“There is an event coming in the very near-term future that is going to effect the USA to its very soul,” former Kansas State Trooper Greg Everson of The Heartland USA and former host of Republic Broadcasting “Voices from the Heartland” told host Steve Quayle in a special two hour “Survive 2 Thrive” broadcast Thursday.
“What is being planned and what is coming together is a perfect storm brewing right over our heads.” Everson cited verifiable information confirmed by an active duty US Air Force Colonel, three chiefs of Police, a local Sheriff, State Troopers in 3 neighboring Midwest states and a Federal agent he has known for twenty years.
“There is being made an effort to bring together the Armed Forces of this Nation in preparation for responding to and acting against the interests of our Citizens,” Everson said. Such efforts include actions that will be so deep and penetrating that the United States will never be the same. Everson explained that the deteriorating economy combined with Federal Reserve theft of trillions unaccounted for has had a devastating effect on Americans who had have enough and the US Military expects will respond by defending what little they have left.
“The American people have reached the point of total saturation due to the failure of Government to protect its borders, corruption and theft.” Everson expects that such a response has been projected by US Government computer models and believes NORTHCOM, DHS and state and local authorities will begin implementation of Operation Garden Plot and Martial Law within 45-60 days. “Civil war is precisely what this administration wants to happen,” said Everson. “And before Americans can organize themselves they will be destroyed by their own military.”
The first signs of pacification by our own forces will not only be convoys rolling through city streets and small towns throughout the Country, but direct military action against pre-targeted areas. Data acquired in the past year by “Census workers” has been used to program military targeting computers which our own armed forces will use in the unthinkable task of fighting its own citizenry.
“It is a formula for unmitigated disaster regardless of Copenhagen, Health Care reform or anything coming from Capitol Hill,” Everson said. Steve Quayle noted his own sources who say as many as 50 million Americans are likely to be killed with gun owners, veterans and the more visible dissenters the most likely targets of deadly force. More “liberal” areas that pose minimal resistance would likely be pacified using lesser means.
One of Everson’s’ sources was quoted as having said “We have plans that if it gets bad enough we will simply commence yard farming,” (a military reference for targeted air strikes) on neighborhoods and communities in cities and states where heavy resistance is expected. A tactic designed to destroy both the enemy and the area(s) under and around the enemy. Everson suggests such horrifying events could possibly coincide with an invasion by the Chinese from the west and Mexico from the south. In any case, military, law enforcement and civilian casualties could be enormous.
During the two hour broadcast Quayle received an e-mail message from an undisclosed US Military source that a last minute, unscheduled meeting of Saturday December 5 has been called for all unit commanders in the region to present readiness status reports. States in the Region include Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, Illinois and Tennessee.
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If you want to find out which rights you really do or do not have, simply try excersizing them sometime. You may be suprised just how many are already gone.
Just wanted to post this – really not related to the story above – but “Obama issues” were mentioned from time to time by many posting here.
There was an essay today over at The American Thinker that I think is worth the read.
“Obama the Red Avenger”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/obama_the_red_avenger.html
By James Lewis
Susan,
Some comments on your comments;
Thank you for your good wishes. Three cancers, actually – all three are considered “rare” – two were dispatched via surgery, the third – the main cancer – there was really no protocol for handling it. My doctor – truly an EXCEPTIONAL woman and a dr. at the VA, I might add, hammered it for a little over a year straight with several different forms of High Dose Chemotherapy. We knocked it back into a remission (this I was told by research doctors at the National Institute of Cancer would last, generally 9 months) – survivability is generally 22% beyond 3 years.
Well, I am now five years since discovery and 3 years into remission. I think perhaps that is in part because my cancer both loves and fears my doctor – she is a beautiful young Italian woman (I love her as I do my 10 daughters) – and it is afraid to turn its back on her for fear she’d put a knife in it. That and when I was first diagnosed, I had a conversation with my cancer – yes, perhaps I am insightful – but also very weird. I underscored the reality of the situation to my cancer, reminding it that the truth is, when I die, IT DIES – so unless it was suicidal it might want to keep that in mind.
Long ago, I attended the unveiling of the Buffalo Soldier Monument at Fort Levenworth, Ka – it had been a long time dream of then out going Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Colin Powell – There I met one of the most incredible men I have ever had the honor of meeting – a very old black doctor – he said he was 96 – I do think older than that, and he still practiced medicine. He had been the son of a slave – then a house boy, entered the military, became a medic, then a doctor. I am SURE he got to where he was because of determination and passion, and not some affirmative action program. He told me something that has always been with me – “The moment you are born, you begin to die – cherish all around you – you are here to learn certain lessons – don’t waste this time trying to answer the ‘questions of life’ – if you believe you have an eternal soul – then not only will it always be, it always was – so you already know those answers.” He also added “never take life too seriously, because it certainly doesn’t take you very seriously.”
“Regarding your comment: you are right: it is very difficult NOT to assign your own moral judgment to someone else’s behavior or thoughts.”
Well, I would agree ONLY if one could be assured that one’s own moral judgements were solely base on what they know from deep inside solely, and not based on what they have been taught. Then you find that you can comment – honestly and bluntly, but in you criticism is not done with any malice.
To me – Life is an Illusion – YOU create it, and YOU change it. It is OUR pallet to paint ANY way we choose – but DO REMEMBER, we can use erasable paints.
“That would take some doing on my part given the fact that I actually have spent several years researching Obama’s background and everything associated.”
It is interesting, isn’t it. I have met him on several occasions – before the election. This thanks to a long time friendship with Billy (Ayers) – We were schoolmates back in Glen Ellyn, Il. Billy and I never talked politics much – as I am and have been since my youth, a political atheist. Barrack, I thought, was an alright person (Michelle, I didn’t like – no particular reason, and I am sure she would say same of me) – We have a couple of pleasant conversations – after each, I was left with the sense that I had heard NOTHING – the term “automaton” comes to mind.
I say this because, Americans tout the fact the we elected our first Black Man as President – god, how horrid that a person’s skin color should EVER be a factor – I wouldn’t care if he/she were Orange – as long as they were the most qualified person – I am NOT biased (well, alright – truth – I suppose I am – a plaid person – just don’t trust people who have plaid skin.) Well, I would argue that the election of Obama was historic in that we elected our first Straw Man as a president.
To understand the President is so simple – if you keep at the forefront this thought – above all else he is a community organizer – a pitchman if you will. Doesn’t make him bad – nor good – it is who he is. He and all his associates in the White House are more puppets – which does suggest a puppet master, doesn’t it. Step back and look for the puppet master – I think you might find that this “puppet master(s)” transcend party politics. Perhaps, if this notion is true, it well may also be that there in not always perfect harmony and accord among these puppet masters. (Gosh 9/11 comes to mind – which I think was not planned terrorist act solely – though they might have been “contracted” to play some part – NOR was it a “Bush” or government thing – it may well have been a warning from one puppet master(s) to another. In fact, this notion of Straw Man presidents may well have a long history in this country (and others as well) – or perhaps this in nothing more than an acid-flashback/rambling of an old hippie. Does this make it bad – no, just possibly interesting. Since this is a nation that doesn’t readily accept totalitarianism, it might be the bast way to “play” the system.
