Russian Military Analysts are reporting to Prime Minister Putin that US President Barack Obama has issued orders to his Northern Command’s (USNORTHCOM) top leader, US Air Force General Gene Renuart, to “begin immediately” increasing his military forces to 1 million troops by January 30, 2010, in what these reports warn is an expected outbreak of civil war within the United States before the end of winter.
According to these reports, Obama has had over these past weeks “numerous” meetings with his war council about how best to manage the expected implosion of his Nations banking system while at the same time attempting to keep the United States military hegemony over the World in what Russian Military Analysts state is a “last ditch gambit” whose success is “far from certain”.
And to Obama’s “last ditch gambit”, these reports continue, he is to announce in a nationwide address to his people this coming week that he is going to expand the level of US Military Forces in Afghanistan by tens of thousands of troops, while at the same time using the deployment of these soldiers as a “cover” for returning to the United States over 200,000 additional American soldiers from the over 800 bases in over 39 countries they have stationed around the Globe bringing the level of these forces in America to over 1 million, a number the US Military believes will be able to contain the “explosion of violence” expected to roil these peoples when they learn their economy has been bankrupted.
These reports further state that at the same time Obama will be attempting to keep his Nation from violent disintegration, the tens of thousands of additional troops he will send to Afghanistan are to be ordered to Kandahar where the Americans and their NATO allies will begin their final attempt to secure their TAPI (Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India) pipeline, which without the Western Nations, due to their grave lack of alternative energy resources, and being cut off from these vast Central Asian supplies (which both Russia and China are seeking to insure), are warned will totally collapse.
Making the American’s (and by extension the West’s) situation even worse are new reports coming from the International Energy Agency stating that “under pressure” from the US government they have been “deliberately underplaying” a looming Global oil shortage for fear of triggering panic buying and raising the Americans fear over the end of oil supremacy because it would threaten their power over access to our World’s last remaining oil resources.
To the scariest “end game” maneuvers being made by Obama, in his attempt to protect Americas Global hegemony, is his record shattering move in plunging the United States $3.5 Trillion further into debt, and which raises the total amount owed by the United States, to its citizens and the World, to the unprecedented height of over $106 Trillion.
So alarming has Obama’s actions become (especially since they are being imitated by all of the Western powers) that the managing-director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), Dominique Strauss-Kahn, warned this past week that the “stimulus actions” of the West (which in essence is nothing more than the printing of money with nothing to back it up) has now become a “threat to democracy” as millions of people are expected to erupt in violence against their governments over the theft of their money and their futures.
Most unfortunately for the American people though is that this IMF warning fell on “deaf ears” in the United States with the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President, James Bullard, saying this week that the US would continue its “stimulus actions” because they “would give more flexibility to US policymakers”, a most absurd statement especially when viewed in the light of the unprecedented debt payments currently looming over the American economy they have no ability whatsoever to pay.
To the ability of the West’s banking giants to save their Nation’s economies, even worse news came this week with the US ratings giant Standards & Poors issuing a warning that “every single bank in Japan, the US, Germany, Spain, and Italy included in S&P’s list of 45 Global lenders remain unsafe”, a warning which then lead to one of Europe’s largest banks, Société Générale, warning its clients to prepare for a “total Global Economic Collapse”.
To the fears of Obama over the United States erupting into civil war once the full extent of the rape and pillaging of these peoples by their banks and government becomes known to them, grim evidence now shows the likelihood of this occurring much sooner than later, especially in new poll figures showing that Obama’s approval rating among white Americans has now fallen to 39%. A number made more significant when one realizes that the white population of the United States comprises 74% of their estimated 398 million citizens, or put more ominously in these reports as “over 220 million American people armed to the teeth and ready to explode”.
And so fearful has the white population of the United States become that upon the election of Obama to the Presidency he was named as the “Gun Salesman of the Year” by the Outdoor Wire, the US’s largest daily electronic news service for the outdoor industry, who report “panic buying” of weapons and ammunition by those fearful of the destruction of their country at the hands of man they believe is not even an American citizen and had been foisted upon them by their elite classes seeking to enslave them.
Though the coming civil war in the United States is being virtually ignored by their propaganda media, the same cannot be said of Russia, where leading Russian political analyst, Professor Igor Panarin has long warned that the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the US is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.
Professor Igor Panarin further stated in his warning that “the US Dollar is not secured by anything. The country’s foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11 trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse.”
What remains to be seen, and these reports do not speculate upon, is if the citizen-soldiers of the United States will fire upon and kill their fellow countrymen during the coming conflict, but if history is to be our guide clearly shows this will be the case as the once great American Nation continues its headlong plunge into the abyss of history. May God have mercy upon all of them.
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Everyone believes in their own God. You are leading some people astray, especially since there is no historical evidence that there ever was a Jesus Christ. Have you ever taken any courses on theology? Apparently not.
A course on theology won’t prove that Yahushua ever lived. Have you ever studied the Scriptures yourself, do you know Hebrew? From your answer, apparently not. Why don’t you go do your own homework before posting something this ignorant. Then come back and we’ll talk.
I regard the Bible as a good book. Beyond that, I have no reason to study the scriptures. When the civil war takes place, the government will take control of the food and water. If you don;’t have your own food packaged for long term storage, you will starve.
\Not me, Have far too many deer and bunnies here.
I won’t even respond to Bob’s silly comment except I hae seen others make the comment that the Holocost never existed either. All the evidence in the universe doesn’t convince those jokers either.
Dont waste your time, Bob. I won’t waste any more of mine
I decide when I waste my time. Not someone like you. I believe that the holocaust took place, however there is no evidence that anyone was put in those ovens. The only thing that we can do is assume.
From my research, the number killed in the concentration camps was closer to 1.7 million, most of which died from typhus from poor living conditions. It wasn’t only Jews in there, but any political dissidents, retarded, homosexual, or gypsy who was deemed to be unfavorable to the cause of national socialism. I’m not saying that the holocaust didn’t happen, I’m just saying that they’re skewing the numbers upward a bit. What about the German soldiers that were starved in Eisenhower’s Death Camps? Over a million soldiers who surrendered were starved and famished by the good ol’ U.S. Nothing like actually enforcing the Geneva Convention. Victors write the hostory. As for the YHWH argument, I don’t understand how Bob Brown can say that the Bible is a good book without studying it. It’s like me saying that Paris smells beautiful in the summer without ever going there. C’mon, Bob. You’re bright enough to know more truth than most about the “holocaust”, you should read and learn about the designer of you and this universe.
