Free Speech Death Watch Alert: “Interview with Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff,” by S.M. Steinitz for profil (Austria’s equivalent to “Time” magazine and “Der Spiegel”):
“I Am Against Dialogue”
A criminal complaint is being filed against Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff for “hate speech” under Austrian law, essentially the same thing that Susanne Winter was convicted of early this year.
Elisabeth gave a presentation about Islam at an FPÖ-organized seminar, and said some of the usual things that anti-jihad advocates say when they talk about Islam. A left-wing magazine, which had planted someone in the audience, caused charges to be brought against her at the same time as they publicized it in their magazine.
Elisabeth held the controversial Islam Seminar at the FPÖ-political academy. Charges of defamation of a religious group have been filed against the daughter of a diplomat. This is her only interview in which she explains her views.
Mrs. Sabaditsch-Wolff, are you afraid of Muslims?
No, I am afraid of political Islam, which is massively gaining influence in Europe. That is what I am against.
What is your goal?
I want to preserve Europe and its democratic and secular values.
What bothers you about the Islamic way of life?
Islamic doctrine discriminates against women and non-Muslims. Islamic law, or shariah, cannot be reconciled with democratic principles and universal human rights.
Do you see the need for that?
There are powerful groups who are working towards the Islamization of Europe. That is a fact. What can we gain from closing our eyes and ignoring this? Even Libyan leader Muammar Ghadafi says: “There are signs that Allah will grant victory to Islam in Europe without swords, without guns, without conquest. We don’t need terrorists, we don’t need homicide bombers. The 50+ million Muslims [in Europe] will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.” A head of state confirms what our politicians deny. What else has to happen until we finally get it?
There are people who see the growth of Islam in Europe as an opportunity for a completely re-engineered pluralistic society.
The vision of a pluralistic society does not withstand a reality check. Show me one example where this has been a success. Wherever Muslims have been given the opportunity for self-organization they have established parallel societies. See Berlin-Kreuzberg, see Lyon. See also Great Britain, where parts of shariah have been implemented.
Do you really think that Austrian culture is endangered?
I see signs of an erosion of our way of life. In large cities massive changes are evident in the streets. There are discussions about a ban on teaching the Turkish sieges of Vienna; St. Nicholas is banned from visiting children in [public] kindergartens.
And you want to change that.
Yes, very much. But why is that so bad? In Bhutan, the king is applauded because he allows only a certain number of foreigners into the country. He prescribes a certain dress code and mandatory cultural events. Bhutan is a small country that wants to retain its cultural identity in a globalized world. Austria is also a small country with similar challenges. Why is the one country commended and the other berated?
According to NEWS, you defamed Islam. That is why NEWS has filed charges citing defamation of religion. Your reply?
One can report anyone to the authorities. I am not guilty of defamation. And even if some consider my words harsh, I definitely did not make them in a public forum since the seminars were held before a group of people who registered beforehand.
You are accused of making the following statements, among others: “Muslims rape children because of their religion”, or “Mohammed enjoyed contact with children.” Why the polemics?
This is a clever strategy. You and all the others who are now crying wolf are locked in a choice of words. As a result you are able to maneuver yourselves away from the main point. It is a fact that Mohammed married a six-year-old at the age of 56. To this day men in Islamic countries view this as legitimizing marriage to a minor, thereby causing rape and life-long trauma. This is the problem we need to address, and not how circumscribe this bitter reality.
Are you afraid that these customs will become part of Europe?
There are groups who have this goal. In every Islamic system you find that human rights of young girls are in grave danger. Look at Saudi Arabia. Look at the former socialist South Yemen. When Khomeini came to power he lowered the minimum age for girls to get married to nine years.
You are being accused of Islamophobia. Does this bother you?
A phobia is an irrational fear. My worries are not irrational, but justified. One of these days our politicians will have to recognize this fact. People like me are not right-wing xenophobes.
But what are you?
We are people defending the principles of freedom and equality in a secular society. I criticize political Islam and its political manifestations. No democratic country can take this right away from anyone.