Far fetched – perhaps – but I can say it is done – even by us commoners. If I can bore all with yet another story (hey cut me slack – I am dying of cancer [LOL, thought I would play the “cancer card” for sympathy]) I remember once myself and four friends – two of which could be call “radicals” – in fact I know they even made the FBI’s subversive list decided to the SDS (Students for a Democratic Society) at the SAME TIME, we also joined the YAF (Young Americans for Freedom) – and in a short time – without any desire to hold officer’s position – we controlled BOTH groups – from working in the background – the shadows if you will. Why, perhaps boredom – perhaps we just thought we could and wanted to give it a try.
So the point is that perhaps there is a group or more probably are groups that understand the our system – and are gaming the system. Evil men – most probably not – perhaps just hyper bored and are capable of thinking on a much grander scale than did my friends and I in college.
One final comment (and I know everyone is cheering that) – reading all the comments here – they have all be quite fantastic – with the exception of the “name calling” – remember there may be old ladies who read these who blush easily and they might interrupt that to be “hot flashes” . I truly hope this thread continues, provided folks say what the feel and sense – their truth(s) – and not be afraid when their truth is not necessarily the same truth as that of someone else. We need remember a “truth” is NOT an end to the road – a “truth” is no more than the best possible GUESS – based on the best possible information at a given moment in time – thus truth is perhaps best considered to be a dynamic – so from all these, at times, divergent “truths” we can develop the next possible “truth” – or best possible guess.
Bondage Breaker – over the years I have come to know – and still keep in very close contact with many Military officers (command level) that are still active military – I can say that there is more talk along the lines you suggested than even remotely suggests what this article lays out. While I could not even remotely call any of this a “Conspiracy of Generals” – I can say that of these two “plausibilities” – the good money would be on what you mentioned.
I read the oath to uphold the constitution against foreign and domestic terrorist . . Obama and his henchman are domestic terrorist and our armed forces leaders could very well turn the weapons against him .
Dont be quick to run America into the grave yard .
Bob,
“And I was reading up further about “No 2010 election” I have beleive there will be no 2010 for a while. To speak of it paints me as a lunatic.”
Lunatic???? NO, not at all – you, Susan, and I then all share this same sense. It is an intuitive thing … or even perhaps more vague than that. Normally, – in the case of an election coming up – it was something that we didn’t give much thought to – like a Labor Day weekend – or another baseball season where the Cubs could have, should, have but didn’t make it into a World Series. But with the 2010 elections … I just have a sense it won’t happen. Normally I would say at this point – “But we are probably wrong.” But, this is the first time, to do so I would feel very uncomfortable with that remark.
SO – if we are wrong, then oh well, we were wrong – HOWEVER – this caution to the three of of (and who know how many more – I think many) – If we are right – DO NOT ASSUME THEREFORE WE HAVE SOME PHYSIC POWERS and assume that we can readily pick Mega-Millions lottery winning numbers.
As I mentioned to Susan in a comment – for Over 20 years I was a journalist and knew most all these people in Congress – and now nearly 15 years into retirement, most are still there (sad, isn’t it – I always assumed that serving in Congress was just that a “service” to your country – not a career path) – as I told her, to a person, there are all good people – when back home, but once in DC – well, it has always been my contention that there is a booth along the beltway where EVERY Congressman and Senator had to stop before entering and check their brain – only to get it back when heading back to the district or leaving office. Bless their hearts, they were just so out of touch – NOW, whenever I travel to DC, to lecture or passing through and I take the time to have lunch with them … there is a difference … there is a remoteness – and an arrogance that is just downright dangerous. For all the reasons that had been touted for establishing term limits … perhaps the most important one was over looked – “DANGER – Serving more than two terms is hazardous to your mental health!”
I would also suggest that the United States has been or at very least as close as one can get, to being a Fascist State since the early 20th century.
When people hear the word “fascism” they naturally think of its ugly racism and anti-Semitism as practiced by the totalitarian regimes of Mussolini and Hitler. But there was also an economic policy component of fascism, known in Europe during the 1920s and ’30s as “corporatism,” that was an essential ingredient of economic totalitarianism as practiced by Mussolini and Hitler. So-called corporatism was adopted in Italy and Germany during the 1930s and was held up as a “model” by quite a few intellectuals and policy makers in the United States and Europe. A version of economic fascism was in fact adopted in the United States in the 1930s and survives to this day. In the United States these policies were not called “fascism” but “planned capitalism.”
One of the most outspoken American fascists was economist Lawrence Dennis. In his 1936 book, The Coming American Fascism, Dennis declared that defenders of “18th-century Americanism” were sure to become “the laughing stock of their own countrymen” and that the adoption of economic fascism would intensify “national spirit” and put it behind “the enterprises of public welfare and social control.”
In fact, R.G. Price makes a very compelling argument that American fascism starts with the conclusion of the Civil War and the start of Reconstruction.
If you have chance, do read – The Rise of American Fascism
http://rationalrevolution.net/articles/rise_of_american_fascism.htm
Not saying I totally agree – but it does give one something to research more deeply if interested.
Incredibly well said Susan
And I was reading up further about “No 2010 election” I have beleive there will be no 2010 for a while. To speak of it paints me as a lunatic.
Then there a coment about ACORN …. Very true but ACORN is only one NGO (Non Government Organization> There are over two million in North America alone. They are mostely in coalitions and Umbrellas as Acorn is under The Tides Foundation.
The UN aranges these coalitions of NGOs under what they call ?Consultive status NGOs” ACORN would be under Tides as the UN Consultive Status NGO.
But GB only showes the one consperacy tree as if it stands alone. The fact is there is a forest of these consperacy trees together the branches are woven into the pattern of a fabric.
As you say Susan no need of attacking the single tyrannt. These NGOs all operate at the local level Advocating and educating throught consultation to your County Commissions and development committees. Through your education Board and its verious committees.
To understand how evasive or misunderstood these groups are. Ask yourself what you know about Rotary International… Then google ROTARY International, Consultive Status , United Nations.
Or check out http://www.theirflorida.com . Its my feeble attempt at a website. But it has som pretty good links
Put “No 2010 Election” another way: With the Progressives in control, what incentives do they have to suddenly follow the Constitution and participate in the 2010 elections?
We can ask ourselves why they would want to do that? If held, the 2010 midterms would definitely strip the Democrats of power & force them out. By then, things might be so bad that the entire party could very well disintegrate. Rationally speaking, then, there’s no honest reason for them to do so – beyond honesty, itself. and I can guarantee you that “honesty” means zip to these people!
In my opinion, as of now elections are a thing of the past if we assume things continue down this current path. I hate saying this, but given the facts and current conditions, I just do not see an alternative.
Look up what my “handle” means in a dictionary.
According to law, US Federal forces cannot be employed within the US Borders, against any Domestic Foe.
I think that USAF interceptors CAN interdict hijacked Airliners, and I believe that Mexican National soldiers found on our side of the border may be engaged, but fighting against indigeonous US citizens is prohibited.
Sure. :roll:
One thing in regard to – U.S. Forces Plan Direct Action Against American Citizens
I know so much has been going on – non-stop and seemingly all at the same time – but, are we all forgetting President Obama’s utter contempt for the U.S. Military?
How about using his recent speech at West Point as a place to begin your research.
Dale – what wonderful, insightful comments! I only wish I had scrolled down far enough to see these comments earlier.