Bob Brown- Have you been to the ovens at the death camps?
Show me your evidence.
Or it didn’t happen.
I will not argue the fact that Jesus does exist, I know he does, he lives within my heart.I have heard others say they would rather go with the believe that he does exist with the hope of eternal salvation than not believe and go to hell, what do you have to lose to open your heart and mind to this fact. The bible says the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. God gave everyone a free will so we have to decide for ourselves if we will follow him, he is a just God and does not send anyone to hell, by your own choice you send yourself. I hope and pray that you will fine him before it is too late. When you study theology you are taking another persons word why not take a leap of faith and believe upon a sure thing, one that wants nothing but the best for you and your loved ones.God help you!
Christopher, Go to the sites in Germany & see for yourself. I was there. Were you? The holocaust happened. Until you’ve been there to see for yourself, you have no credibility on the issue.
I haven’t taken any courses in Theology but I did read that there was a man named Apollodonis or something like that who lived some 300 plus years prior to the first Council of Nicaea and it’s believed that he was the inspiration that led to the myth of Jesus. I think because he was a Pagan Greek that changed his name and some details of his life to make him into a different person more fitting for the new universal Christian faith.
I haven’t had much time to really read into it to really come to a conclusion myself but if Jesus the myth was based of a real man by a different name, time and ethnicity then maybe that would be why there is no historical evidence to support his existence under a different identity?
Your reply Jessica is really interesting.
His name was Jesua pronounced yeshua. We have a record of his words.
Jessica did you read the works of Flavius Josephus, he was a jew and the jews don’t accept Jesus as the Christ,so he was not for Jesus but he did mention a man named Jesus was crucified just when the bible says he was.
Isn’t it difficult to talk about things when you don’t know what you’re talking about?
BobBrown & Jessica,
Archaeologists discovered thousands of documents, many from non-Christian sources & ancient historians, that prove Jesus Christ existed. Don’t know where you studied your theology, but there’s plenty of discoveries from Roman & non-Christian sources that Jesus existed. I have a Master’s in theology & taught college courses. Any theology that says there’s no evidence that Jesus existed, is a false theology. Archaeologists found plenty of evidence.
Definitely agree that huge social unrest is coming, & the govt will try to take control of everything they can. I’ve got my food stash, too.
I agree with you constance. That is the one thing about the bible. It is verifiable by outside sources. I believe in the bible, just like I believe that if I drink poison, I will die. Just my two cents.
WHAT I THINK IS THIS,
all people have a life, and with God there is no color,we need to turn to GOD and call upon His Holy name for help, in this day and time.to protect us all from more war and blood shed,and from more debt that this country is in already,can’t you read between the line’s, there are those who want war, not peace,and THAT THE TIME OF THE devil is short, FOR JESUS IS ON HIS WAY BACK, ARE YOU READY FOR HIM, or are you going to bitch about all eles, and forget about your life, and other’s too,you stand ready to kill, and not help or see that other’s be saved, or helped, why so blood thirsty?
no the debt didn’t come with OBAMA,it was started long ago,just got higher is all trying to help the U. S. A.,come on wake up, stop finding fault, and pray for the Pres. and for your self and other’s,
befor it is too late.
Susie,
With all do respect instead of saying that God see’s no color why don’t you ask why he create color in the first place? What’s so terrible about embracing what makes us all unique and special in this world? Each race on this earth is different and special in it’s own way and by natural law needs to preserve and defend itself.
I don’t want to kill anyone but no one should just stand there and die either. You are right about Obama inheriting some debt and conflict in America but what what you are wrong about is that he’s also making it much worse, he’s added to the debt, he’s made America look weak and he’s a communist plain and simple.
He and his friends and advisers of similar background studied something called the Cloward–Piven strategy which basically means they believe to radical change the country with the things they want the most they must overwhelm the current system and start from scratch. That seems like what he is doing now with Cash for Clunkers and this Health care overall.
If you need to pray for anyone pray for the people of the United States not this privileged communist pushing a deadly agenda. Since though it looks like you’ve already made up your mind and like to pretend we need to completely let our guard down and wish him the best you’re already doomed and I’m sorry if I don’t like chains whether they are made of metal or velvet.
We will pray that Obama steps down before he does any more harm to our nation. He has kept his promise for change of “The Greatest Nation the World has ever know”………… Now he should leave while we are still a nation and he can point his finger and say it wasn’t his fault ( like all other politicians do).
YOU IGNORANT MOTHERFUCKER…SCUM LIKE YOU WILL BE TREATED JUST LIKE THE FUCKING NIGGERS AND HISPANICS!!!ANYTHING NOT WHITE WILL BE DEALT WITH!!YOU BIBLE THUMPING BASTARDS ARE AS BAD AS NIGGERS…WELL…YOU WILL GET YOURS ASSWIPE…SEE IF YOU “MEET YOUR MAKER” YOU IGNORANT FUCK!!!
ROFLOL What do you really think?
:-x What in the world is wrong with you? Think outside the paranoia inducing propaganda will ya.You are about to blow a gasket here over supposition,rumor and innuendo from a “news agency” that itself sponsors tea bagger meetings!!!
Considering the wide reaching conspiracy against a duly elected sitting President and his party this is treason!
Do you even remember what “news” is supposed to be? I’ll tell you,”news” should report and only report not openly support subversion?
“…that itself sponsors tea bagger meetings!!!”
And god hates fags.
Better keep yourself clean and bright; you are the window through which you must see the world. ~George Bernard Shaw
Dear Jack, your words are an inspiration, I would bet you attended college about 50 years to be able to write words as brilliant as these. People on your level of genius just amaze me. Did you convert
people to your way of thinking or did you just show the whole world just how stupid you are?
your an idiot.