Why do critics of Islam nearly always use polemics?
And what [if not polemics] did the article in NEWS use? There are comments about my body, there is ridicule about how I eat. Sexist attacks below the belt against women making unpopular statements are a manifestation of a male-dominated system. There are many critics of Islam. However, it’s always women like Brigitte Bardot or Oriana Fallaci who are attacked below the belt.
Leading politicians have sharply criticized your seminars. Are they all members of a male-dominated system?
These politicians do not know the contents of my seminars. All they know are out-of-context quotes from an article in a glossy magazine. I also find the reaction of these politicians strange. They get away with much worse.
For instance?
SPÖ secretary general Laura Rudas, who calls for a public ban of the headscarf. I would not do something like that.
On the other hand, you are being compared to Susanne Winter (FPÖ). She was convicted of defamation because she accused the prophet Mohammed of pedophilia.
I do not want to be compared to Susanne Winter. There are no similarities between us. She is an active politician, she acts in a public forum. I do not.
You hold your seminars for the FPÖ-Political Academy.
But I am not politically active. I am also not a member of FPÖ. What I do is offer seminars on the topic of Islam and I can be booked. The FPÖ academy did just that. I do not want to comment on Susanne Winter’s statements. But in my opinion she does not know much about Islam.
In what way are you qualified to hold these seminars?
I have an M.A. in Diplomatic and Strategic Studies. I spent part of my childhood in Islamic countries, worked and lived there. I have personally experienced life in Islamic societies and I see evidence of a trend towards the Islamization of Europe.
How do you view yourself?
I am a mother and a feminist. I want my daughter and my niece to grow up in freedom and dignity. I want the same for all Austrian citizens, and that includes Austrian Muslims.
In your seminar you do not distinguish between Muslims and Islamists.
Oh yes, I do. I do that because I know how much Muslims worldwide are suffering under the Islamic yoke. I say that in all my seminars, only NEWS did not bother to quote that. Why do think so many Muslims try to escape from Islamic countries like Iran and Afghanistan? Because life there is unbearable.
So you want to liberate Muslims from Islam?
Muslims have to liberate themselves; from this static and tenacious Islam that is hellbent on following norms from the seventh century. The result is that wherever there are Islamic societies there is no progress, but steps backwards, especially in the realm of human rights and democracy.
But isn’t the referendum on the minaret ban in Switzerland also a step backwards?
The result of the referendum is the best proof that politicians should finally take the Islamization of Europe seriously.
What do you think about the reaction from the Islamic world regarding the referendum?
The Islamic world leads in discrimination against religious minorities. Christians are persecuted and discriminated against in all Islamic countries. You have to remember that the Christian culture is not one that immigrated or is foreign; it is indigenous. There is a complete ban on building churches in Turkey. And now Erdogan speaks of discrimination against Muslims in Switzerland? Where are Muslims being discriminated against in Switzerland? The European elite allows the Islamic countries to walk all over themselves while bowing down to them.
Are you in favor of a ban on minarets in Austria?
I will not answer that. Instead, I will quote the now so agitated Turkish prime minister who once said, “The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers.”
Do you feel misunderstood?
Above all, I believe that my rights are being curtailed. Currently I do not notice that I have freedom of speech or opinion.
Haven’t you yourself strained this right?
No, I don’t believe I did. Above all, I did not speak publicly. What is all the commotion about?
But now it has become public.
I only say out loud what others are thinking. But these concerns are not taken seriously.
Are you against a dialogue with the Islamic world?
I am against a dialogue with political Islam. I am, however, in favor of a broad discussion about human rights and personal freedoms.
You criticize Islam as discriminating. What do mean by that?
Just one example: In Islam non-Muslims are called kuffar, non-believers. These infidels are all defamed and not considered equal. This is offensive. Where are the protests?
What are your negative experiences in Islamic countries?
