as hell and are not going to take it! This is a wonderful place, America and they are not going to do this to us without a fight…after all, that is who we are. If I were most of you who hate the US so much, stop and look at yourselves…you wear jeans, drink coke, have all our fast food places all over the world, want to be as Western as possible and want to come here in droves..the illegals in OUR country is absolutely outrageous…WE, THE REAL PEOPLE, OF THE UNITED STATES ARE AS PATRIOTIC, STRONG, STAND FOR OUR NATION AND FLAG AS WE EVER WERE…it is sad that so many have their head in the sand and still can’t believe this could happen here or are not even aware of what all is happening…but most of us do and we will fight to the death for the greatest nation in the world…we have done what no one else has or could in just over two hundred years…of course then greed set in and there are those that want God out of everything…so does the world in general but that is not how it is meant to be. We will all perish in the next World war thanks to the stupidity of those that have no sense, heart or strength, not to mention faith…God will not let this maddness go on. Get back to your churches and pray for the world because it is not us verses you or anyone else; it is each country for them selves- for if the “One World Order” gets in control no one will be free or safe!! For once in your lives stop running America down and realize that we have a madman that I liken to Hitler in Washington…he bought his way in and the evil that is trying to take America down thinks they will win but when push comes to shove we, the people, will shove right back….if we have to died fighting for freedom, liberty and the right to be we are! There are those in the world who want nothing more thatn all the power to reek havoc onall of us! No one should want anyone to be in this position…because when things happen as they are now in so many areas of the world…well something big and pretty awful is afoot…say your prayers! For all of you that we have stood by and for in your hour of need, perhaps you might stand with us the same way…if not for the US, many things would be different in the places we have gone to fight for YOUR freedoms with you!!!! God Bless America Again!
For once in your lives stop running America down and realize that we have a madman that I liken to Hitler in Washington…
Why on earth would you liken Obamanation to Hitler?
Hitler cared for his people and his country. He was one of the first to see the danger of the NWO. He threw OUT the Edomite jew banksters. That’s why the Edomite jews were screaming for war with Germany before it even began!
The Edomite jews, through their lies and deceit, turned brother against brother and the end result is what we have today. FAR from protecting the world for freedom, we are now in a deadly embrace to the Edomite jews and IS-A-REAL-LIE. The Edomite jews have been a CURSE; not a blessing. The Edomites ARE the 8th Beast of the Empire of merchants and bankers!
Hitler was a great man, but few will recognize this because they have been brainwashed by the Edomite jews through JEWdeo-vision; jew-controlled “education” (brainwashing)and JEWdeo-Anti-Christianity.
I would NEVER compare a great man like Hitler to a mamzer beast of the field, like Obamanation!
No where does it say in the Constitution that you have a right to healthcare, or a house, or a car, or a guaranteed income. Stand up on your own two feet and get it the same way the most of us did. I do not believe I should be paying for your healthcare. Already resturants plan on a surcharge on your bill to pay for their employees’ healthcare. Enough is enough. You don’t have a right to entitlements.
It is quite apparent quite a few of you have no idea of how a constitutional republic works. I would say most have been brainwashed in our “dumbing down” public school systems. I am not about to go into a lengthy explanation about how our government was designed to work. I suggest you read the Constitution and the Federalist Papers to gain an understanding, that is if you can read.
Hi …. I want to thank you for telling the truth of what is happening to my country. I have been well aware of Obama’s agenda from the very beginning, long before he decided to run for President. I also question the validity of the so-called Certificate of Live Birth. Please pray for our country that we can take back our liberty that our founding father’s fought for over 230 years ago.
I did not finish reading all the comments. It is a waste of time. Talking does not do shit for our situation, it is time for action. “We The People” need to take OUR Country back before it goes completely to hell. Our founding Fathers gave the power to the people to overturn. first step is impeach http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com
“Let us therefore animate and encourage each other, and show the world that a free man, contending for his liberty on his own ground, is superior to any slavish mercenary on earth.” George Washington, July 2, 1776
Americans are not ignorant and we did not “let” this happen. Obama was elected which is true. The Congress, however, has ignored the will of the people and have voted in favor of unconstitutional legislation despite protest. At certain points during the debate, americans jammed the congressional switchboard with 100,000 calls per hour. This is of course only one example of how we attempted to be heard. Mid term elections are looming. It’s likely the republicans will take the house and perhaps the senate as well. If that happens, they will either attempt to repeal the legislation or they’ll block funding. Numerous states (as many as 37) are filing lawsuits to challenge the constitutionality of this bill. People in the US are furious! We are not taking this quietly. This bill is not here forever. This arrogant fool of a president will not have a second term. Rest assured, americans fought for our freedom once and we’re not afraid to do it again.
:cry: It blows my mind that the ignorance, fear-mongering and flat out hatred of this article can have so much influence on rational human beings. To those of you who side with the author of this propaganda, are you really thinking for yourself??? I mean really? If I had to chose between providing health coverage to at least 32 million people in this country without it or waging bloody war against a group of people without taking the time to truly understand their animosity, I think I’d take the former. And to those of you who can see right through the stupidity of this article please, please try to stay sane and calm. I know it’s hard sometimes when you look around and you see decent people becoming uncritical, unthinking, and unfeeling zealots.
Yes I for one am thinking for myself thank you very much, my husband and I have been seeing this sort of thing coming for close to twenty years now, we just did not know it would be in our life time.
I know. It’s sad isn’t it?
Can’t say I’ve seen it coming for 20 years, but at least I woke up in time to stop drinking the Kool-Aid. (about 5 years ago) Now, let’s dig in and stop these tyrants!!
Great article….you pretty much hit th enail on the head!! There are many that are willing to die for the freedom/liberty that MOST American’s still hold dear.
“I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
Thomas Jefferson
People are really THIS CRAZY? I hope you rightwing nuts know this is SATIRE
Thank you so much for posting the truth..79 percent of all Americans did not want SOCIALIZED medicine and many don’t realize that govt. as in GOD O will now have access to all our bank accts. I’d heard about the Internet takeover being another of O’s agenda but didn’t know about cards we’d have to carry. This criminal has destroyed our Constitution and taken away our rights. He has stated that those over 60 if seriously ill, won’t get treated, for, in his mind they’ve reached their ‘expiration date.’