Susie you are on the right track but you are confused. :) Go to you tube and watch all the crap Obama said about the bible. Do you pray for Satan? or do you rebuke him in the name of the Lord? Obama is not trying to restore our economy but drive us into more debt so we collapse and have to come under the rule of the global government, just look at all the global gov people he has appointed and the stupid decisions he has made, you CAN NOT spend your way out of bankruptcy. You are the one that needs to wake up, open your eyes, and do some of your own thinking, not listen to the corrupt media.
I used to live in the Northeast and my image of the South formed by “Gone with the Wind”. Everyone had slaves and drank mint julips in the shade all day long.
Well, I ended up moving to the South and immediately learned the “rest of the story” when I ran into an author that showed me that most Southerners were somehow NOT big plantation owners with lots slaves. Oh, they were there, but most were just working Joe and Jane Americans trying to have a life and raise their kids.
She also showed me some very convincing documentation that a majority of the folks were fighting mad because of the Feds were screwing up local banks and forcing new rules down their throats that didn’t make sense or have any real value.
Does any of this sound familiar?
Beyond that, I was surprised to find that many families still pass down how Sherman’s troops and others burned their personal homes and raped BOTH white and black women. The “Forget Hell!” character bumper plate isn’t comedy. Evem my relatively new subdivision is named after a Confederate General. My education as a Northerner was propagandized more than I could have ever imagined. The maddening cramdowns coming out of DC right now are inspiring people to remember. You should come and see the Civil War re-enactments. They are huge, highly attended affairs.
Still, I am ready to embrace those in the North that believe in a strict interpretation of the Constitution with three EQUAL branches…and prefer America to remain that way.
But if the majority in the North reject that for Cloward-Piven orchestrated crises to get us all to follow Chairman Mao’s Little Red Book …well that will get this old guy up in arms and ready to go through a physical war cycle. I will answer the call to war if the Socialists bring it to that point. I will die to give my kids the same chance I had to grow up in a free, open and honest society with limited government.
Please think about what you want to see in the future and don’t doubt our resolve to live free.
MiddleAgeMan
The Rapture of The Church will trigger civil war.
Rapture soon, a few months at most.
Possibly by end of this year.
SOURCE PLEASE!
Gio-
This story has been debunked, lol…It came from Sacha Fall, a man who makes up lies all the time on the internet…
Well upon reading this article it makes me think that the American ppl are gonna be in a shit load of problems,(giving that the statments are true) and also are everyone else in neibouring countries and those countries overseas. We all need to band together and hope that things turn out for the best. And being from Canada and not really knowing much about politics in the states, but I can tell you that Obama is diffenitly not the man for the job. You all were attracked to him being a fresh voice and being of a different ethnic backround, never really took into account that he’s not qualified for the running of an entire nation. So now you have to help each other out and keep the future of the world in you mind.
People, get a life. This is more Sorcha Faal bullshit.
We don’t have a million troops in uniform. Obama would have to pull in the reserve and National Guard, and none of them are going to go head to head with the people they swore to protect, the US Citizens.
mof
You are correct MOF…It does come from Sorcha Faal, this has been debunked weeks ago…LOL…
Americans,
let us consider this article’s source: EU. EU would probably like to see our nation tied up in violence. EU is being overtaken by extreme muslims who would propagate any violence, especially against Americans. Haven’t we learned anything from 9/11. We should stand together. If that is against our own government, I think we could do this in a civilized manner. Janie, get your gun, would certainly destroy our moral more than an outsiders attack.
Are you an idiot or an idiot? At the end of the article there is a word that says “Source”. Click on it!
Actually I check my facts. Actually I doubled and triple checked them. The article from Freedomfighterradio is an excerpt from the original by Sorcha Faal.
Yeah, not to deny that bad things are going on in the world and that everything is just hunk dory but it’s odd that the EU story sources a page, American Resistance Radio, that doesn’t credit the author. Also, according to some other sites, it’s thought that Sorcha Faal (under whose name other dubious articles have appeared) is a pseudonym for someone named David Booth.
All I’m saying is some of these articles need to to a better job at listing sources.
Find out exactly what the coming civil war will look like from a Harvard educated counterterrorism analyst:
http://www.TrembleTheDevil.com
Got further emails:
From a Special Forces Soldier Trained in intelligence analysis and the conduct of revolution.
Unfortunately the analysis could be not far from the truth. The comments from Mr. Bush are also valid. There are a number of scenarios which could play out “depending on the situation”. If there is general economic collapse in the United States we could see a “domino effect” on other countries. Especially because America feeds so many in other countries. If this were to happen there would be no UN troops to deploy if there were general worldwide economic collapse. The deployment of most US troops could be an indicator. Remember most police and paramilitary units roll with the government. Also the Federal Bureaucrats have the ability and right to recall all retired military personnel to age 65….but of course this could change too. There are several million retirees out there, and some of them may heed a recall.
If there is a general collapse of society these units (FBI, BATF, DEA etc) could become ineffective very rapidly, as those persons will rapidly look to secure their families. In China during the Tienanmen Square crisis the first soldiers deployed rapidly joined the students and the resistance. The Government then deployed a second wave with orders to fire on everyone and if the second force defaulted that their families would be killed.
There are a large number of scenarios that could play out……during my travels last year to four widely separated countries there is a general apprehension and fear that something bad is afoot…..people are apprehensive for a reason…..our own animal instincts are often triggered by things we do not comprehend.
There are so many possibilities on what could happen that I myself am not discounting any scenario until the time has passed. I am considering every possibility in preparation……”for something wicked this way comes”. There are too many indicators to ignore……the possibilities abound but we have to look at what is probable. Hell for all we know the federal bureaucrats are using some of the “resistance” websites to collect intel and data on all of us. Yes, if you visit a website just once it can be traced right back to you. And for those of you who thought that Firefox was safe, look at the lower left corner of your browser when it connects to the internet. Firefox connects through google which shares its information with the government. Coincidentally the owner of Google is a member of the Trilateral Commission.
So, do not totally discount any possibility, just consider the probabilities in relationship to the social, political, and economic factors.
So in defense of both the possibilities are there…..but what are the probabilities of it actually happening.
The prudent person will not sit and what if the possibilities he will prepare for the highly possible in today’s environs. The need to feed his family, protect his assets, and to treat his wounds. Popular support for a second American revolution is growing on a daily basis. More and more people are beginning to “feel” something afoot. More people are beginning to realize the nepotistic and corrupt nature of the American Bureaucrat…..and I include every president since Woodrow Wilson with the possible exception of JFK.