People in these countries are continuously restricted. This leads to aggressions and reporting people to the authorities and other absurd situations. For example, a (Coptic) member of the Austrian embassy in Kuwait was verbally abused at the post office because he was mailing Christmas letters. It was Ramadan and he must not eat or drink publicly. He said, surprised, “But I am not eating!” “Oh yes, you are. You are licking off the adhesive part of the stamp.” This is daily routine in an Islamic society.
Can you really use a single occurrence as an example?
I can tell you hundreds of similar single occurrences. This story is not a single case, but a social program.
Will you continue with your seminars?
Yes. There are requests coming in from all over Austria. I will continue to defend my right to freedom of speech. I will not be gagged.
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No ADL, No Hate Law Enforcement
‘If ADL’s credibility is destroyed, hate laws will become unenforceable’
The Anti-Defamation League is not backing down from its outrageous claim that millions of Americans are conspiring against Obama! ADL’s recent report, Rage in America: Anti-Government Conspiracies, claims millions of anti-Obama Americans, consumed with “toxic rage,” will say almost anything necessary to bring the President down.
But spokeswoman Myrna Shinbaum says the backlash against ADL is simply a misunderstanding: “The comments are coming from people who have not read the report…They’re reacting to the media spin and not its substance.” (Jewish Telegraph Agency, “Conservatives Rap ADL Report on Anti-Government Anger, Dec. 1)
What “media” is misrepresenting ADL? It’s certainly not the mainstream liberal media that usually works in lockstep to give ADL initiatives maximum publicity. With only a handful of exceptions, the media has said nothing, pro or con, about Rage in America. Why? Big media is embarrassed by ADL. If its claim that millions of Americans are conspirators were not so sinister, it would be laughable.
The “media” to which Shinbaum refers is a string of recent articles: Jonathan Tobin in Commentary, Joseph Farah in World Net Daily, Rev. Ted Pike at http://www.truthtellers.org, Joel Sprayregen in American Thinker, and Rabbi Nachum Shifren in News with Views. These commentaries—now viral online—have probably embarrassed ADL more than anything since the 1988 Spotlight expose of ADL’s illegal surveillance of over 10,000 unsuspecting Americans. (See my video, Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians at http://www.truthtellers.org for complete documentation.)
But ADL is unrepentant. It has an agenda and schedule to keep—persecuting Christians and conservatives under its hate crime laws worldwide.
In a recent fund-raising appeal, ADL national director Abe Foxman complained of a worldwide “explosion of anti-Semitism that is shocking in its intensity and unprecedented in its reach into the mainstream.” ADL wants to bull its way forward, persuading all nations of the world to criminalize any criticism of matters Jewish. The cleverest legal means is their brainchild: hate crimes laws.
To eventually imprison enormous numbers of those who oppose ADL’s new world order, ADL must prepare the public to view Christian conservatives as anti-Semitic and violence-prone. This has begun with ADL’s Office of Global Anti-Semitism in the US State Department. In its latest report to Congress, the Office says “classic anti-Semites” include at least 100 million Christians who affirm the New Testament account that the Jews masterminded the crucifixion of Christ. (See U.S. State Department Says New Testament is ‘Anti-Semitic’?) This is an extremely threatening charge by the U.S. government against Bible-believing Americans and Christians everywhere. In Canada, it is a hate crime to publicly state that the Jews were responsible for Christ’s death. It is punishable by a minimum fine of $5,000 and prison if the offense is repeated.
For the past five years, ADL has united 56 nations of Europe into an “anti-hate” confederation (the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, OSCE) dedicated to ending “homophobia,” (which is actually jew-phobia because almost 90% of homosexuals and their spokepersons are jewish), xenophobia, anti-Semitism, and ultimately free speech online. Yet in a recent report, ADL laments that its European hate law agenda is not progressing as rapidly as planned. At last month’s OSCE conference in Warsaw, ADL berated member states for failing to vigorously enact and enforce more hate laws. It also criticized them for neglecting to gather statistics ADL can dramatize as proving that an “epidemic of hate” exists in Europe, necessitating even more hate laws. ADL calls this year’s OSCE report a “revealing portrait of the failure of too many governments to recognize the unique problem of hate crime.” “The League’s analysis of the data found that a total of 23 governments failed to gather hate crime data or make it publicly available. ADL also highlighted nine countries that reported fewer than 10—and in some cases zero—hate crimes. Only eight of the 56 governments submitted information…on incidents of anti-Semitism.” (See Global Hate Crimes KGB Being Created)
It may well be that some political leaders in recalcitrant countries not under the strictest ADL control are gradually awakening to the dangers of hate laws through hearing the horror stories of hate law persecution in other nations. They also may be receiving a comprehensive education on the twisted reasoning, abuses, and ultimate conspiracy of ADL hate laws from the premier international site opposing hate laws, http://www.truthtellers.org.