First, I want to say how deeply sorry I am to hear that you have cancer. It’s remarkable, really, that we have little if no say as to how our taxpayer dollars are spent when we know how much good could be done if those dollars were poured more heavily into cancer research instead of Obama’s increased security detail (amongst many other things). I truly wish only the best for you.
Regarding your comment: you are right: it is very difficult NOT to assign your own moral judgment to someone else’s behavior or thoughts. Especially if you’ve already concluded that we’re dealing with a crime syndicate, as I’ve done (this idea, by the way, is reinforced daily on the internet). A judgment muddies of the waters and could be a distraction (ooooo, I don’t like that word anymore!) to a thoughtful, predetermined reaction. That would take some doing on my part given the fact that I actually have spent several years researching Obama’s background and everything associated. But, it would be worth it, and I’m going to try.
I know exactly what you mean when you refer to “a heavy cloud hanging over the Nation’s capital.” Although I am in California and not Washington D.C. I, too, have sensed that there’s something very wrong here – much, I think, like the cloud you’ve described. It’s almost as if the atmosphere, itself, causes my bad feeling. Or, maybe it’s because it’s quieter than usual or noisier than usual, or maybe because the sounds I’m hearing are simply different. I don’t know what causes the feeling, but I do know the feeling is real.
Over time, I’ve learned to trust and depend on my senses because I’ve always been detail-oriented and very much attuned to my environment & other activities surrounding me. Interestingly, this feeling has been with me (& growing) since the candidates and others in the Democratic Party began to publicly obfuscate & otherwise act bizarrely during May, 2008.
Up until that point I had never seen anything quite so bizarre as what took place between Bush & Gore in Florida during the repeated, insane vote counts stemming from the 2000 election.
But, lo and behold, the oneupmanship of the hyper-analyzed Democratic “superdelegate” situation – coupled with the ever-changing “static” rules of the “Rules Committee” superseded all that. I now know that it was all trash – made up on the fly to suit the purposes of the Democratic “moment”. Of course all things said and done during that critical period made a mockery out of the Constitution.
That strange feeling first came over me as I listened to the MSM’s redundant analysis of each “superdelegate’s” vote, and their redundant conclusions as to why many of those votes parted from the will of the people. The absurdity of analyzing the vote of a superdelegate – an unconstitutional, totally unnecessary, purposeless entity – is what initiated that strange feeling in me. Now I know that I was right to feel that way because those issues were designed to obfuscate and distract us from noticing the major cheating and other things that were taking place at that time. That feeling remains with me today – but today, it is stronger.
Finally, my remark about the quote cited in your comment: “…there is no need of fighting to overcome this single tyrant, for he is automatically defeated if the country refuses consent to its own enslavement….”
This case here is different because a “consent to enslavement” was not offered up or dangled before us; instead, the existence of our right to “opt-out” or “consent” was purposefully concealed from us. How is it possible to decline giving your consent when you are not aware of or given that opening and do not know you must do so?
Well, I say that we were tricked by the mountain lion wearing the cottontail bunny rabbit costume.
Susan:
Almost any way I look at trying to put some sort of rational to it – like you, I keep coming to the same conclusion. Also, I personally know all these people. I was a journalist for over 20 years (retired for nearly 15 years) – they were in office then, and most are still in office now – there is something sad about all that actually. First, let me say – as people – to a person, they are all nice people. However, they have gone from being “out of touch” and “living in their “own world” – the subject of many jokes for decades, to being strangely isolated removed from reality. I say this from first hand experience – as I lecture from time to time at a University in Washington – and also have a terminal cancer so would travel from my home in Southwest Virginia to the VA hospital in Richmond, VA – and would travel via Amtrak (LOVE TRAVELING BY TRAIN) – laying over for a few hours each trip in Washington – so every opportunity I would try to have lunch with various legislators I know. What is very strange (and I will leave this as just what it is – only a feeling) there is just a strange heavy cloud hanging over the Nation’s capital. I know I am not adequately describing it – but whereas I used to love traveling to DC – now I hate it.
I don’t know if I would consider this a “Democrat” thing – nor “Republican” as well – this is Progressivism – and it transcends both parties, as it is an element in BOTH parties. For example – bringing it back its roots in America – not only was President Wilson was a Progressive – so was President Teddy Roosevelt.
Also, as you look at it more deeply this “modern progressivism” is really, in my opinion, a recycled Fascism.
“if we truly want to come out ahead, we must know and understand their actual game plan so that we can fight back using their own tools.”
The best way to accomplish this is not assign any morality to our judgement of it.
Leave that for historians in the future. We need to gain an understanding of their actions base on simply – “this is what they are doing.” PERIOD.
Overcoming this might be in some respects more simple that we think.
Back in 1552, Etienne de la Boétie wrote;
“Obviously there is no need of fighting to overcome this single tyrant, for he is automatically defeated if the country refuses consent to its own enslavement: it is not necessary to deprive him of anything, but simply to give him nothing; there is no need that the country make an effort to do anything for itself provided it does nothing against itself.”
Regarding the oath of the soldiers.
Keep in mind the “United States” is a corporation. Corporations can, and most do, have constitutions.
Your actual, common law jurisdiction country is, “the united States of America”.
Pay close attention to the inaugural oath of your presidents.
The right wing fanatics come out of the woodwork bad enough we have to deal with Goldman Sachs theiving bankers & idiots at the Fed reserve & congress now we will have red neck militants on the street heavily armed targeting our military as an enemy.
GOD HELP ME WHAT IS GOING ON HERE!!!!!!
I have spent over 4 1/2 yrs. a civilian contractor overseas at numerous military bases in Iraq & Afghan.
this is more of a thinking mans army it would be a huge stretch to believe some marine gunny sgt. or his marines or the 101st or the special forces or the reserve units I also worked with are going to shoot at fellow Americans there are no Chinese or Mexican troops at American military bases .
Anybody who promotes this trash is an irresposible idiot I heard the same thing shortly after Obama was elected & I was in Afghanistan we have enough division & hate in this country due to the incompetence of the past & present adminstration both republican & democrat are to blame start demanding accountability instead of spreading these hate & lies.
Wake up there are legal & effective ways to make changes this is irresponsible bullshit /corner representatives start impeachment proceedings if necessary ,force our politicians keep in mind I did not say leaders to act in our best interests . Remember for the people & by the people can actually work if you do something that is right & effective not the hate mongering presented in this article.
Simply because Europeons gave up their soviernty to the communist, doesn’t mean we will. Europeons are pussies.
Sounds as though the Obama faction is laying the groundwork to blame ‘the people’ in order to cram down more of their agenda . . . of social-economic justice.
I guess I would be concidered an oldster but did you ever concider that to reduce the population of the planet , we must eliminate the breeding age humans now .
i mean I am not going to add to the population. lets get rid of the breeders.
they are not after me dont you guys get it the only reason i am here is to protect you give me the word and I will be in it for whats in it for me
Bob, I appreciate your words, and the efforts you have put forth.
Yet they would indeed be after you as well. If one has the gift of being able to empathize with others or walking a mile in their moccasins to use other words, then you understand that they indeed share our traits, merely amplified as you said earlier.
It is called insanity. Due to what? I have no real clue except a guess of inbreeding. Who knows and does it really matter?
However, you represent knowledge and experience, which they must exterminate. You represent a drain of resources which is intolerable in their minds. Most of them have been trained from birth to think themselves elite, special, and above others in both ability and intelligence, which necessarily breeds both arrogance and contempt.