The following things are fact:
The US is on the verge of financial collapse. The Federal Government is considering propping up the US dollar with American land values as was attempted in pre WWII Germany. Gold is screaming upward which is devaluing our dollar.
Food production is at an all time low especially long term storage items such as grains.
The US Government is becoming more oppressive and socialist/communist in its approach.
The Department of Homeland Security has conducted a propaganda campaign to demonize our war vets, Christians, and anyone who may have “different” ideas in an attempt to create the fear factor.
The News Media is under strict control and full of propaganda, I do not even trust fox news or the internet completely.
Most of our troops are deployed overseas.
The Feds are dumping huge sums of money on local law enforcement agencies…..I live in a town of maybe 14000 and the cops have automatic weapons….hmmmm.
The feds are trying to create a huge fear factor with oil prices when we sit on some of the worlds richest oil reserves in Colorado, Montana, SD, and ND.
US Northern Command which was “intended” to simply be a liaison between civil and military authorities now has a division assigned which can be rapidly chopped to operational control of northern command…….dunno what the current outfit is in the “hole” but I am sure that there is a designated unit.
UN Troops are already deployed in the US. There is a German “training” aviation unit in Texas and there are Canadians assigned to Northern Command and the CMOC (Cheyenne Mountain Operations Center) aka NORAD.
So let us not seek the wherefores and how will they do it, let us not fight over what scenario will happen or what is actual disinformation, let us prepare to defend the constitution and our way of life, feed our families and heal and create a sense of responsibility in our communities when that day comes. We are all citizen soldiers and responsible to our country.
People should be sharing information on a lot of things that revolve around security and well being.
We can all agree that bad times are coming, let us prepare.
Jxx Mxxxxxxxxxxxx
US Army Retired
Special Forces Operations and Intelligence analyst
I call BS on this article. It was originally written by The author Sorcha Faal. This is what I found on this person:
Sorcha Faal is known as the ‘internet hoax queen’ …and some even say she is a he named David Booth, an American IT guy who runs ‘what does it mean’ for cheap thrills.
With that being said if Obama was to fight the well armed American Public(I have 2 assault rifles, 1 .45 handgun nd about 3000 rounds of ammo…and counting)he would have to get soldiersfrom other countries to fight here because the American Military is on our side, at least most of it anyway. My Militia command is made up from acive duty US Amry and US Marines. We will not fail in taking back our country.
Oh and to the guy who says it’s the Jews fault stop being racist. And those that say my avitar is racist Islam is not a race, it is a death cult bent on ruling the world.
Click my name to go down the rabbit hole to the remedy of getting out of the dual system.
This was in an email I received:
1. The entire Uniformed Military Services under the command and authority of the Secretary of Defense is currently at 1.4 Million men and women.
2. That force is fully deployed outside the shores of this country.
3. Northern Command is fully manned by about 50,000 troops and most of them are deployed.
4. The reason that they are deployed is so that if martial law is declared, they cannot be brought to force on the streets of America.
5. Foreign troops will be utilized during any martial law as they have not sworn any oath to our constitution.
6. Foreign troops will have NO reluctance to fire on US Civilians contrary to any possibility using US Forces.
7. There ARE close to 750,000 armed Mercenaries in the US and abroad that can be used for US Martial Law under the command authority of the United Nations. These are the people we should fear.
8. My daughter is in Iraq and a 1st Lieutenant in the 15th Military Intelligence Battalion of the 633 Military Intelligence Regiment of the Third Infantry Division. The Third ID is part of NORTH COM….NOTHING is happening in the US Army units. She would Know and therefore I WOULD KNOW
9. I do expect something relatively soon but THIS IS NOT HOW IT WILL HAPPEN
10. They will have to build some kind of world consensus and the stage is not set for that yet.
American Traitors — :-) Glad you asked the question. Why censor? Answer– We do not censor. Our site is open to anyone until someone tries to hack it or leaves bad things.
Why not take the time to delete the comments? Answer — Firstly, these are not “comments”, they are sometimes 100 links to online drug companies. They are pics of gay porn. They are links to all kinds of porn websites.
The people who do this are not political at all. They do it for enjoyment, for financial gain, and for pure entertainment. There have been times in the past where up to 100 people have “attack” a website to bring it down or to post so many bad things it took hours to remove them.
Much like a bank puts locks on things and has many security systems, so does a website need these protections. Any webmaster of a content driven website which allows the public to post knows they must ban some people. It is just the nature of the beast.
I guess what I am saying is, websites are under attack all the time. One way to minimize potential damage is to not allow access to those who have caused damage in the past. Castles have moats, we have software. :-)
The coffee mention was because basically you are comparing apples to oranges… no harm, no foul. :-)
Grand Poobah…why censor like the American government does in it’s media? Why not just take the time to delete the comments? If you were out for our greater good, you would not be advising that I ease up on the cofee. Are you trying to let them conquer and divide? Aren’t we all here for the same cause?
American Traitors — It was me who was talking about an IP address. I help run the website: http://grandpoobah.us We get a lot of traffic from Eastern European countries who come by the website to deposit Spam postings for drugs and sex websites, while also trying to hack into the code. We have blocked entire countries by IP Address, so I only mentioned that if they were BLOCKED, then the only way they will ever see the website is if I allow the specific IP Address.
By the way, we have not nor do not intend to “infiltrate”. If you went to our website you would see that it is full of valuable Conservative information. If we ever infiltrate any website, it would be either the Huffington puffington Post or Salon.com as those are about the heaviest leftist websites around.
…you might want to ease up on the multiple cups of coffee..
The Fed reserve must be destroyed. It is the root of all these evils. The dollar is completely worthless. We are going to face food shortages. We must be prepared to defend our goods. Armed to the teeth to stave off looters and thieves. BO just wants to control the coming food riots. He is being used by the fed. The banking elite must be destroyed. Only then will we have a shot at returning America to the greatness she was meant to be. Gold standard people no more fake dollars….pay only taxes with those.
To Liberty Felix…how dumb do you think we are? Send you our IP address? AS IF. Watch out guys, they have infiltrated this forum.