It’s truly sad. In Nov. most Dems running will be voted out but we have to wait longer to get rid of O and believe me he won’t win. At this point he has the lowest approval rating of any US President, ever! And why did he win, because people wanted to prove a point and give a black guy a chance.. sadly, he’s not even black but rather half and half. Am looking into moving to Grand Cayman just to not have to see his face on TV over and over everyday telling his lies to all of us. The idiot, can’t even do simple Math. He, in his first year has put our Country an additional TRILLION dollars into debt… Trillion, the new word since God O took over. We are so doomed. :( :(
You are correct Megan-but I am not giving them the right to run me out! I deal in cash-no plastic no accts for them to check on-it can be done. You can buy the plastic with cash-no name on it. My family lived through the depression and I have been taught well-Country folks will survive!!!
I don’t see what the problem is. Isn’t capitalism just privatised control, where as socialism is just government control. To be honest I would be more inclined to trust a presidan that you at least have some say in as opposed to a profiteering ceo that you ave no say in. Education, health care and other social nescessities and utilities that are demanded but today’s lifestyle should not be run as a business where power and money is the only objective.
My point is, I trust a government where pubic opinion determines its actions, more than a board of directors whose actions are determined by money and profits.
Mr. Me,
I’m going to be generous and just assume that you are naive. “I trust a government where public opinion determines its actions”?? You’re kidding, right? Both sides stopped listening to us decades ago. I am providing this article as a gift to you, because it’s time to wake up.
http://neithercorp.us/npress/?p=265
This is spot on! Take off your blinders and see the man for who he really is. RIP America!
of course coming from the EU is like the pot calling the kettle black
You all need a reality check…
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.us/CTTM2010/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_538_Revelation_from_Sage–Government_Gives_You_Personalized_Webpage_Mar222010.mp3
And Pamela…you probably have hair growing from your tits..
You are probably a tranny going through a hard time right now…since your nasty and cant get laid…your a man that looks like a woman that has a 5 oclock shadow…
Is your name Amanda Jennings, Pres. Zero’s new Commerce Department Secretary who was a man “(A-man-duh!)..who decided to be miss little sally and look like a woman?
There is a logical system to replace current system. It is nearly equal to anarchy.
We need it because:
Kapitalism=Tyrannism=Sosialism=Boss
Boss can do grimes(secretly)=he WILL
Human race must retreat back to the survival of rthe fittest. These are the times of technoLOGY so it ofcourse must be the LOGGICALLY FITTEST(see my logics?).
No system can exist if it cant 1.expand 2.have hightech and be such that bosses can treath their people.
==>Individually moralogically superior komission.. :) :)
– <– As been said its impossible to whine without being whiner(talk about this without seeming whining of boss fear??)or not for me).
It is fact that in reality(Usually they say "in long term" but I think if it will be so then it is so. It just takes time to perfect the system.) capitalism = tyranny = kommunism = somebody has boss ;P.
So I think it is just the capitalistic leaders reching their target when things really globalise and get under the same roof.
The only other option is next to anarchism.. :) :)
What are you? Some type of sadist??
As everyone has mentioned, I firmly believe also that this is a path to control on a global scale. It’s an evil nightmare that has been slowly blooming for decades and is now opening up to unleash what could possibly destroy America in its entirety. To strip Americans of their individual freedom in the guise of “safety” is so brazen, I don’t even know what to think! It was like a smack in the face. But I quickly recovered and it’s time for us all to move on to Plan B. Retaliation, revenge, self-defense. Close bank accounts, credit accounts etc. Defy defy defy them to the last!!! It is time.
Great satire!!
And to think that there are US citizens who actually believe this as truth.
Sad.
that’s because it is truth. We don’t want our country to be modeled after yours.
Of course you don’t want it modeled after Canada, thier gov’t is suppossed to be socialist, the fact that they are doing pretty much the same thing to Canadians is just the indicator that this about more than the U.S. This is global. It is about control, and it is long term. I would say the plan is to get everyone so much in debt, that they become little more than perpetual serfs, who can make enough $$ to live, but never to buy their freedom. Serfs who can be bought and sold, moved to where thier labour will be more efficient, forced to work as someone else dicatates… oh…wait a minute….anyone work for Wal~Mart?
Hey AL..
why dont you crawl out of your mothers basement and get a fucking job you fucked up Canadian…your wealth directly came from the United States…
You might want to take that 10 foot kong dong out of your asshole…I know your mother wanted to give you a present..but that’s ridiculous…
It would help if I could find a link to this damn bill newer than july of last year, and one that had page numbers and all the text in it. I cannot verify this infomation, but I do beleave it.
And again..can you tell us why did you posted in the first place you assclown?
:roll: wow another name calling,uneducated product of our government ran school system has spoken. Make home schooling look a whole lot better. I posted because much like many of the others on here I do not like where this country is heading.
Tammy,
Some “people” thrive on being replied to – Best left to their own minds. “Paradox” descends from the ancient greek, meaning,unexpected / strange. I just pray that whoever this is is not the product of any form of education system. Where this (USA) country is heading? – I see a “paradox”.
From the land of socialized medicine this is a joke.
great article. it is a dark day in America as the scum breaks laws to make laws. God will help us. It is happening so fast and God keep our little children safe from the tyranny, liars and drama/propagandists hell bent on our destruction.
Thank you for a good laugh …
What a bunch of rediculous nonsense. This stuff just confirms to thinking people just how rediculous and insane the oppostion is. If you really can’t see how ignorant this article is, you need to get help. See a doctor, well if you have insurance that is.
well it doesnt really matter now does it because soon everyone will have it…YAY COMMUNISM.
NOT.
Are you insane? Please, Please move to Cuba or China!!
Nah im j/k guys. I actually love Obamas plan and support it 100% and people who think it is socialist are IDIOTS!
Well John-your credibility got lost the second time you wrote “rediculous” Obviously you are a product of (government run) public schools. At least use spell check, if you wish to be taken seriously. At this point you are just-ridiculously ignorant. But no worries-the government will take care of you.
I bet your one of those guys that sucks really big cocks and takes the money shot in the face…
You sir are an assclown
You seem to have a strange fixation on “cocks” and “asses” and things of a juvenile, perverted sexual nature. That’s interesting, from a clinical perspective, as your insults reveal so much about your personal habits, sexual orientation, character, and IQ. They are symptoms of a sex addict with deeply rooted conflicts of gender identity. Have you consulted with a Psychiatrist or been referred to one by your doctor? If not, you would do well to seek one out. They might be able to help you.