ADL’s participation in every aspect of a hate crimes bureaucracy is vital to creating ADL’s ideal: a totally repressive gestapo, mercilessly indicting dissident speech in a manner that is fiercely punitive. This is what ADL’s northern branches, B’nai B’rith Canada and the Canadian Jewish Congress, have brought to Canada since 1971, when ADL’s hate law was passed — after a decade of ADL lobbying. Running Canada’s hate bureaucracy has been entirely their project — one which they direct at every stage and of which they are immensely and very publicly proud.
How to Kill America’s Hate Law
What is the most effective way to keep America’s new ADL hate law from being enforced? It’s simple. The more credibility ADL loses—as happened in the last two weeks—the harder it will be for the League to persuade the government to pursue hate crime indictments. If ADL’s credibility is destroyed, hate laws will become unenforceable. In America, virtually no one but ADL cares about sending Christians and conservatives to prison as “anti-Semites” and “homophobic” hate criminals. Without ADL management of hate crime bureaucracies and orchestration of prosecution, even the militant homosexual lobby will have to be content to coexist with the Christian community rather than prosecute it. (Despite ADL propaganda, the heterosexual majority has not tended toward hateful violence against homosexuals.)
The most practical, attainable way to pull the teeth of the new federal hate law is not through legal action, supplicating liberal judges to declare it unconstitutional. They may actually be delighted to receive such appeals and use them to uphold the Constitutionality of the hate law and even broaden it to cover verbal violence against sodomites.
The most direct way to neutralize the hate bill is to destroy, by every truthful means, the reputation of the Anti-Defamation League. Tens of thousands of patriots should tell as many as possible about ADL’s 96-year record of subverting America’s values and freedoms.
An excellent way to start is for groups, especially churches, college clubs and political organizations, to view my 82-minute video Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians at http://www.truthtellers.org. This fast-moving, easily understood documentary presents the history of ADL, particularly how it took away free speech in Canada. It also reveals how, through influencing US legislative bodies as well as policies of the US justice system, it intends to end freedom in America.
Despite its staggering international power and immediate threat to very high profile potential critics, such as Glenn Beck, Joseph Farah, Michael Savage (who is actually a jew from Russia), etc., never in ADL’s history has the average citizen been more secure from ADL’s smear, “Anti-Semite!” This is a unique time because ADL faces a myriad of what it considers anti-Semitic attacks, especially on the internet and in the United Nations. It simply cannot diversify to individually assault thousands of grassroots Americans, who can speak out.
Do you still think you can’t make a difference in dismantling ADL’s power? Consider this anecdote from nature. Once in our garden, I heard a tremendous commotion of scornful cries from little birds. A hawk had just pounced on one of them. Instantly, chickadees, wrens, robins and jays mobbed him, mercilessly berating the raptor at close range. The hawk panicked and flew away, leaving his victim unharmed. Each bird alone was a potential meal. Yet acting together, overwhelming the hawk with protest, the small birds prevailed.
Do you have the courage of a chickadee?
Thousands of Americans, grieved by the specter of a national hate crimes bureaucracy being set up in America, can unite to tarnish ADL. Then, what may be happening in many OSCE countries will happen in America. Without a credible ADL goading the Attorney General, FBI and police against Christian “hate criminals,” the federal hate law will become a despised relic of legislative history—rusting and decrepit like monuments of the former Soviet Union.
The people will never allow it to be used against them.