Such combined with real wealth and its inherent power, makes for a dangerous combination… A definitive case of egocentrism combinative with egomaniacal traits.
IE, you have no traits they would desire in a subject, and possess traits and skills dangerous to their plans.
Just as in the dark ages, for what is coming to work, knowledge must be either strictly controlled or die altogether.
The truly bad thing if something like this were to happen is that many whom would try to escape the situation would die simply from nature….
We as a people have completely forgotten how to even survive without our technology, and without it’s support, most would die.
I suggest for those interested and just for prudence joining frugal’s forums, and checking out the basic survival info and how-to. They also have a great patriot fiction section with several writers publishing their works online.
A good one I have read is called “Surviving With Joe”, and I bring it up here as the author teaches extensively basic survival skills through the story.
I dont see a point of running anywhere unless you plan to resist with firearms. Resist what? Think carefully without sci-fi elements what exactly there is to resist.
Then I suggest respectfully that you buy some glasses.
ahh You kept your spirits :)
Do you have anything against installing “freedom” and “democracy” back home as they did with some 20-30 countries in last 50 years? If it was good for people of Chile, Argentina, Indonesia, Guatemala, Iran, Egypt, Iraq, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Bolivia, Angola, Zaire, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Panama, Cuba, Brazil, Uzbekistan, Nepal, Dominican Republic.. why would it be bad for you? Most are some very poor countries and “American way” really helped them a lot.
“Do you have anything against installing “freedom” and “democracy” back home as they did with some 20-30 countries in last 50 years?”
Nice try. The average American has little or no say about what happens in foreign policy. “Joe the Plumber” as Obummer stated, does not have a voice in such matters, and hasn’t had for a very long time.
‘We speak, they ignore’…ohh sorry.. they ‘take it under advisement’, then just flat ignore us unless it is an election year. This doesn’t even matter if it involves enough money, as was seen with the exit of the Bush’s administration, when the people roared, and were subsequently ignored.
Anyone, or group, that speaks out is labeled as ‘nuts’ in some manner, as ridicule tends to discredit the argument, though it never changes the facts at hand.
Matter of fact, it is not our country’s job to ‘instill OR install’… or especially force, ‘freedom and democracy’ upon anyone. It is not even allowed constitutionally as far as I understand.
I have noticed this “All Americans Are” attitude, which is silly. Are “All French”, “All British” or “All (place your nationality, creed or religion here)”………… anything?
That is NEVER true ANYWHERE for ANYONE.
Forcing unwanted governmental ideals, creeds, or unwarranted actions upon anyone is wrong.
You have my answer, and it is simple, honest, and direct.
NoOne, there was no space to reply under your post. I appreciate your honesty.
Stacy, what do you mean California is lost already? Are you referring to illegal immigration, or are you trying to say that something has happened that has not made national news? I would think you are referring to immigration, but thought I’d clarify. You really shouldn’t make such blanketed statements that could be used by an idiot to proclaim that “something is going on” that we aren’t aware of.
American Truth:
No, California has not been “lost” in the sense you are thinking of—yet, that is….and assuming there’s nothing of which I am not yet aware.
I live in California too & can see for myself that what was once a raging economy has gone downhill in a collapse I would never have believed possible.
In California there’s a big problem stemming from both written and unwritten laws that have undermined our immigration laws, relaxed law enforcement, and quietly authorized “open borders.” In central California where I live, there has been a huge increase in overall criminal activity as well as criminal drug cartel activity.
Over the past year I personally have been robbed twice right in middle of broad daylight. The last robbery was the most egregious of all because it was clear that my house had been “cased” prior to the robbery. This is what happened: we had the garage door open because we were moving some boxes from the garage into the house. While we were doing this – and within a period of no more than 2 minutes – someone walked right into our open garage and walked off with my husband’s Cannondale mountain bike (made in the U.S.A., a rarity) and 2 of my sewing machines (both older, but expensive at the time). None of the items were visible from the street and the total loss amounted to over $10K.
For various reasons, my once very nice, 5-year-old neighborhood is quickly becoming rundown. Daily, there are changes. Overnight it seems that multiple families are suddenly living in a single dwellings; numerous rundown vehicles associated with each multi-family dwelling line the streets, often not in working condition; vehicles are even often parked in the middle of front yards; both property and yards are shown little respect such that graffitti appears here and there (to be removed at the owner’s expense) while yards are overgrown and go untended; trash magically appears in your’s and other people’s yards where there once was none; and there’s a general lack of consideration and respect shown towards others, when it was once just the opposite. Most do not speak English Of those that I’ve met who live with multiple families in a single dwellings (legal, here in California). Moreover, driving around town could be considered “risky business” by some. There’s suddenly a lot of nighttime “cruising” and late night “racing” as Motor vehicle laws are either ignored or purposefully disobeyed. Reckless driving is more of the norm than not.
The population is increasing here so rapidly that you feel as though you can see the increase on a daily basis. Recently a Mexican drug cartel was blamed for the 3-week long fire that destroyed much of the Las Padres National Forest – a beautiful area within 20 miles of my home. It is well-known that these nearby but often inaccessible mountains are littered with armed Mexican drug cartels who locally grow marijuana and make money by selling other types of illegal drugs including methamphetamine.
The Border Patrol wants to do its work – but it can’t. The U.S. Justice Dept steps in to quietly stop any enforcement activity.
This has now gone beyond the point of insanity. All of the laws that we once relied on have been dismantled. I can only smirk when I read (what would normally be encouraging comments) blog comments suggesting enforcement efforts or some other type of legal activity. THAT would be an impossible task when you have – as we do – Eric Holder, America’s top law enforcer, failing to prosecute, ignoring and breaking laws, and dismissing cases against known criminals.
But, the one bright spot is that I really don’t believe that our own armed forces would take direct action against us. Foreign forces, yes – but not our own. For good reason, our military disrespects and dislikes this administration. I just do not believe that they would react on an order coming from Obama. I really don’t. But I have long read about and envisioned foreign forces doing so. In fact, that this would happen was my first response to Obama’s “dithering” on the his Afghanistan decision. It was my gut reaction – but it also made perfect sense.
I am sure that collateral damage (US army devised that term for the rest of us outside US, while spreading “American way of life” all around the world : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_damage) will be sustainable.
Whats the point of killing or torturing innocent unarmed people? Its bizarre. Blackwater on the other hand would do it without blinking, just fill their checks. It doesn’t meter if you are Iraqi, American or Martian. Thats free market economy at its best.
As a human being I wish you personally the best, honestly. And I do think it will be just fine, but after you(plural) stop blaming Obama, open your eyes and stop terrorizing the rest of us.
Also a fundamental system change is advised. Fellowship before profit.
I’m not so fearful of the US Armed Forces as I am of our leader(s) signing some UN Treaty inviting UN troops on American soil to battle American citizens…..if such treaty does not already exist. The Homeland Security’s extremist definition covers all retired US military to they could be targets as well. I don’t know any retired US military that would turn a weapon on me. Do you?
Sooo…,Air strikes by the US military on the citizens of Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, Illinois and Tennessee before March 2010.
You’d think the government would want to at least wait be sure they’ve all paid their taxes on April 15th to get that extra cash or until the Kentucky Derby has its run for the year.