As for what Lee says above, this is true. The United States has TWO Constitutions, and the one that we the people follow, is not the same one the government follows. That 10 mile piece of land in Washington, with all of it’s offices and employees has it’s own Constitution. Research it and learn.
WE ARE NOT PLAYING BY THE SAME RULES AS THEM. Educate yourselves.
Oh, and one more thing, consider all of those “armchair patriots” that are sitting around doing nothing right now. What are you going to do about them when the unrest does come to rise? Are you going to let them break into your home and shoot you and your family for your food and water and whatever else they need? This may just be as big as a threat as any troops (national or foreign that come knocking on our doors). Can you afford to sustain the half of your neighborhood that is refusing that this will happen? Can you afford to sustain those that won’t do anything to help themselves now?
I do not believe that the troops here will be all American. We have many different foreign troops already stationed in the US. Want a wake up call? According to a couple of military friends that I have, there is 40,000 RUSSIAN troops here already and special forces Canadian teams that are ready to move. There are also forces of other nationalities here. I don’t think our own military is going to be the threat, even though some will be here. Of course, bring in foreign troops that already hate what America stands for. Makes perfect sense to me.
United we stand. Never forget where you came from and who loves you. It will be enough to sustain you when the SHTF.
I see this as a ruse and incitement on part of the PTB (powers that be) using scare tactics. There’s a way out of this dual system. Check the included website and go down the rabbit hole to get free of this usurping government that goes by an alternate constitution and not the organic/original.
This sounds serious! I don’t need no CNN or Fox News to tell me this story, I know they are corrupted as fuck and they won’t report the truth and the truth is that this country is really fucked up! Thanks to communist Obongo (Obama) who’s staff is mostly Jewish such as Rahm Emanuel, Mona Sutphen, David Axelrod. And I should also mention to you guys that Obongo was financed by the Jewish banking group Goldman Sachs!
Most of us here, hate Obongo’s Health Care Bill but few know that Ezekiel J. Emanuel is behind it and that he is ALSO JEWISH!
Guys this is no coincidence! Jews are destroying this great country of ours and we need to stand up and put an end to this madness! Just like our forefathers would have done!
meh is code for moron!
This is about FREEDOM!!! Obama wants too take it away and we will not let him!!!
They have already taken over our TOBACCO with the new FSC Smokes and have banned any flavored tobacco products!!! I wonder what they will take next? Once you let the government in to your lives they will do what they want from then on!!!
I feel like a VICTIM!!!
Zander,
DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT, ever feel like a victim. Once you do that you have lost your freewill. The Americans I know that help to build things and hire others to do the same are free men/women. Those that play the victim are the ones that drag down our country. Now don’t get me wrong, I believe in helping anyone that is in dire straits because I’m bound by my Christianity to help those less fortunate. But, I have no use for people that whine, and cry like babies, and are always in the front of the line looking for a handout. And no, I don’t care what your color is, zip, zero ,nada!
Stepping off soapbox now.
Gio-
WOW! I am so glad to know that our president is capable of making a decision and giving an order! Kudos to him. And how did you get in that meeting? Oh, yeah, he spends more time in Europe than in the US, I forgot!
I think our world is in a great deal of trouble. All christians need to be praying harder and pray GOD will intervene. This world is headed for a world war for sure. Pray someone takes Over this world and stop Obama before he finishes destroying the the US.. People better wake up… Before it is too late..
Amen, jcagle!
God said this would happen, and how He’d take care of it. He also said how he’d deal with Russia/ Magog (Ezekiel 38, 39)
Have your prayed for America today???
To My Brothers & Sisters in FREEDOM,
One point is being ignored by some of you, the Main-Stream-Media trys to divide us here in the U.S. Left/right, Christian/non, red/blue, gay/straight, etc. I believe that we Americans are united when the going gets toughest. There will not be divides, there will be WE THE PEOPLE stand united against the Gov’t. Tomas Jefferson put it very well over 200 years ago; “The tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time.” I believe in OUR humanity as a people. That may sound naive, but I still believe in the FREEDOM of speech, idea, and opinion. I may not like what you say but I will defend, to the death, your right to say it.
I think there are a lot of elements of truth in this article. While I cannot believe everything is 100% accurate, their premise is quite real. I believe the “Civil War” is a war between Liberal and Conservative ideals. The latest ClimateGate situation only adds more proof of a looming war. When the MSM seems to totally ignore the largest hoax perpetuate on mankind, one can only wonder what the future truly holds.
I help run a conservative website whose mission is to help inform everyone with what is currently going on. I am asking all of you here to visit and maybe join http://grandpoobah.us We need your help in gathering and publishing all possible information to what is going on in the US and the world in relation to this ever growing Liberal vs. Conservative war. Yes, it is truly a war and Americans on both sides are angry.
Again, please visit and maybe join us at: http://grandpoobah.us
—Since we use top rated open source software on the website, we have a fair amount of “spammers” who come by and leave forum postings about drugs and sex sites. Whenever this happens, we ban that part of the world from being able to even see the website. Mostly we have banned certain areas of various European countries. If you try to go there and are unable to see us, please email me at: [email protected] and also include your IP address.
Keep up the good work with continuing articles such as this…
I always enjoy Russia Times stuff. However, I must point out that Civil War here would more likely be precipitated by BO’s signing the Copenhagen Treaty or giving some other such type of surrender of our Constitution. British Lord Moncton has identified a constitutional scholar who has said that the Treaty will trump the American Constitution. If anything like that develops, Civil War might not be the best name for what could follow. Financial issues won’t have us challenging one another, but rather traitors on Wall Street and in the District of Columbia.
On the other hand, why is “The European Union Times” being produced in the US, and for barely over 1 month now. This may be the new “Onion”.
When and if U.S, breaks out into civil war I might just end up helping the citizen militia’s or starting an uprising in Canada.
I can tell you for a fact (my son is a Marine) there is no solder that would ever and I mean ever attach any American in a war scenario…..NEVER!! Obama is out of touch if he thinks for one minute that any solder would shoot at an American in there home towns…not going to happen folks……….no way.
I hope your right but I have just one thing to say “katrina”
The United States is a huge country and racial and ethnically very diverse. Yet, Americans share a stronger bond since the 9-11 attacks and we are proud of our history. We are far from perfect, but our union is more perfect than the Russians and others may recognize.