You sound like your a gender bending assclown fuckface
no dude..if you havent noticed..im a pissed off American that is sick of Presidents putting into power a “Safe Schools Czar” that is gay and is a member of NAMBLA..a Tranny that is head of the Department of Commerce ..and all the stories about Larry Sinclair and Zero’s gay tendencies…
The one thing that I know…you have no fucking idea what your talking about…pretense of Zero’s Administration: FULL of GAY MOTHER FUCKERS…if you havent clued into that yet and dont do research…I dont think you will ever…later assclown
Ha ha ha!! Oh, the irony! Someone who considers himself a “thinking person” and yet at the same time can’t spell the word “ridiculous” when referring to people he deems so. Now THAT is RIDICULOUS!!
Geez, I can’t believe so many people believe this nonsense! How will we all get along if we’re singing from such different songbooks? And, if one songbook is basically all about name-calling, rather than intelligent listening? Why do so many of you who’ve responded feel obliged to use this kind of polarizing language on your fellow citizens? How often do we sit and listen to one another, instead of name-calling? I beg for citizenship here!
wow it seems when you people are doing the complaining and name calling it falls under freedom of speech ( which at least for now we can still claim)but when anyone disagrees with you you forget they have the same freedom(for now at least) Grow up!!
You hit it right in the big stupid head,a perfect description of a liberal!
Thank you so much. This is not a surprise to me as I am a christian and know what the Bible says. I am surprised to hear all this from EU. People do not want to believe what is happening and are turning a blind eye. May our God have mercy upon this great nation.
and what does the bible say wanda? Does it say that “Wanda doesnt know it enough to quote it?”
If you’ve never lived in communism you don’t know what you are talking about!!!!! Your article is interesting but you are so republican that there is no way you can report the truth! The truth is when you look at both sides and presents them without your opinion, and that is not what you did here. This country is the best country to live in the entire world. We are the most free nation of people who can do as they please. We elected this government and now they are doing the job we gave them. Do they do everything we like NO! But they do what they think is best. Sometimes it’s directly related to their own personal agenda (like any other president: for example DW). You are spreading fear and doubt into people and that is more communist than what Obama is doing!!!!!!
Do they do everything we like NO! But they do what they think is best. Sometimes it’s directly related to their own personal agenda (like any other president: for example DW)
Their job is to do EXACTLY what we want them to do and NOT what THEY THINK BEST. You have just defined communism in your defense of them! Obama’s regime is guilty of “spreading fear and doubt” by enacting unconstitutional laws and by threatening and intimidating the weak and promising entitlements to the lazy.
Sorry Karen, I did not mean to vote your post Down, I didn’t get it right away that you were Quoting that other person Lidia, the paid plant.
Yes, you’re right; “If you’ve never lived in communism, you don’t know what you’re talking about”; and you obviously haven’t. Your freedom is being stolen out from under your nose like taking pablum from a baby (I’m sure you don’t know what that is). You are free for a time yet, but soon you will not be. Soon you will know fear and doubt and will pine for these days when you were free. And, as for your comment about the the government doing what they think best, I have this quotation for you: “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with
the approval of their own conscience.” C. S. Lewis (1898 – 1963)
That’s one strange comment by CS Lewis. What’s the diff between robber barons & tyranny? The way you spell the names?
Actually we live under tyrannical robber barons so what’s the diff for we the people. Oh yeah, none.
By the way I agree with the article.
SamFox
What is lazy? So. Carolina’s Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer called ppl his state lazy. My aunt and my cousin live there. After the factories left Mass. but the real estate maret priced them out (damn that fremarket) they moved to a cheaper plac with terrible services, little upward mobity but, not surprisingly, low taxes. My aunt has been taking Soc Sec and my cousin gets “assistance”. My uncle died but prior all he could find was a parttime job at a retail shop. Should my autistic cousin and her 73 year old mom start a roofing business? you don’t know lazy until you retire, clip coupons instead of planting vegetables, spend 52 days a year eating and sitting at church and spend hours listening to TV and radio and other preachers who tell you how to think. This country has more bullets than brain cells. THAT is lazy.
one of those Plants they mention..
This ISN’T just about Obama. He is the latest TOOL.
Watch The Obama Deception.
Okay, first off, get past the political parties. It’s bull – nothing more than a control mechanism.
When the Right is in power, they expand Government and kill Liberty under the guise of “Security”.
When the Left is in power, they expand Government and kill Liberty under the guise of “Equality”.
See the common denominators there? Yeah, your allegiance to a “Party” (Which is a very totalitarian idea anyway) means NOTHING to those you “elect”. Want a shining anecdotal proof? Check out the video of Bush joking about “We’re gonna find those WMD’s somewhere”. You see Nancy Pelosi laughing along with him. Those two are supposed to be ideological enemies right? Those corporate loving republicans battling the union loving democrats, right?
Nope – they’re all there together for the same thing – CONTROL.
You really believe you’re the most free? Okay, get into a position where your “Freedom of Speech” can actually make a difference and see what happens to you. 100% you’ll be caught with drugs, a prostitute or just excoriated in the media until you disappear. Eliot Spitzer is a fine example – that man was working on taking down some of the Banking Cartel’s strongest arms. Days before he was going to take it into court – OH GEEZ! A Prostitute scandal!
No one elected this Government. This Government is comprised of millions of people, from the highest levels to the lowest, and all you focus on are the 536 people that are “elected”.
Here’s a real test for you – Tell me about the Senior Executive Service, who makes it up and what their powers are. You didn’t elect them.
Or the Presidential Working Group on the Markets – aka The Plunge Protection Team – who has invalidated any idea of a “Free Market” for decades now.
Please, you talk as if you’re reading out of a grammar school social studies book. Start learning the truth of what’s around you and then come and talk.
You hit the nail on the head. Well done!
Like some one said above, We need RON PAUL,. Also Chuck Baldwin & Judge Napalatano.
Ron Paul: The People Are Catching On That The Government Is Bankrupt
Ron Paul Exposes Obamacare on Freedom Watch
Ron Paul: Executive Orders are Unconstitutional; We Need a Private Option in Healthcare
Ron Paul Explains to Keynesian Economics Professor Why Inflation is Bad
Ron Paul to Ben Bernanke: Price Fixing Doesn’t Work, So Why Does The Fed Do It?