But I guess with the Chinese currently half way across the Pacific headed for their invasion from the west through Hawaii, California, Nevada, Utah, Colorado to get to the “Heartland” and with all of those Mexicans suddenly invading up through Texas and Arizona (like they haven’t done that and are here already) time’s a wastin’.
This former cop, talk show host and wannabe journalist from the “Voices from the Heartland” radio show (not sure if those voices are coming from inside of his head, only his shrink knows for sure) certainly knows how to get the Tin Foil Hat Crowd to whip themselves into an even higher level of frenzy/gullibility over those voices that he’s hearing.
By the way,”Operation Garden Plot” has been on the books since the early sixties.
Awesome reply!!! lol.
We’ve already been invaded from the south, they’ve attacked our econamy, our schools, and jobs. california is already lost.
amen stacey! thats the smartest comment i have read! you understand the real immedit problem to our country. how many of these illigels are insergents? and if this overthrow of the people by the goverment happens then that is were the real threat will come from when the shooting starts!!! not the american military!
Their familiaes live in the very comunities they will be attacking.
Their families neighbors will kill their familiaes if they so much as think about it . I dont think the military personel is that stupid . I could be wrong, never hurts to be prepared.
Dont panic. When US bombed my country in 1999. I knew it wont be so harsh and monstrous as was with German bombardment 60 years ago. And I was right. Atrocities were done against my people, but not nearly as harsh as Germans, Austro-Hungary, Turkey knew to do in their time.
So please stop imagining that role of military in this scenario could be to wipe and kill everyone. In US case military would be used only as a better equipped police force in a country saturated with injustices and LOADS of firearms among populace.
Susan,
It is 5:30 on a Sunday morning (where I am sitting) drinking my first, of many cups of coffee and reading your comment. Of ALL the comments on this story to date, to me, your’s has been the most disturbing. Disturbing because I really don’t know what to say to assure you that “things will be just fine.”
I know that nothing of what I write will be of an adequate consoling nature.
Let me first suggest that what is happening today (well beyond the scope of this notion of reading U.S. military forces to control the population – as plans, provisions, and scenarios for that prospect have been around since before long I was born – I’m 64. The thought – both here in this country and in others as well, of “Will this happen?” or “When will this happen?” is equally as old. The short answer, is nobody really knows until it does – sometimes it does happen, more often than not it doesn’t.
In your comment, you “named names” – the “villains” as it were. Yet, to be blunt, the quality of their character is actually only a reflection of each and every one of ours – only expanded.
We tend to do that, as a species – look for that person to hold responsible for all of this – the plight and peril that we presently find ourselves in.
I often tell audiences that I lecture too (well, the one’s that haven’t fallen asleep) that the most deadly and heinous weapon ever developed by our species is a weapon that each of us possess ..a weapon responsible for more death and destruction that anything yet imagined. Yet one that is nearly impossible to use on yourself – It is your index finger. “It was HIS fault!”, “It was HER fault!”, It was THEIR fault!, yet when was the last time you saw someone turn that finger in to their own chest and say, “It was MY fault!”
I am reminded of a young law student at the University of Orleans who wonder the same thing – “How could all this be happening?” – “Who’s to blame?” He then developed this fundamental
insight that every tyranny must necessarily be grounded upon general popular acceptance. In short, the bulk of the people themselves, for whatever reason, acquiesce in their own subjection. If this were not the case, no tyranny, indeed no governmental rule, could long endure.
The young man was Étienne de La Boétie, and the year was 1552.
200 years later, Scottish philosopher, economist, and historian, David Hume independently discovered this principle and wrote;
“Nothing appears more surprising to those, who consider human affairs with a philosophical eye, than the easiness with which the many are governed by the few; and the implicit submission, with which men resign their own sentiments and passions to those of their rulers.”
It has been said that a democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
Someone once wrote; “Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.” Exactly where we are on this cycle of decline, I’ll leave that decision to your own designs, for me, I would place my money on the last one.
Roman poet Horace once said: “Our parents, worse than our grandparents, gave birth to us who are worse than they, and we shall in our turn bear offspring still more evil.”
I share your concern for your grown children – I also have grown children – 10 of them, ALL daughters – They will, as will yours all be as the are suppose to be. I understand your concern to “protect them” – but understand, your children were your children ONLY until the moment of their birth – then the are their own person, with your role being that of mentor – assigned with the daunting task of loving and mentoring your child to the best of your ability. Therein lies the key phrase “to the best of your ability.” My oldest step-daughter would tell you that she is who she is today because of me. I must admit this surprises me, never knowing that while growing up rolling her while saying “…OH, Daddy!” she was actually absorbing anything.
Perhaps it is necessary to loose something to truly appreciate it. History seems to prove that axiom true. Perhaps it is just our turn to learn that lesson once again – and perhaps too, we will learn something from it this time – that Freedom and Liberty do not come with, nor ever have had an automatic pilot. Maybe that is the most important lesson we can pass on to our children.
I do apologize to you and to everyone who reads these comments for the length of all this – but I am old and I do ramble.
I feel better every time I see an “oldster” whose life efforts have not gone in vain. If there were more “old” people like you all over the world and less zombies, things would be much much better. With death of television, people like you might not be so rare in the future. Hopefully.
Cheers Dave :)
*Dale
I know all of this sounds crazy and, if so, then it can’t be true. Right? Wrong!
The shadow criminals (yes, it’s basically a crime syndicate that controls the United States….Surprise!) have exploited the obvious “craziness” of their actions to our detriment! They’ve not only called us crazy – but they’ve called us every other name in the book! Just think: if it sounds crazy…..and if the mainstream media is silent & fails to report IN UNISON any of our claims….then we are sufficiently discredited and everything we say comes into question. I’d say it worked out pretty good for those slimeballs, wouldn’t you?
This is precisely what has happened to those who know the facts and therefore sit in opposition to the U.S. “government”. They have frequently used the phrase “conspiracy theorists” to describe those in oppostion even though none of the dirty deeds were thought up by, initiated or fostered by us, and even though what has transpired is now FACT and not THEORY.
I am 58 years old and I can unequivocally promise you that every American who is at least my age and is not in some way “connected” to the government, has been indoctrinated with a bunch of flat-out lies for the bulk of his/her life. I’ve known about this stuff for about 18 months but, even so, I am still reeling from the shock of it all.
And I’m still learning things. Two days ago I learned that the U.N. was not designed to do the things we were taught; it was designed and implemented by the international bankers as a tool FOR the international bankers.
“Designed by them – for them.” Remember that slogan because it applies to most anything in this new world that we live in. As does the slogan “Too big to believe.” Think of this slogan as a related counterpart of the “Too-big-to-fail” idiocy. These criminals relied heavily on the fact that people tend to easily dismiss and/or disbelieve ideas that are “too big to believe.”
I really do hope that the claims made in this article will never come to pass. However, I’ve read about this for a long time and I’ve also learned from experience that – in this case at least – the more crazy it is, the more true it becomes.
I don’t know what to do about any of this. There’s not much you can do when the rule of law (as we know it) has been dismantled. Eric Holder really does suck just as much as all the others.
I worry so much for my children’s sake even though they are grown and out of the house. Just don’t know how to protect them.
Thanks, criminals Kissinger, Volkar, Brzezinski, Bernancke (Bilderberger), and all the many others that belong to the criminal syndicates known as The Council on Foreign Relations (“CFR”), Bilderberg Group and Trilateral Commission! Just thanks a whole hell of a lot!