Some Russian is always saying nonsense like this, probably to play to an audience that likes to listen to it.
As for having the U.S. military quell civil unrest, that has been wargamed many times and in every scenario armed civilians win, and most of the military goes over to them. Most of the active military has already been recruited by the militia, which, behind the scenes, is far better organized than most people in government realize.
As for the U.S. falling apart, perhaps, but not geographically, unless it might be rural and suburbs vs. urban centers. The contending sides would be intermingled, not separated into regions. Taxpayers vs. government dependents.
One fact remains: The U.S. is self-sufficient in food and coal, even if a lot of city dwellers have to go to work on farms to replace missing inputs of oil. Texas is self-sufficient in everything it needs, so it could go independent if it had to. If it did, most of the rest of the states would probably want to join it. It is also one of the few states that is not in financial trouble.
However, 200 million armed American civilians is not an exaggeration. They probably have more than 400 million working firearms between them, and enough ammunition to hold them for decades. Our militia is not as organized as that of Switzerland, but we have so many veterans that the pool of skilled persons needed to pull it together in an emergency is ready.
There may be disorder in the urban centers, but not in the rest of the country. Americans have the organizational skills to meet almost any emergency, and it will take a lot more than economic collapse to split most of us apart.
However, corrupt officials may want to leave the country. It could get really rough for them. Maybe some other country will take them, along with their worthless dollars.
I call BS on this article. However, IF, and I mean IF, a civil war is being prepared for by BHO, it will not turn out like he thinks, nor will it end the way many others think. Many US forces and their high ranking officers will march on Washington in an effort to establish true Constitutional rule.
As an ex-military officer, pilot, and past NG commander, I can assure you many, not the few, will soon break from an unconstitutional order and leader. Even today, many are very suspicious of BHO motives. Even without formal military support, even if a small percentage of Americans rise up in arms, there will be a blood bath that will not end in a short vicious fight. yes, there will be some major clashes, but think Irag times 10. Government and other BHO enforcers will be daily targets of attrition.
But again, I call BS on the article. However, I am one of those “armed to the teeth” Americans, and I have decades of military training in numerous areas of study. I can just imagine thousands or hundreds of thousands of similar trained and skilled warriors leading constant attempts at installing, read removing, a true Constitutional government in the fashion our founders intended. These Marxist-Socialist types would have to live in bunkers the rest of their lives. Short they may be……
Like you and I have both basically said, Americans have the power on our side. If shit hits the fan and the people rise up, the traitors will be running scared trying to find a place to hide. Problem for them is, Americans will hunt them to the ends of the Earth so this won’t happen again…… for awhile and then we’ll do it again!!!!
You nailed it, Gibbs.
Our military takes an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
It will be very easy for them to figure out who the REAL enemy is. BHO will need assistance from the UN to get what he wants!
The Russian is right about his assessment, but he’s totally underestimating the American spirit.
(pssst…think Stalingrad, 1942. Multiply by 1,000. That should give you some idea)
You want real change??? All incumbents GONE in 2010. That is why we are in trouble. They live and thrive on us. They have never had a real job and would not know how. Get rid of all of them, and you will see thecountry come back. Because they will be afraid of us after that.
One thing Obama doesn’t realize is that there are way more Americans than he realizes such as myself that would give their lives to preserve the future for our kids. Won’t take me one second to make that decision. The Mulsim Manchurian Candidate will not prevail in the systematic destruction of our country.
Many of us are willing to uphold the Constitution.
Upon graduating the United States Marine Corps basic training (the whole military may do this but I only know the USMC does it for sure) a new soldier is given a survey. One of the questions on that survey asks if that soldier would fire upon American citizens in a non-retaliatory manner in order to put down a protest or rebellion. This survey has been in existence long before the Obama administration took office, but I do believe that it may have some bearing on which soldiers would get deployed to but down any domestic uprisings.
Didn’t see a survey like that in the Army, but then, that was about 15 years ago.
I wonder what would happen to someone who instead of checking ‘yes’ or ‘no’, penciled in, ‘I would switch sides’? :)
Is there a place to check…HELL NO!
From Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’
i hope someone can discredit this.. even so, adding OUR OWN troops to our soil will backfire, if this administration really wanted to control the population they would not take the risk of using our own, but use UN troops, our own soldiers are too risky for going AWOL and/or fighting on the side of the people they are supposed to be controlling/etc.
Leave it to the Europeans to try and incite another civil war. Little do you know we’re watching every move your spies are making here. Even the ones insinuated into our government. Oh, and “Project Implantation” is dead
This is just the beginning of the end…
I believe our Russian counterparts are on to something here and most Americans are completely oblivious to the coming storm…
Thanks to PMS-NBC,ABC(All Barack Channel) and CBS (See.. BS) there are few that will ever know this is happening until troops are in the streets.
The evidence is mounting that BO is purging the upper echelons of the US military in anticipation of this inevitable event. Fortunately real Americans don’t run from bullets they run towards them and hold their ground.
I would venture to guess that at least 60% of active military and police are Oath Keepers http://www.oathkeepers.org if you want to learn more.
GO WOLVERINES!
Oops! I almost forgot to mention CNN (Communist Neanderthal News)…
As I have said, Americans underestimate how many Americans HAVE woken up! 200 million, armed to the teeth with plenty of ammo!
“As reported by the Washington Post, a record number of 12 BILLION rounds of all types of ammunition have been sold so far this year.
That’s up from 7 to 10 billion rounds sold in a normal year, thus allocating 38 rounds for each man, woman and child in the US.”
Full article here: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=160397
I’m awake!
228 million to be exact and tens of thousands per day still coming in, lol…
Missy8, you are so right, most americans have no idea of what is taking place right under their noses. After all America has been through to get where she is today, I don’t understand why the people are so blind to what is so obvious.
Lots of huffing and puffing all around. Stand down guys and gals. We are only threatening each other. Restore the constitutional system of our founding fathers. They worked themselves out of a similar situation with a fiat currency.