Tim Geithner “Agrees” With Ron Paul – But Still Wants To Keep The Fed!
Ron Paul visits Rand Paul in Kentucky
Ron Paul: Obamacare will Damage Doctor-Patient Relationship
Ron Paul: National Bankruptcy will Repeal Obamacare
Life, Liberty, Working Hard and Keeping What You Earn (Look up at YouTube)
SA@TAC – Nullify Obamacare (Look up @ YouTube)
http://www.judgenap.com/
If this nation does not repent…
SamFox
I forgot Chuck Baldwin-
http://tinyurl.com/yzegeyr
There is hope for US. But we must get involved NOW!!
SamFox
Lidia, you said a key thing here: “…they do what they think is best.” Therein lies the fallacy. So many people call our government a “democracy”. It is NOT. Our Founders were smarter than that. They gave us a Republic which is a REPRESENTATIVE form of government which means they are supposed to do what WE WANT THEM TO which is why the majority of Americans are so fed up and angry with the current situation. All the polls showed that the overwhelming majority of us did NOT want this bill passed, reform yes, takeover no. And to Matt above, elections DO work. State run media will make it much more difficult and until the brainless of our society realize that they need to vote for the PERSON and not the D or R after their name, we will continue to have problems. The media is our enemy and those of us who care do appreciate the across the pond news to get a proper perspective, at least a different one.
BG Sue,
Please provide evidence that elections work. I can point you to the current U.S. Government as an example of what “Elections” bring about when Corporate Personhood is recognized in a country.
So long as people keep depending on someone else, be it Government, Representatives or any Elected Official, the problem we are witnessing will continue. Now Bush’s SCOTUS says that Corporations are finally 100% people and their money is protected political speech. Well, I’m sure that won’t make elections even more pointless, now will it?
All the time I hear crap like We need to get the right people in office, we need to get all Republicans in power, we need to get all Democrats in power, we need to get all Libertarians in power etc. etc. etc.
How about WE, the people subject to their illegitimate rule, simply stop complying? Why keep relying on another human being to fix the problems and just stop going along with it. We’re all so scared of their army of enforcers that we allow them to get away with armed robbery while we are locked up in jail for consuming a non-government approved plant.
What would happen if millions and millions of people, without any organization or party or leader, just stopped going along with it? Stop paying them to rule over you, stop abiding by their every whim, stop buying only the products that are approved by them – Instead of HOPING to be Free – start LIVING FREE.
See how that goes.
Oh, and again, please provide proof of elections in the last 100 years having increased liberty in any substantive way.
:) lets do something about it
I am sssso glad to finally hear someone speak the TRUTH! We are not and never have been a democracy! The founding fathers were horrified by democracy (translate-mob rule)We ARE a REpresentitive Republic! This has (democracy) been taught in our public schools to the point that is accepted as truth!!Sit back and we will become a socialist nation-it is up to WE THE PEOPLE!
Only thing that I can say is this: If you live in the United States and have been watching on what this Cretin Pres. Zero has been doing to this country..and you “like it”…You sir live in your mother’s basement and have sex with your suck me suzi doll…
Your a fucking assclown…fist it
Hey guys i got a dildo jammed in my ass, can onyone get it out?? PLZZZZZ
You’re forgetting Switzerland
There will be no more elecitons in our country. There will be a man made aka government made terrorist attack and/or crisis that will suspend the elections. Obama will declare himself a dictator. I was born in Cuba. I know how the communist think and work. For years I have been warming my friends here and no one listen. That’s what happens when you let the communists take over every aspect of our country. The universities, the government, the courts. Now is way too late. We’re done. Soon martial law will come, the foreign troops in our land will kill us all and they will come to take our guns. Wake up, prepare and pray.RIP USA
It’s not too late and when they come to get my guns they will get a BIG SURPRISE. Who are they going to send to get our guns anyway? Soldiers? I spend 20+ years in the U.S. Army and know soldiers would join the resistance and instead of taking our guns the result would probably be more like a full blown revolution. This may be a time for another revolution.
and I will be one of them, defending the US Constitution.
Same. I would rather die a free man than live as a serf under the New World Order.
Amen…I agree
Patriots…Arm…Fight…disembowel Pres. Zero
There will be no more elecitons in our country.
There is only the appearance of elections now. The jewish banksters select BOTH sides and then put on a show for our amusement.
I agree with everything you said. So very sad.
It’s never to late. Just remember, there are more of us (the people) then there are of them (Government). also It’s we the people, not we the government. “They” are scared because there is more of us than they would like, so becareful, they will try to reduce are numbers by what ever means necessary. (starting w/are water, to much fluoride.)
We are indeed under assault by Obama and his communist regime. We ask all European dignitaries to stand with us, the resistance and against Obama. America needs your help now, more than ever.
Hey Karen I think you need help. Stop bitching that you didnt get your way. boo hoo nobody loves you or whatever, healthcare passed, its good. deal with it. We are STILL the ONLY DEVELOPED nation in the world that doesnt have a universal system. so we are FAR from socialist. hey when obama does a purge, THEN you can call him that. but untill then, shut your uneducated mouth!
Please change your moniker, it doesn’t suit.
I was at the Code Red rally last weekend, and we were accused of racial remarks and spitting on a Congressman. I can guarantee you that if that occurred, it was a plant. We are mostly older to elderly adult Christians and we have people of other races among us. NO ONE I know would do either thing. And keep in mind–this was on NATION-WIDE TV AND THERE IS NOT A SINGLE SHOT OF ANYTHING LIKE THIS OCCURRING! This Marxist government wants everyone to think we’re violent, when we are excising our RIGHT per the U.S. Constitution to peacefully protest. Please, world–don’t believe a thing you’re hearing about the Resistance in this country! We KNOW what is occurring and we don’t believe the Communists in government ever expected us to catch on until they decimated our country!
Well written. Hopefully this will motivate some people to get off their butt and move, while we still have freedom of speech. FCC already works on broad band communication to be clipped, so I heard. Would like to find out more on that. Thank you for informations.
:cry: We have to go to foreign sources because out own media has been taken over by Communists! Please know that despite an approach of non-violence, we will not be subjected to violence from the Communists without fighting back! Gun and ammo sales here in the U.S. are at an all-time high. Those of us wishing to maintain our freedom and liberty WILL REFUSE TO COMPLY at every turn…and many of us are willing to die for the cause of GOD & FREEDOM that our country was based upon! We will attempt to do this by voting in November. Barring that, I see a powder keg ready to explode should the Communists keep pushing their agenda. We the People of the United States will triumph!
:cry: Despite begging many of our friends and family members not to vote for this anti-Christ, they did and have now hung us all. Yet, our Tea Party and 912 movements continue to fight back in PEACEFUL ways, despite the tactics being used by the Communists to make us look violent! NOT ONE SINGLE ACT OF VIOLENCE HAS EVER BEEN CAUGHT ON TAPE! NOT ONE!
I think its time to start playing their game..fuck it..if they claim “we are violent” make a play to them and make it violent…overthrow or civil war is at hand for the united states…we are not going to take shit from a gay mother fucking president that likes crack and sucks cock for a living..
i can only hope that when our next elections come around then the demcrats will be out of power and the republicans will be ale to reverse this idiocy
“i can only hope that when our next elections come around then the demcrats[sic] will be out of power and the republicans will be ale to reverse this idiocy”
Robert,
Please listen to me, this is the most important concept for people to realize right now.
Tell me, when was the last time that the “Republicans” shrunk Government, reduced their authority and enhanced Liberty?
Reagan, the God of the Neo-Cons, signed the Hughes Amendment that finally killed off the 2nd Amendment. He also brought in Asset Forfeiture as a MAJOR tool for Federal Police in his beloved “Drug War”. He gave wonderful speeches but his results were the same as the left, just couched in different language.
Hell, what did Bush do for Liberty? Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, Signing Statements stating the Executive Branch doesn’t feel bound by Legislation bringing back Posse Comitatus, fully opposing the sunset of the Assault Weapons Ban, appointing Sullivan to head the BATFE – a man who has imposed more fascistic regulatory actions and rules than any other director, a man who rapaciously supports the Gun Control Act of 1968 despite it being a direct translation of the NAZI WEAPONS LAW OF 1938 (Yes, that’s proven. I can show you both laws side by side as well as Senator Dodd’s request mere months before he introduced the legislation to have his personal copy of the Nazi Weapons Law translated into English) – how’s THAT for “Conservative”?
Please, get past this two party bull. It’s a con game, a control mechanism to keep you battling against that other team instead of against your real enemies. What’s most insidious about it is that it results in you believing that elections actually work!
Again, tell me the last time an election brought about more Liberty?
you know the president is not the real president anyway, but thanks for putting that out there. we should have realized it in 2000 that the vast majority of voters in this country do not even know how their own system works much less that it does not work at all, but regardless, this country is rapidly becoming socialist. we need a third party that doesn’t suck
Try SPUSA, the actual socialist party of america. who btw is against this. Whoaaaa look at that, its not good enough for soicialists. then WHY THE HELL do u think that that is what it is???????
We need Ron Paul.
Matt: You’ve made great points; the two-party system is NOT working so who are the REAL enemies?
Matt,
As a FORMER life long Republican, it grieves me to have to agree with you, but those are the facts.
Government cannot and will not save us. Government, by its very nature, is a beast which feeds off of the producers, like parasites.
This dilemma can only be solved by Yahshua’s return and I pray HE comes quickly.
Unfortunately this final test will only be solved by a third world war. How well we fight and the side we choose will determine our fate.
The sides WILL BE (and are) the children of Jacob Israel (The White Adamic Race) and those who side with us versus the children of the devil (The jews) and those who side with them.
Equally unfortunate, many of our own kinsmen have been greatly deceived and have sided with the devil. So be it. They will answer for their high treason!
If we’re ALLOWED to have mid-term elections.
I’m waiting for another engineered “crisis” the government will have to intercede in. Like the Fannie melt down and GM failing.
I was in Illinois in 2000 and all the talk was about Barak Obama and his 2008 presidential bid.
Wow…America has to come to foreign news sources to get the real scoop…
Thank you for printing the TRUTH, which the liberal news media in our country will NOT do. We The People of this, the greatest country in the history of Earth, will NOT allow Obama and his cronies to succeed.
I’m just going to pick this one apart one thing at a time.
1) Your little quip about “full fledged godless communist empire” is as about as outrageous as it gets. First of all, if you were to compare it to any other form of government it would be socialist. And as for the piece about this being about control, yeah it is. But there are several reasons health care needs to have more control over it, to believe it’s a perfect system now is ignorant. Do some research on the benefits.
2)Any point you make in here about “Obama this” or “Obama that”, dont fucking forget over half of congress is backing him up! So easy to point a finger at the guy with the worst job in the world.
3)You talk about Obama “destroying America’s once vibrant capitalistic system.” I’m not sure where you were the last few years, but that capitalist system failed because of the lack of efficiency on the automobile industries part, and because of greed on the parts of Freddy Mac and Fanny mae. Capitalism here even allowed for loans to be given to those who couldn’t pay them back. And if you recall, capitalism also failed about 80 years ago because of exploits in the system, similar to how they are now. So it needs so it needs some tweaking! Get over it!
4)What’s with all this bible thumbing bullshit?! If you really believe in these events are indications of the end-times then why do you have a problem with it? ‘Oh no! Obama is fulfilling a prophecy =0, we must stop him!’
Stop rabble rousing, PLEASE…
The healthcare system is nowhere near perfect now. Many people do agree that it needs reform. But not this.
And as far as capitalism goes, capitalism works absolutely fine until the government gets involved (in which case it’s no longer capitalism). I completely agree with you, the banks got greedy and lent out tons and tons of loans that they absolutely shouldn’t have, and the banks failed. If the ideals of capitalism were to be retained, we should have just let those idiot banks fail. The good banks would have gone on just fine and the natural checks of capitalism would get rid of the failing ones. But our problems came when the government tried to step in and save everything, thereby only making things worse. They spent tons and tons of money to bail the banks out. Which is stupid. Because those banks just kept doing the exact same thing, lending loans they shouldn’t have, and thus the government went more and more into debt. Capitalism never failed, the government just wouldn’t let it right itself.