Susan you named only a few
The neighbors you love and respect are selling you and your children into slavery
There are over two million NGOs (Non Government Organizations) in North America, The most anti American of them all Your frendly neighborhood ROTARY International.
This is war . Take the ones closest to you out of power . Go to your county commission and your local land use , development committee, licencing committe etc. and separate them form these special interest marxist groups.
Many are pastors etc. they plan genocide for you family ….. Ive been fighting this for over thirty years. The time is now!
PLEASE TELL ALL AMERICANS TO CALL OUT THEIR CITIZENS STATE GUARD TO PROTECT THEIR RIGHTS /LEGALLY /ALL FREEDOM LOVING PEOPLE ON EARTH PLEASE PRAY AND HELP USA/PLEASE TELL ALL AMERICANS YOU KNOW TO LEGALLY BRING BACK ALL UNITED STATES TROOPS TO HELP FIGHT CORRUPTION AT HOME/ ASAP
James says:
11/12/2009 at 9:13 pm
Yes, because we all know US soldiers are brainwiped before being allow to serve and each and every one of them will kill their fellow citizens without hesitation
James, you are a typical lefty, hate the military but when you are under attack you want us to protect you. We might not show up and then you will be calling us names again.
I told my son about this and he doesn’t think the military would do this, the Oathkeepers are quite huge and as I was in the military during WW2, U.S. Marine Corps. he said he would trust the Oathkeepers. We must pray about this. God Bless America
They are sending the American troops to Afganistan and presently have troops from UK, Australia, Japan, and Mexico here in place, etc. These troops by far would have much less, if no quams, about firing on Americans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwwmRLz6U9E
You know, Scott “GreatScott” hit on something VERY important – “The Greman society back in the 1930’s was was one of the highest educated in the world and yet Hitler (Through the Intl Bankers) was able to pull this off.”
A book I can not recommend too highly – They Thought They Were Free – by Milton Mayer – published in 1955 and is still readily available.
In 1951, Mayer, who happened to be Jewish reporter from Chicago returned to Germany. This time Milton Mayer had a different goal: to interview ten Nazis so thoroughly he really felt knew them. Only then, he believed, might he understand how it came to be that the Germans exterminated millions of their fellow citizens.
It was a disturbing book then. It still is.
The ten interviewees were quite the diverse crew: a janitor, soldier, cabinetmaker, Party headquarters office manager, baker, bill collector, high school teacher, high school student, policeman, Labor front inspector. INteresting what he writes;
“These ten men were not men of distinction. They were not opinion makers…. In a nation of seventy million, they were the sixty-nine million plus. They were the Nazis, the little men…”
Another quote from his book – one of the interviewees told him;
“What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security….”
As Mayer’s Nazi friend noted, “I do not see, even now [how we could have stopped it]. Many, many times since it all happened I have pondered that pair of great maxims, Principiis obsta and Finem respice – ‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘consider the end.’ But one must foresee the end in order to resist, or even see, the beginnings. One must foresee the end clearly and certainly and how is this to be done, by ordinary men or even by extraordinary men?”
It was published by the University of Chicago Press .. at their website is an excerpt from the book:
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html
he more you read, the more your jaw drops. How many people did it require to take over a country? “A few hundred at the top, to plan and direct…. a few thousand to supervise and control…. a few score thousand specialists, eager to serve…a million to do the dirty work….”
This is the most insane Idea that I have ever seen
on the Internet, so far ! Come on, it’s on a crazy
Russan web site !
Ray,
you might well be right. If you are comfortable in thinking that this is “insane” – then continue to think that. For me, I really don’t know …to think that the is such a plan – I would say most likely there is – But understand that plans of this nature are not unusual – through history governments everywhere – from any point on the political/ideological continuum have “drawn up” such plans – so that in itself is not really a concern – but now that you know it is a possibility – however unlikely or remote – then, if you choose, you are now armed with a bit more information – giving you something that might make certain things that happen in the months ahead make more sense – even if NOTHING were to happen of this nature – then you have gain a very valuable lesson in at least being more aware of the things that happen around you.
But (and really not pertaining to this) I would caution you to remember, historically, “sanity” and “government” are more often than not, a contradiction in terms.
Ray are you on crack or something!?!? The EU Times is not Russian! And even if hypothetically it was Russian, what was that supposed to mean? That Russians are just dumb animals and that their websites don’t matter? You’re an anti-Russian racist pig!
I have news for all of you who are citing our Constitution…it doesn’t mean SQUAT. Do you remember when Bush said, “It’s just a god damn piece of paper”? I would have never admitted it in a million years until I started law school and have become somewhat of a Constitutional expert.
This is the biggest fallacy ever fed to the American people, and in my eyes, was the beginning of preparations for global dominance. It’s like the game of RISK. It moves slowly, but deliberately, and in the end, if you have planned and executed correctly, you win.
If we continue to believe that our Constitution will protect us, it will be the final nail in our coffin. I guarantee, that in the future, the great lies about our Constitution will be the center of all great legends that will be told about the 2nd American Revolution. IF it happens.
Do not act….lie in wait, and wait for them. Then it will be self defense and justified. If you act, like they want you to, to instill martial law, you will only be another pawn in their twisted game. Prepare, just in case, but do not make the first move. That is what “they” are depending on.
:( I’m in the U.S. This is really troublesome to me. None of this has ever been reported on US television.
You are correct. All of the US media is state run. It’s a BIG TRICK because most citizens don’t know that what they’re watching is nothing more than state-sponsored propaganda. FoxNews will give you many of the facts – but even they are not telling us the whole story.
Murdoch, the top guy at Fox, happens to be a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Strange that he would allow his network to take it this far, but not quite far enough. It’s as if they’ve been told they must do or not do certain things to avoid being shut down.
But, You’ll never hear Fox or any of the other media mentioning the “CFR”, Bilderberg or Trilateral Commission. They passively elude to the groups’ existences by calling them “financial elite”, “global elite,” “powerful special interests”, and other things – but never do you hear them mention their names. I’ve repeatedly written in & asked the media why they refuse to call the groups by their known names. Funny: I’ve never received any answers. Even from Fox.
FYI: The US government has also started scrubbing adverse information from websites and/or issuing error 404s meaning that YOU HAVE BEEN DENIED ACCESS to that website. Scary, huh?
Those of you that believe U.S. Soldiers and Marines would fire on American citizens and take their rights away are sadly mistaken. Oh sure there will be a few loyalists but most will not, I used to wear the uniform, and I can tell you I would not follow orders like that, in fact I would have turned my gun on whoever would have followed orders like that, and then the A$$hole who gave ’em. check out oathkeepers.com
It’s Freemasons folks. They are in total control. Go to http://www.apollyonrising2012.com
Nothing will stop them from thier intended purpose.
Get educated now.
Consider this……… We have several hundred thousand troops overseas in wars and permanent military installations. Most of our military might is in Iraq and Afghanistan leaving the US vulnerable. If civil war breaks out the US government can call on the UN to pacify the masses. This would allow a million troops from foreign countries to step foot on US soil and they’d have no problem shooting Americans. At the same time our fighting troops will be seperated and stuck overseas not able to return home leaving the US even more vulnerable. It’s will not be the US military fighting American civilians, but the United Nations making their grap for total control of the world. One thing they fail to consider is that Americans are hard to fight in other countries, just wait and see how hard we fight to protect our own soil.