Look to the skies and our food supplies for the threat to humanity. Unless we can get some logical answers to the chemtrails (not contrails) those jets are leaving, I see that as a definite threat. Also the codex allimentarious
All of the caos in the America from WWII to the present was pre-arranged. It’s a Master Plan to Re-Integrate us with England and to break up the country, just like the guy said, into smaller sections. Divided we’re nothing. Together we can accomplish anything. Our Leaders are no longer Americans; They’re Nazi Infiltrators. Period ! Get Ready. D.L.W.
Biden in 2011
ahhh . . . 2011? Try 2012 and Biden will be sitting in a corner rocking back and forth with his thumb in an orifice.
Biden 2010!!! That is a scarry thought!
If Obama is really building up the military in anticipation of a civil war, he should realize that he is actually increasing the strength of the opposing team.
Yes, Yes so very true. And the men and woman who stand behind the military and/or the oath keepers will stand with them.
That is true afs2; the soldiers took an oath to uphold the constitution, not an office or corrupt tyrannical commie.
I’m thinking that if this order were given, the soldiers would turn around and say …”say what?” and thumb their noses at Obama.
It is true that our oath IS NOT to the president, but to the nation, the constitution AND the flag. No where does it even mention the president. But it does mention “…all enemies, foreign and domestic.” And just because we might not wear the uniform any longer, does not mean we do not hold ourselves to the oath we gave.
The people who love America and American ideals, will fight for America… the feminized, passive-aggressive America haters will cower as usual.
Civil war? Might not last so long. Let’s toss out some statistics, form your own conclusion…
“African Americans constituted nine percent of the infantry, compared to 11.8 percent of the age eligible civilian population. In 1995, 79 percent of the new troopers were white, compared with 74.3 percent of civilians.”
“Like their peers in 1999 and 2003, recruits in 2004 and 2005 came primarily from middle-class areas. Poor areas are proportionally underrepresented in the wartime years (2003–2005).”
“Additionally, in the most recent edition of Population Representation in the Military Services, the Department of Defense reported that the mean reading level of 2004 recruits is a full grade level higher than that of the comparable youth population.”
“Additionally, the data for 2004 and 2005 confirm the strong military tradition in the South. In each year from 2003 through 2005, approximately 38 percent of the U.S. population resided in Southern states. In 2003, 43.82 percent of military recruits listed South ern hometowns.”
“Bush led Democratic Sen. John Kerry 73 percent to 18 percent in the voluntary survey of 4,165 active-duty, National Guard and reserve subscribers to Army Times, Navy Times, Marine Corps Times and Air Force Times.”
“Compared to the US public at large, the military considers itself clearly more conservative and Republican, according to the survey, which might be the first to measure the political and related beliefs of a broad cross-section of active-duty enlisted personnel and officers in the major services.”
“Some of those surveys raised new alarms about a growing civilian-military gap in which military officers were found to be significantly more conservative than their civilian counterparts, and self-described “liberals,” who had historically been well-represented in the army in particular, had all but disappeared from all of the services.”
“While recent polls show that roughly one-third of the public considers itself Republican, 57 percent of the active-duty military identified themselves with that party – with two-thirds of officers, compared to 49 percent of enlisted personnel, checking the Republican box.”
“Compared to 32 percent of the civilian public who described themselves as Democrats, only nine percent of military officers and 16 percent of enlisted personnel did so. Twenty-nine percent of the military respondents either said they were independent or declined to answer the question.”
“On other factors, the survey found that 53 percent of active-duty personnel described themselves as either “very conservative” or “conservative,” compared to 40 percent of the general population. By contrast, seven percent said they were “liberal or very liberal,” compared to 20 percent of the general population.”
“The survey found that active-duty personnel were somewhat more religiously observant than the general population. About one-half said they attend religious services at least once a month, compared to 37 percent of civilians.”
“Recent polls have shown that the frequency of religious observance and identification with Republicans was highly correlated.”
America also has a lot of very skilled former military types who served in Vietnam and who were spat upon by America hating, liberal, elitist hippies.
But who knows.
Inspiring and re-assuring. Silent American is all-to-often underestimated.
I was one of those elitist hippies that protested the war in Vietnam. I have always loved my country and have always been a patriot. Don’t forget that the liberals made the US #1 and the US was known at the time to be the greatest country on earth. What have you done for your country? I am a member of the greatest generation. Presently I am an Independent. My uncle was a liberal and the Germans torpedoed his ship on the coast of North Africa. I had a cousin that was a Seabee in the Navy but he was lucky to comeback alive. Your opinion of liberals SUCKS. Your message is very dramatic but makes no sense.
What are you smoking? “Liberals made the US#1,etc”. Get real! Liberals are the reason we are in a totalitarian state! Liberals are the reason we are going bust! Conservatives made this country great. Free enterprise and capitalism makes this country great. A Christian, moral society is what made this country great. Not the liberal, no prayers in school, no 10 commandments in a court house, no “Merry Christmas”, no re-definining “Marriage”. That’s what liberals stand for – immorality, greed and power!
Let me preface this by saying that I am an American woman, and single mother of three children. I work full time, go to school full time, and still cannot keep up. I have been researching our nation through foreign media since I realized that we are in the midst of the biggest media blackout this nation has ever seen. We are living in a communist country, there is NO doubt about that. I am pissed off, worry for my children and am WELL aware of what is going on here, albeit all the lies and propaganda that is being shoved down our god damn throats.
There is going to be a revolution in this country, and yes, there are millions of us armed to the teeth. Behind every blade of grass will come another of us when the shit hits the fan. I will go into the ground with cold dead hands before any of my family gets placed into internment camps, get forced to take a deadly vaccine, or starve to death.
To the powers that be, let me remind you of your future. It is the same as the evil that has been threatening good since before man took his first breath. You will NEVER prevail when all is said and done. I may not live to see it, but I promise you all, you will be cast to the deep recesses of where you belong, like a piece of trash, like a toy, like the snakes that you are.
Fuck with us, the mother bears who will do ANYTHING to protect their families. Go ahead, fuck with angry fathers who are out for your blood. Fuck with all the brothers and sisters who would do anything to save their own. We have NO fear, regardless of the psychological games you are trying to force upon us. NOT WORKING!!! I’ll pray for you all, because your time is short.
By the way, to SB and DanZee….where did you get that information about our deficit levels? From the controlled mainstream puppet media? Get real. I’m sure it is over 100 trillion, and am waiting for the day it is announced that our country is bankrupt, because it is. The story about troops coming home is also true. Everything in his story is right on line with everything going on. You better take heed and start preparing.
People like you make me shed tears of hope! I may not be there with you but my spirit is with you all the way. They will rot in the deepest recesses of hell for what they have done and what they will do. And there will be untold billions of murdered souls throughout this last century, ready and waiting to accuse them and secure their condemnation! Be strong and know that there are many people around the world who will pray for all of you in a spirit of love, truth and freedom.
Haven’t you noticed the media blackout. The Bush administration censored our MSM for years.
Well said!
You are correct. The debt is well over a $100 Trillion. It is over $600 Trillion.
Also, we have been in bankruptcy since 1933. That is why they created the federal reserve, stole all the gold from the people, and issue federal reserve notes as our money. That is not real money. It is a note…an IOU, a DEBT! So how does a country declare BK when they are already in BK and have been since 1933?
I wonder why these crooks won’t allow us to tap our own natural resources here? They blame it on saving polar bears and tiny fish, but what is the real reason? Did these criminals pledge our natural resources for security to China for all the trillions they loan to us?
Yes, SecState Hillary Clinton pledged US Public Assets to China on her 1st visit there to cover our debts.
OK everyone…IF we get through this ‘era’ of Obama and his insane spending, I propose we elect a Congress-this next Nov ’10 would be the time to start-that will absolutely pass a Budget that is Balanced. No deficit spending ever again. It really can be done.
Remember, this will be far,far,far better that another ‘civil’ war which would eliminate the US permanently this time. Dept can then begin to be reduced each year. We actually would start to show a surplus in revenue over spending and all surplus would go to pay down debt.
Only a Congress-at first-that we elect with this in mind can do this. Not an exciting solution but effective.
This will never come down to south vs. north, black against white, etc…It will come down to We The People Of The USA to fight our stupid arse government that we have now…Geeesss, go get a life…We are uniting in the USA that we have never before…
Claude J. Cox says:
30/11/2009 at 5:51 pm
I propose we elect a Congress-this next Nov ‘10 would be the time to start-that will absolutely pass a Budget that is Balanced
… and I say Elect them if you got them. WHO has been that decent of a person to run in the last 50 years? Every idealistic greenie gets taken in and made part of the corruption. Clean the slate. Great idea, but no thought as to HOW.
um, the U.S debt is not $106 Trillion. Putting unpaid liabilies of Social Security and Medicare and calling it national debt shows the author’s lunacy.
What else would you call it in your universe?
I believe that is “Liabilities” meaning we are liable for that money. Also the 106 Trillion in liabilities includes the National debt, medicare, social security, etc…. It is the totality of what we have committed to pay and are in the hole for, on the books for or whatever you wanna call it, WE ARE ON THE HOOK!!!.
It is therefore “Debt”!!!!!
go check out usdebtclock.org! Our unfunded liablities is $106,000,000,000,000.00. What do you want to call it…Unicorns and rainbows? I happen to call it GENERATIONAL THEFT!
Yo, DKennedy, I’VE got an “idea” for you, and I’m not even from “the South.” You think you can open your ignorant mouth and piss on my countrymen; F!@# you, a$$hole! Come on over to THIS side of the Atlantic and try that; I guaran-damn-tee you’ll come to a powerful, and very personal, understanding of the phrase “quivering mass of protoplasm.”
This is not the time for a battle of wills. This is the time when we should all bond together. You are just going to further divide our population. That accomplishes nothing. United we stand divided we fall. Don’t you think that makes sense?
The info is a little off. The US tripled its debt in the 1980s from $1 trillion to $3 trillion. But now it’s at $12 trillion!
You’re forgetting the unfunded social security and medicare (54 Trillion) and the interest compounding on it and other “off-book” expenses that total several more Trillion. We have at least 66 Trillion and interest >6% on it.
I’ll be glad when somebody takes thaat black boy OUT!
SRUSS:
First of all that kind of thinking is terrible and racist. It might also get you a nice visit from some not so happy to see you people.
I agree Obama needs to be impeached, but the reality is…our country is falling apart. What you wish for will just throw our country into MASS chaos…..massive civil unrest.
Obama is not the cause of the problems…though he is certainly not handling them as a proud American President, which is certainly alarming.
The best thing we can hope for is good results from the 2010 elections.
People like you, really hurt the cause. As it stands now Conservatives are already considered right wing extremeists, low level terrorists, racists…etc. Your comment only proves them right.
This is not about race. It is about our country and what used to be right is now wrong and what used to be wrong is now right. It is about losing freedom….which happened under Bush as well…ie: The Patriot Act.
When you are willing to give your freedom to protect yourself….you have already lost.
Impeachment means nothing and has to be done by Congress..this isn’t about to happen with our current Congress..What we should look at is an election recall.
screw you!! this is NOT about race, this is about freedom….
We don’t need racism. This is exactly what your opponents want to hear. They love people like you.
No one will “take that black boy out” Things are going just the way he wants them to go. Americans are so dumbed-down they cannot see what he is doing. Obama has 1,000,000 troops on standby. He is going to declare a civil war in 2010. The troops will be used to quell the civil unrest that is expected. Civil unrest is just a polite phrase for rioting.
Dkennedy:
Those who don’t know history are bound to repeat it.
Too bad you think history started on January 20, 2009.
It didn’t start on January 20, 2009, it was rewritten!
how’d that ‘south is gonna rise again’ thing work out the first time freaks?
oh right… it didn’t go so well. Best not get any ideas.
220 million armed to the teeth, there is no country in the world that can take on the American Militia Men! I say Bring the F*ck on!!!!!!
Obama has access to troops from other nations. Don’t think he hasn’t got all of his bases covered. While our troops are willing to promote democracy in other lands, we shall see what they will do to defend out Constitution.
Obama does not have the confidence or respect of the military. “Should” this arise, their will be few to defend him, Pelosi or Reed from the “angry mob.” For now, they respect the office, NOT the man.
they arent talking about the south this will be the whole nation.show your IQ some more by calling people names.
How’s that “South Will Rise Again” thing working out, you ask? Pretty much as we expected it would.
Stay tuned.