You sound like a real pu$$y….why dont you bend over and tell Pres. Zero that you will be Larry Sinclair and take it in the a$$ like a good little boy..lmao
your a waste of air…
Im sure soon you will be hearing in your ear “Papers Please!”
President Zero Sucks..we will have a revolution here..and its probably going to happen before he is out of office….Pres. Zero is a verified communist
Sleeping Wraith…go fawk off and assume the position when the Dicktator comes over to your house and whips it out ..you better have that mouth open big boy…
EUTimes does a good job of getting news to people in the United States…Sleeping Wraith..your going to be doing a good job being Pres. Zero’s “bottom boi”
I just wanted to point out that the banks failed because our Government pushed Freddie and Fannie to give loans to people who under normal circumstances would never have qualified for the loans. People like Barnie Frank pushed for unqualified people to get loans because those people would be grateful that they now had a home. Because we all know that owning a home is a “Right.” The more loans (and homes) they gave away the more they liked the person who gave them the home. It was a house of cards and ultimately the people to blame for this whole mess are the Dems you kept forcing Freddie and Fanny to make more and more high risk loans that ultimately they could not pay back. It’s more complicated than that, but most of it had nothing to do with the ‘greedy’ banks. Banks only want to make loans to people who can pay them back. Because these less fortunate people could not secure a loan, the Government (Socialism) comes in a ‘gives’ them a loan. Look, you can’t have it both ways. Not everyone gets a house, unless you’re willing to work your but off to be able to afford one.
BTW – Obama is a Marxist. And although I don’t agree with everything in this article, it’s pretty damn close.
The government over regulates banks, the fed plays with fiat currency, this is why the banks could get greedy in the first place. In a truly free market, this would not have happened.
Government controls social security, and robbed its reserve fund blind, on top of mismanaging it, and medicare and medicaid so poorly, all of them are bankrupt.
The Dept. of Ed is failing, FEMA is an overbloated expensive nightmare.
And anyone would want the government to have one ounce more control? You’ve got to be insane.
I don’t like banks, BUT do you understand that the banks were FORCED by the government to make those loans??? The Gov set quotas, and the banks had to meet them. And the quotas were so UNQUALIFIED borrowers would get the loan! ALL part of the plan !
You make a good point about how it would have corrected itself. I’m not sure I would fully agree but I would like to know what would have happened to all those who lost their jobs if we just let the bad companies and banks die off.
Ummm, excuse me? You don’t even live in this country. Yeah, he had congress on his side, because the congress is made up mostly of like minded cronies. You failed to note that over 3/4 of the country REJECTED this healthcare plan and he passed it anyway. It is no surprise that someone from another country wants to see America fall into the same socialistic regime that the rest of Europe has fallen under.
Jayson are you stupid? Only half of Congress was behind this shit. They had to bribe and threaten some of their own party to get enough votes. and yes I live in this County. It used to be the United States of America. Now it looks mor like United Socialist States of America to me.
I live in Germany because I’m a soldier, asshole. And yes, I am a bit of a socialist. I think there is a good blend of socialism and capitalism that needs to be found for a better country. But I also believe that the American culture is not ready for this.
Dear Sleeping……Capitalism works beautifully when a corrupt, socialist leaning government does NOT interfere. Katie below has a lot of that right. Those lending banks were FORCED by Clinton to make those loans all the way back in ’91. They didn’t want to, but they were forced to. GW Bush warned of the fall of Freddie and Fannie but no one listened……but no one was listening to him by then. It was a Democratic Congress and our government was stalling. The initial bailout was demanded by Obama after his election. GW complied. People seem to forget that little fact. Had things been allowed to flow the capitalist way, yeah, there’d have been pain, a lot out of work, but ingenuity would have thrived and the system would recover as always. Take a look at the FDR playbook during the depression. He almost ruined this country back then and dragged our recession on for years whereas Europe got out more quickly. And here we are, doing it all again. America’s complacency and apathy got us into it…..it’ll be the Patriotic energy from our Founding Father’s resurging in millions today that will get us out of it. Wish us well. :-)
BG Sue, you’re right. The patriotic energy will save us, it’s the work force of man power this country generates that supports it. What has failed is a poor utilization of that resource. We as a country are lazy in many ways and companies don’t get the big picture. The second problem is that the economy is more complex now especially the global economy.
It seems to me that we have less checks and balances now and have to re-invent ourselves a little, while promoting that had working patriotism.
Sounds like you know all, just keep your ass in Germany, we will not bail your ass’ out again
that’s right undercoverusa…we won’t be able to bail Germany out ever again bacause we’re a broke ass country now thanks to Obama and he intends to keep us broke with this HC bill that we’ll never pay for, or our children either for that matter because those 11,000,00 illegals that weren’t gonna be covered by it will be once Obama does the immigration bill and nationalizes all of them. We won’t have free commerce or any industry left to make the equipment and guns and all our young men will hang themselves under the oppression of their debt!
The most frightening thing about the Amnesty, is the reasoning behind it. The “thug in thief” wants to legalize the wet-backs, so he can register them to vote (for him of course). and Obozo wants to be in power for as long as possible. The current Congress, and Senate, and all the “criminal administration” will try to eliminate term limits on the presidency. And since we know how well our protests work, they will find a way to do it. November is so crucial. We must vote out every “bum” currently in office.
And lets not forget that if US pulled out all its bases and support that country would be a wasteland!!!
Bravo! :!:
I intended to say BRAVO to SleepingWraith!
But there are several reasons health care needs to have more control over it…
The is utter BS! Name me ONE government program that ISN’T bankrupt. I’ll give you all the time you need…
Waiting…yawning…snoring…
Even though governments have PROVEN beyond any shadow of a doubt that it is totally incompetent and inept, STUPID people still think more government is the answer.
STUPID people, a.k.a. government lovers, should not be allowed to breed. Now that would be health care reform I would wholly support!
Germans, once proud and independent SAXONS, are now some of the most whinny sissy babies on the entire planet. THAT’S socialism for you.
Only just picked up on all of this.
James, I am a US citizen, now living in England and spent some time working in Hong Kong. This government, (Hong Kong) and I would say it is fairly unique in circumstance and how it operates, is far from bankrupt. They do have an amazing control that seems to keep this in balance – they are the “landlord”. Otherwise, it seems to be a a good set-up. Income taxes are lower, luxury taxes high and their is an excess of social housing. No one living on the streets, everyone with a job, and an excellent health service.
Sorry if I woke you up.
Hard for me to take someone serious who finds it necessary to use the f word. Childish.
You sound like a real pu$$y….why dont you bend over and tell Pres. Zero that you will be Larry Sinclair and take it in the a$$ like a good little boy..lmao
your a waste of air…
Im sure soon you will be hearing in your ear “Papers Please!”
President Zero Sucks..we will have a revolution here..and its probably going to happen before he is out of office….Pres. Zero is a verified communist
Sleeping Wraith…go fawk off and assume the position when the Dicktator comes over to your house and whips it out ..you better have that mouth open big boy…
EUTimes does a good job of getting news to people in the United States…Sleeping Wraith..your going to be doing a good job being Pres. Zero’s “bottom boi”
A sovereign nation is no longer a capitalist nation the day they centralize credit and move off commodity-(gold or silver)-backed money. With the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913, this marked the official end of capitalism in the US. Not much changed overnight, but the dominoes have slowly fallen into place as the US slides closer to a quasi-communist state. Which is why I don’t understand when people say capitalism failed when referring to the great depression or the most reason financial meltdown. These things would not have happened had the banks been fiscally restrained by honest money.
This is not a new phenomenon. Nations in centuries past have gone through similar cycles, ultimately generating so much apathy among its citizens that is implodes within. It seems inevitable, in fact, that any thriving nation will ultimately be usurped by power hungry elitist. Who knows how it will play out this time in the age of technology and globalization.
It is obvious the health care system does need a lot of tweaking, but let me hit you with the illegal immigration problem and the obvious effects it is having. Why not use the money to get rid of them and make it impossible for them to return. Think of the benefits!!! There would be more money in every government coffer for the citizens that need and sometimes deserve it due to either economic issues not necessarily their fault or whatever. We as a country as a whole are too intent on worrying about Haiti or Chile or wherever there is a disaster. We fail to recognize the problems that our own people have. I am sorry about the devastation these countries have seen but where were they when hurricane Katrina hit?? Or any of the other disasters our country has seen?? Where were they ? Cleaning our country of illegal aliens is not a racist statement or action. They are illegal. Therefore they have no rights. They have no rights to our health care, our roads, our jobs, our land. They bilk our country of every dime they can and send the money back home. If we got rid of this problem permanently maybe our unemployment rate would plummet and in having a job we could afford health care . With people having jobs maybe they can pay their health care bills and then insurance companies can lower the cost because they are not losing money on idiots that refuse to pay because there is no way to track and find them. I say fix the hole in the boat instead of trying to use a bigger bucket. No system is ever fool proof, but how can we be so blind and allow our country to fall. One analogy that fits the scenario. If you have a friend that occasionally comes in your house and get some food from your refrigerator and he is in need you most likely will not say anything. When this “friend” increases his taking and you are then caught without what you need, is this right? Of course not, yet is this not what America is doing. We worry about the other guy and fail to care for our own!!!
Go back to sleep, fool. Study Marxist strategy and you will learn something. Your ignorance is appalling.
“but that capitalist system failed because of the lack of efficiency on the automobile industries part” What?? Have you lost your ignorant mind? Our auto industry if failing because of the strangle hold the Auto Workers Union has on them. The first billion yes.. $1Billion dollars that General Motors makes each year has to go into a pension fund for people who are retired with full pensions after only 20 years of employment. Where else can you get a job at 20, retire at 40, and get your full pay + benefits for the next 40 years for doing nothing. Capitalism hasn’t failed – The UNIONS are killing it. Freddy and Fanny are Government sponsored enterprises chartered by Congress … and overseen by congress AND they failed.. but you want them to oversee health care in the same way… geeze
:roll: …keep clicking those heels Dorothy…. anything to stir you awake. Look at from what heights we have fallen. And you are still in denial. Whether you see this as a mortal wound or a pinprick. It is damage to the fabric of this great country. This festering sore of an administration must be stopped. Some damage is already irrepairable…. global American pride for one.
1)There is a fine line between socialist and communist. We in America, want nor will stand for either.
2)I don’t know what you think you know about our Congress, but the half of Congress that backs this plan are in Obama’s party only. The half of Congress that opposed this monstrous takeover is actually bi-partisan.Meaning, even some of his own party opposes this takeover.
3) No private industry should be taken over by our gov’t. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were ordered to allow loans to deadbeats by liberals. Republicans fought that for years, but were unable to stop them. But, in part you are correct. Capitalism needs tweaking. Not replacing. I repeat. Socialism and Communism is not what Americans will stand for. And, after all, we are talking about America and Americans here. Aren’t we?
4) Right thinking Americans do not buy into the ‘Obama the Messiah’ Bull$it. He can’t fulfill anyone’s prophecy.
shredder, why didnt the republicans change the rules on loans? they were the majority for a long while when gw was president.Why didnt they change what clinton put into law? I think we need to get rid of democrat and republican parties. While we are at it, we need to get rid of congress. They are all bought and paid for by the lobbyist anyways, they dont do for the american people, they do for themselves. they have the best healthcare in the world and who pays for it? not them. they decide when and how much of raises they get, not the american people. some of them own 7 or 8 houses, who do you think paid for them? America does need to wake up. I fear they wont until its too late.We have a lot of worthless government, but its not all in one party or another, its in both.
If you are going to attempt to “pick something apart” I suggest you:(1)do your homework; (2) get your facts straight; (3) try to process your facts (I doubt you have the capacity to do this) and (4) clean up your act and your language.
Here are a few facts you might want to start with:
(1) The economic dominance of the US since 1945 is rooted in the ability to succeed in a free market system. That freedom has over the past 20 years been systematically usurped by power hungry liberal progressives in the Administration, Congress and Supreme Court.
I’ll give you just one example: The liberal progressives in Congress mandated the quasi-government Agencies, FNMA (“Fannie”) and FHLMC (“Freddie”) to promote home ownership for the masses by creating and buying those “mindless” subprime mortgage loans, beginning back in the mid-Ninties. Those Agencies complied with insane underwriting standards for all loan originators to generate the paper trash. Then Fannie and Freddie went to Wall Street and asked for help in creating a world-wide secondary market so they could unload the crap that was being generated for their sub-prime programs. Maybe it comes as a surprise to you that, with the Fannie and Freddie guarantees, this market was not hard for Wall Street to create. So, if you want to trace the collapse of the U.S. financial markets and the worldwide crisis that began in the latter half of 2007, you will end your search in the U.S. Congress.
(2) Even with itws flaws, and there are some major ones, the private U.S. healthcare system WAS, before this week, the best in the world. The U.S Government runs Medicare which has built up a $35 trillion deficit under Congressional oversight since inception. The U.S Post Office is broke. AMTRACK is insolvent without more entitlements.
Look around and tell me, or just show me the evidence… where is the proof…that our government can nationalize ANYTHING and run it efficiently.
Socialism is NOT the answer for our problems, in fact, it is the same formula for destruction that it has proven to be in other once great nations.
Hey Sleeping
1) You are correct, obama aka: zero is a Fabian Socialist, not a communist. Our healthcare is now LESS PERFECT than it was. We just went from first to worst in a NY minute. Senior citizens, the ones who have paid into Medicare for 40+ years, are now going to face rationing while illegal aliens, who have never paid into Medicare, will now have free healthcare. In addition, those of us with good, employer paid healthcare plans will now face a 40% tax on those plans, yet union members who enjoy the same Cadillac plans won’t have to face the same tax. This is obama, or as we call him in the States, zero’s quid pro quo for the SEIU support. Finally, in another example of quid pro quo, the student loans will be forgiven after 10 years (do you see yet another bailout) for those students who find employment in government jobs (which now average higher pay than the private sector) but those students who find work in the private sector will have to pay for 20 years before the balance is forgiven. Not exactly equal treatment under zero’s governance. Govt workers are good, private sector workers are bad and must be plundered. Union workers are good and non-union workers are bad and must be plundered.
2) Fuck the Congress, poll after poll after poll shows the majority of the American public rejects the government control of healthcare. Most polls are 55% Against to 45% for.
3) Freddie and Fannie are failing DUE TO GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION which REQUIRED the provision of loans to those who couldn’t afford them. That isn’t capitalism, that is idiot based government intervention. Had government stayed out of the way, those institutions would have a much healthier portfolio of assets than they currently do. The US Auto industry failed because the were outnegotiated by the unions and their failure in those negotiations caused an increase in retirement benefits that could no longer be supported by their income statement. The resulting increase in price and decrease in value caused most Americans to look kindly to the foreign manufacturers. In addition, to this day, rather than contribute to the success of the pro-democratic party UAW, at least 49% of Americans will buy foreign rather than support the UAW and the governments investment into Ford, GM and Chrysler.
4)Why is it that the left is so intolerant about religion? And why is it that the left is really only intolerant about the Christian religion and will never raise its mindless voice against the Islamic religion?
:roll: You poor mixed up piece of pig excrement
Hey Sleeping Wraith, your name is fitting, your sleeping your life away unaware of what is going on around you!
1) In your first statement about comparison of communist/socialist I agree with you, we are more socialist than communist now. What will we be in a few years from now when our “socialist ” government starts to take over more of our freedoms? But even more disturbing than that, is the fact that you (and your progressive friends) are ok that we are now living in a socialistic society. You and your progressive friends scare me more than Obama and Pelosi because your are the people voting for these socialists who are lying and cheating you and me.
2)Sleeping, the reason half the congress is backing him is because more than half of congress are democrats, again you’re sleeping through life. Not ONE republican voted for the Messiah’s health care TAKE OVER. Not only that, a fair amount of the democrats “sold out” and were “cornholed” into voting for something they didn’t believe in themselves. HMMMM?
3)Lack of efficiency from our auto industry? Yes, again you are correct. Our American cars are very inefficient. Why is that? Wake up Sleeping.
As far as Fannie and Freddie, are they greedy? Absolutely, everyone wants to make a dollar or two. What you don’t know, or don’t remember (like all progressives ie Hillary and BIll), is that they were mandated by our government (progressive Bill) to give out these loans you speak of to be “fair” to the poor in this country who couldn’t afford them. Smart move, eh?
4)And last, but certainly not least…..”Bible thumping bullshit”? Sleeping, I am not very religious myself, but what I do recognize is the fact that this country was founded on Jewdeo Christian beliefs. Our fine progressives are taking religion completely out of our society. Most recently, Davenport Iowa morons wanting to call GOOD FRIDAY “spring holiday”. Are you f…… kidding me?
Buddy, I suggest that you wake up and actually see what is taking place in this country. Our “fine” government is brain washing you and your “friends” because the messiah is a good orator. You, and your “friends” better wake up soon or we will be a communist country.
Correction. We WERE the greatest country. Not anymore. Obama made sure of that right after screwing the constitution like a virgin on prom night.
Bush did it first & Obama just finishing it.
Jan, not to take away from your patriotic fervor, as we all feel patriotic for standing up against tyranny in our country, I do feel compelled to tell you that people, outside of the U.S. consider us to be arrogant bores by stating that we are the “greatest country in the history of the earth”!! Those statements only lead to resentment and, unfortunately, your statement does not hold true in today’s times. We are spied upon, censored and bullied. We are lied to by our government an our mass media. We are sent to foreign country’s to by used as cannon fodder to further their illegal wars. We are not great, rather, the vast majority of Americans are either sleeping, ignorant or complacent about the world around them. They naively believe in the integrity of our government, which holds no integrity whatsoever. So, your statement is both arrogant in the eyes of other’s and no longer true in the actions of our populace.
Right on Artie
You are right about one thing… we ARE not the greatest country on the earth… WE WERE!!!! Actually, I am not too concerned what other countries who have been corrupt, communist, racist killers, ethnic cleansers, and a whole lot of other things that we have only been to a minimum and miniscule compared to them…. So we WERE the greatest nation in the world… but no longer… thanks to progressives and liberals in both parties… we can’t make that claim any longer….
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Read the February and March editions. This article does well tying the administration to the dark arts and dates barely cited above.
This is the most biased piece of shit ive ever seen. it literally made an antichrist comparison. well fun fact, the only reason it took this long to pass was because REPUBLICANS held it off so long. If this is the truth then im gonna stop going on here and instead fly around on my new unicorn :D And you want to talk Cronies???? what about Bush! Hey how many ppl has obama killed? oh thats right none. and bush. oh u know, just a few thousand thanks to his wasteful wars.