That is a great point, “rot_soldier” – I don’t know what country you are writing from – but your comment brought to mind a movie of a good number of years ago “Red Dawn” – just a general theme of that film.
I have heard from several “sources” – LOL, LONG time friends I made back in my journalism days – who are command level officers at Forces Command – I am hearing the same thing … however, I am also hearing and sensing a growing dislike (to put it mildly) for this administration. I have a feeling that when thing come apart at the seams in this country – and I fear that is no longer just an “if” – they will not be siding with whom the central governments thinks they will.
Still, reading some of comments on this piece – or mention this in conversation you get the “this won’t happen” – “conspiracy theory” reaction. While this might be true – I would suggest a book;
They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html
it is still very available — do read the excerpt at the University of Chicago website. (the publisher of the book)
Dale, thanks for the suggestion on the book. I’ll definitely check it out. Red Dawn was an awesome movie and could easily happen. What I had suggested had just come to mind when I read the article, because I am an US Army Vet and I know for a fact that almost no US military personnel would fire on their own people. Our police might, heh, but not our military. So, they only way to pull this off would be to bring in the UN. This all seems so orchestrated. It’s like their moving their chess pieces across the board setting us up for the check mate. I get the “this won’t happen” response from my wife. I’ve explained to her and many others that if I and so many others were completely wrong about this takeover, then we’d all look a little foolish, but really no foul. On the other hand, what if, just what if we are right. We were right, but everyone kept saying we were wrong and one day our world is turned upside down and theirs nothing any of us can do about it. Or, we were right and prepared for the worst case scenario and CAN do something about it. There’s a book that I intend on reading soon called “Thinking the Unthinkable. The Riddles of Classic Social Theories by Charles Lemert. It covers these types of issues where people plan for the worst cases to insure survival. Check it out if you get a chance.
Be safe and be prepared.
I agree, with both Dale and Rot. Remove the US troops to prevent them from reacting and then get down to “business” using foreign personnel.
I knew all along there was a “good” (as per Obama, but subversive to us) reason that Obama always went out of his way to befriend terrorists, despots and tyrants. A gut feeling.
And, oh yeah! How nicely it all fits together with Eric Holder dismissing the Black Panther case and the recent news that Gitmo detainees will be “moved” to a new Gitmo in Chicago. Wow! That’s fantastic! Everybody can coordinate, collude & conspire against US – the nice, little people!
In fact, my gut also told me something was fishy when Obama started his abhorrent Afghanistan “dithering” campaign. Last September I told my husband that I believed Obama’s decision would coincide with Copenhagen, and that I thought he would eventually relent, but that I had a bad feeling about our vulnerabilities should he send more troops overseas.
Now, my gut tells me that Obama used those “dithering” months to organize (using his infamous community organizing skills…) and perhaps deploy UN troops. And, I believe he has kept much – if not all – of this information from the US military, who I believe he despises (and the feeling must be mutual!) [It’s unfortunate, but his is the way it is with this Obama guy…..you must always look behind what he’s says he’s doing, & put 2 + 2 together to arrive at your own conclusion because the real reason is always much different than stated.]
Does anyone know if – given the current numbers of troops deployed in addition to those about to be deployed – there would be troops remaining after the Afghanistan deployment? We must be down to skeleton levels about now.
Interesting there’s nothing on this coming from the US propaganda media, as usual. (I live in California so understand that all the mainstream media is state run except for FoxNews, although even FoxNews hasn’t told us everything….).
Again, everything that’s happening now is as a result of the infiltration into our media & political system by those that are members of the Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg Group & Trilateral Commission. I hate to mention this because it scares me – but some of our directly involved, high-level military officials are also members of these groups.
Here is a youtube link to the audio that the article refers to;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyFgS3G90Q
This is frightening - frightening because what he is saying is highly plausible – However, I think perhaps the only caveat to this is that I wonder if the US Military would even side with the central government considering how it has been so maligned by this administration.
I would wonder if they would react in the opposite direction. – At least I would hope so.
I have had a growing sense that perhaps – just perhaps one of the reasons that Congress seemingly acts in total disregard to the will of the “people” is not that “the American people will forget all this by next November’s elections” – rather, that they don’t envision elections even begin held next year. I so hope I am wrong.
Dale:
You are absolutely correct in thinking that Congress et al has already determined that the 2010 election will not happen. Think about it: there’s no way these people would have acted so badly over the past two years unless they already knew that they would never again face their constituents and that the 2010 elections would not happen. Given these weirdos and their despicable behavior – it makes total sense.
But, my thinking on this subject was that this was a one-shot deal for the Democrats: they knew they had to win this no-election endeavor or be faced with an implosion and/or the destruction of the Democratic Party.
As I see it, the Democrats’ plan that would ensure no future elections would necessarily involve eradicating the strongest opposition party (probably citizen opposition as well), while simultaneously using ACORN’s organizing “abilities” + illegal immigration non-policies to sharply drive the Democratic base up up up. It wouldn’t take long for all opposition parties to fade into nothingness with the Democratic Party blanketing the country. What party would keep trying and vying when there is zero hope for any gain?
I agree that the “no-election” scenario offers us the worst possible outcome. After all, we can always have “hope” if a future election is part of the story. But, if we truly want to come out ahead, we must know and understand their actual game plan so that we can fight back using their own tools.
And, to me, it does not make sense that they would go to all this trouble only to fail at their plan, and then step calmly aside when voted out of office. I just cannot picture those evil people accepting defeat so easily and then so casually walking away! These people are, after all, people that have recklessly & repeatedly enacted harmful legislation that the citizens oppose in large numbers! Moreover, every act undertaken by this administration has been taken in deep disregard of the Constitution. They’ve given us no reason whatsoever to believe that they would suddenly invoke the Constitution in order to participate in the 2010 midterm elections.
Sadly, and in all honesty, I believe we must act as though their goal is to avoid (at all costs) the 2010 midterms as well as all future elections.
I don’t know what to do about this beyond thinking that perhaps we should mobilize while we still can?!?? I do know that it’s going to take a lot more than letter writing and other types of civilized behavior to move those people out of our government. The 350++ letters I wrote to Congress didn’t help one single bit.
It did serve to paint a big target on you. Unfortunate but true.
No evidence presented. No links to sources. Are you people off your meds? Who the hell is Greg Everson, and why would anyone believe him? What are his bonafides? Good Lord, what a bizarre fever dream.
Thanks, Paul. This website is unbelievable. Just post whatever you want with no one substantiated bit of evidence. All hearsay….and not even good hearsay. “Everson cited verifiable information confirmed by an active duty US Air Force Colonel, three chiefs of Police, a local Sheriff, State Troopers in 3 neighboring Midwest states and a Federal agent he has known for twenty years.” Oh, well that’s all the proof I need. lmao. Get some fresh air people.
I’m so tired of rational thought being thrown out the window on every issue brought up in today’s age. Your either a full blown “the end is near!!” type of thinker or a person who believes that everything is just a conspiracy and holds no weight.
Personally this seems so far fetched it’s laughable. General police action I could maybe see, but full blown combat and offensive military operations performed against U.S. citizens? Please…
The Greman society back in the 1930’s was was one of the highest educated in the world and yet Hitler (Through the Intl Bankers) was able to pull this off. I would not exactly call the American society of our time “Highly Educated” due in part to the Federalazation of our so called public education system. Think about it, if it could happen in Germany, why couldn’t it happen here?
Turn the Tv off and go to the Library and read the “Creature from Jekyll Island”. The story abput the creation of the Federal Reserve. We do not live in a country that you think you do.
Its refreshing to see that someone uses gray matter between ears :-D
Might I remind those doubting Thomas’ of Ruby Ridge, Waco, Gresham,Wounded knee, Tigerton, there are way too many government agents and agency’s willing to fire on American civilians. What happens when Obama arms the MEXICAN gangbangers and tells them open season on anyone they think is a threat to them or him? We do not want to take the first step, then Obama can order marshal law, we do not want that. First lets take them in the polls, then when they try to ignore the vote, we take them on with might. They are cowards and have to have someone else do the dirty work. Don’t help them by giving them cause to shut the country down.
Who in the left wrote this crud anyway? Defend the constitution first. This is embedded in our men and woman in the military even though it does’nt mean a damn to Washington. Sorry, their on OUR side!
Teabagger from Florida :)
Documented proof is needed. Anyone can make comments and I tend to agree with the writer – this may be true however, documentation helps. This has been planned since 1966 and here is the documentation:
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/141413
If this administration were that foolish, they would find that the majority of the military will turn on them. The military I have known for the past 20 years will not tollerate an order to turn on its citizens.
This is also the reason we have the second amendment. I do not think that anyone outside the USA has any idea how many gun owners there are here. Yes we could not stand up to the technology of todays aircraft and the munitions they carry, but I have not met a pilot yet that would use that on his own country.
I hope this is just a poorly stated theory by someone with just enough info to come to his own conclusions. However, I have no doubt in my mind that every government on this earth has a plan in place to react to a civil uprising.
I pray that nothing else passes our current congress until after the 2010 elections.
I wouldn’t bet on all the “high tech crap” of the US Military. After all…look how long it took us to expel a mere 10,000 insurgents in Iraq…and we still have not done it.
There are 80 million gun owners in America. 10% of those are armed to the teeth. Think about it…8 MILLION PEOPLE with military style small arms. If 10,000 in Iraq locked it up…what would 8 MILLION do?
America will fall…….
Dont be so harsh. Military could also be used to “modify” value system and “service” certain degenerated and overpowered parts of elite. Ordinary people cannot be targets. They are already on the bottom, sadly. Just one side of the scenario coin that most people here miss.
I read this article and I tend to believe what is going on behind closed doors by the US government. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if something of this nature occurs. The US government is controlled by members of the CFR in all branches. When the American public finally gets hit in the wallet, all hell will break loose.
Well, a few things here. One, the 45-60 hasn’t passed, the story didn’t come from EU, it came from Kansas. Greg EVENSEN is an award winning former Kansas State Trooper and Kansas Marshal. I wouldn’t say take everything at face value, do some research. Listen to the interview on youtube, then make up your mind.
This story came from the EU…. This is Bullshit
It is more fear mongering than anything else but like I said in that other story about the coming civil war in America, I think Obama would just be stupid to try it now. He needs his police force in place which hasn’t started yet. The Military will not support him if he tries this this soon. Not even woith a crisis. Look at that online game that is all over the net google this ‘2011 Obama’s Coup Fails’ it is a real game that RT interviewed on this very topic. Look in their community section for the interview. The scenario in that game is after the 2010 elections Obama tries omething. That seems more likely.
This is nonsense. I will enjoy reminding everyone of that after the 45-60 days have expired and nothing has happened. Yes, we have an inexperienced pOTUS and a corrupt amateur administration. But this will never happen. Just be patient and vote the democrats out of power in 2010 and 2012, and all of this will just be a bad memory.
so why are there videos on youtube over the past weeks showing loads of military equiptment being moved by train . NORTHCOM canadian military into america . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5-99vTdqZM
And foreign military (chinese that I have seen, in (formally) closed US military bases, training with US arms and equipment.
lol You are worse then Soviets. They at least openly stood under one party. You also have one party, business party. Single party, that doesn’t appear on “elections”. Its not a democracy, its called plutocracy. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy)
not likely to happen .. global socialism will come, but disintegration of the united states is not likely due to its importance in the global economy .. most likely is that the USA will diminish slowly over time as other economies grow and become less dependent upon the USA. Of course, conspiracies usually have some truth, and no doubt that the government does have emergency in case there is civil war. It is a very remote possibility.
I feel bad if it does happen . The military wants to remember there is alot more then a million hard core Veterans out there that won’t take kindly to the military shooting at there family members. I hate to say it I would with out a question be first in line to protect all of my family members .I pry to god it won’t happen . I think first in line would be those in power . They would find they would not be in power for long………. All its takes is a good rifle and scope and a firm hand………………….
Yes, because we all know US soldiers are brainwiped before being allow to serve and each and every one of them will kill their fellow citizens without hesitation :roll:
:cry: James.. you should realize that they won’t be killing their fellow citizens, they will be silencing domestic terrorists.. like Ron Paul supporters (according to leaked Homeland Security report).
Go ahead and roll your eyes, I weep for those whose eyes are so wide shut.
Seth you are right – the one important thing we need to remember is that the troops swear to uphold the CONSTITUTION of The United States (not any one particular administration) – similar to the same oath that members of congress take, in the “upholding” sense. – WE CAN SEE Which group honors that oath.
“… against all enemies foreign and domestic” … I think I would rather see a scenario where the US military walked into both houses of Congress and escorted ALL members (both parties) back to their home districts – and even have transportation visit each of their Washington homes and gently pack up all their belongings and “move” them home. Since I am a nice fellow and this is MY fantasy – I would provide them all with their expected pensions PROVIDED that they ALL NEVER run for an elected office, on ANY level again.
Direct our Soldiers to Oath Keepers.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/
Or… how about we do our constitutional duty and try them for treason instead of escorting them home and giving them a pension for the rest of their lives? I hope the majority of Americans are not as spineless as you.
And just who do you think will do the honors? Eric Holder, the nation’s top law enforcement officer – you know, the guy that dismisses every case that would expose and/or work against this administration?
The US Constitution has been subverted, perverted and quashed. This administration hasn’t done one thing within the boundaries of the Constitution. All their actions have been taken in violation of the Constitution and to US rule of law.
Understand that the Constitution is now basically null and void. Understand that we are NOT operating within the known rule-of-law framework.
Also understand that, with this group, you can’t come to the table with any assumptions or preconceived notions.
And what Judge uses the Constitution to base their decisions? If the Federal Judges, did, Judge David Carter would have Obama already disqualified to be POTUS.
the Federal Judges are just as corrupt as the rest of the Federal Government.
It’s a wonderful fantasy, Dale, I love it! I guess I’m not as nice as you as I’d only provide them with good kick in the butt on their way out the door.
Start making signs that state the oathes taken by our military and start hanging them in public places. Remind our military that they are citizens also and what affects the citizen will effect them and their families.
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
James, your an idiot! I was in the military for 27 years and wouldn’t think of supporting anything such as this and neither would any other veteran I know.
i know ppl that are currently in the military and they dont think the way they’re supposed to anymore. i asked them if they would follow orders to kill/detain americans and they said they would because they are upholding the oath-“both foreign and domestic.” they said that americans would be stupid to revolt against their superior fire power. they believe they work for the administration and not the american ppl. sad but true. :cry: