Comments on: Putin Responds In Force After Obama Orders Atomic Bombs To Europe https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/ We deliver exclusive hidden news that you won't just find anywhere, information that nobody wants you to know about. Updated 1 minute ago. Sun, 29 Jun 2014 18:14:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5 By: W. Hall https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85471 Sun, 29 Jun 2014 18:14:23 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85471 In reply to Johua.

Putin and the Russians are not trying to keep Ukraine out of the EU. They are concerned about protecting the rights of the Russian-speaking minority there. But the rules as dictated by “the US corporate government” and its EU slaves are not allowing them to do that, while at the same time the Ukrainian government and the EU do not accept (or are not able to enforce) their own responsibilities to do what they are not allowing the Russians to do. I want to see Putin win the chess game, but without the EU disintegrating. It’s OK thinking that Putin is a better chess player, but remember that the other side doesn’t want to play chess. It wants to overturn the table and and the chessboard on it.

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By: Johua https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85450 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:00:01 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85450 In reply to W. Hall.

W. Hall Greece says:
20/06/2014 at 4:21 pm
I want to live in Europe. Like the Ukrainians (or at least the Ukrainians who do).

I live in the Netherlands and I want out of the EU . People in the Netherlands , France and GB are waking up. United States is bankrupt and is being kept on life support by fraud , and also the EU . End of petrodollar is near .
Declaration of bankruptcy of the US corporate government is coming soon . The only option for Obama and his gang are Proxy wars . In the mean time : Putin’s aide proposes anti-dollar alliance to force US to end Ukraine’s civil war
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_06_18/Putins-aide-proposes-anti-dollar-alliance-to-force-US-to-end-Ukraines-civil-war-8030/
and “Bolivian leader urges dissolution of UN Security Council – media”
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_15/Bolivian-leader-Evo-Morales-urges-to-dissolve-UN-Security-Council-media-5441/
America will be isolated . Putin / the Russians are the best Chess players . Better than Barry Soetoro’s master Zbigniew Brzezinski . As Nuland said :, F@ck the EU !!!

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By: jesslane c. https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85427 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 20:03:06 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85427 Wow, we’re all in big trouble. If theres a ww3 incvolving nukes, no country is “safe”. Nuclear fallout will effectively stamp out life as we know it. Corruption is GLOBAL, its not an american thing, its a gobalthin. Until the ones of us who truely bellieve in live and let live rise up and take power from the corrupt and possibly mental war and power mongers in ALL of our countries, we are screwed. Im tired of arguing over imaginary lines. I feel no indiference towards any human, and plenty more feel like i do worldwide. Lets erase the borders and the corrupt leaders. I wat my children to experience a real free world before theres no world left.

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By: W. Hall https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85426 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 17:04:13 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85426 OK. I gues that’s something.

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By: Defiant https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85425 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 17:03:05 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85425 In reply to W. Hall.

Exchanging ideas is never a wasted time, Im thankfull for our conversation even if I disagree with you.

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By: W. Hall https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85424 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:55:41 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85424 My logic doesn’t come from him. I only discovered him recently and didn’t get my ideas from him. He is a speaker for American mainstream audiences. In any case it seems that you and I aren’t on the same side. All we have in common is being against what is happening in Ukraine. And what are we going to do about it? All this discussion has done is wasted both our time.

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By: Defiant https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85422 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:25:04 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85422 In reply to W. Hall.

I watched it didnt convince me sorry, academics arent living in the reail world neither do most of politicians, most of the facts were wrong or twisted I can now see where you logic comes from.
The guy was in one point right japan wanted to capitulate even before the nuke attacks their only condition was to grant immuntiy to their emperor wich was granted anyways after the war, but the US. wanted to show off its power so they dropped them, on civilians wich violated multiple points on the Geneva convention and basic Human rights.
But you are still wrong, nukes wont go away anytime soon so dont hold your breath.
Tricking the US. and Russia into a nuclear war would be the end and it almost happened multiple times but on the other hand nukes are the sole reason why there was no WWIII yet, the globalists arent sure if they would survive it, probably thats the reason they want to erode it to the point where they can launch their planetry genocide without the fear of being nuked.

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By: W. Hall https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85421 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 15:37:41 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85421 You should read Ward Wilson’s “Five Myths about Nuclear Weapons”. It is close enough to conventional mainstream viewpoints for you to be able to understand it. Here is a relevant video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBX5vo1KBiw

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By: Defiant https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85420 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 15:29:12 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85420 In reply to W. Hall.

Carefull you are losing it.

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By: Defiant https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85419 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 15:28:05 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85419 In reply to W. Hall.

Oh I almost forgot the INF Agreement that you were mentioning worked on both sides so not only did Russia ditch some of its short and middle range missiles but also the US. because there were too many nukes and fingers were itching on both sides, still cruise missiles and ICBM’s remained in service in fact Russia developed on them while the US. only maintained the older ones.
It was also more economical less weapons less maintenance and lets face it there is not much of a difference if you can destroy Earth 20 times in a row or only 3 times.
Its also worth mentioning that the US. is now in worse shape then the Soviet-Union was in the end of the 80’s, Russias economy is doing well while the US. falls apart, interesting in light of your theory, so the US. owns Russias nuke arsenal but Russia is doing much better and isnt overrun by the US. even though they should be defensless against a nuke power? sounds legit, Oh wait…

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By: W. Hall https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85418 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 15:21:42 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85418 I want to live in Europe. Like the Ukrainians (or at least the Ukrainians who do).

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By: Defiant https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85417 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 15:07:24 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85417 In reply to W. Hall.

The Soviet-Union was never attacked it fell apart due to economical reasons and not military and political they couldnt compete with the banksters on wall street and the FED printing out federal reserve notes aka petro dollars out of thin air, combine that with a socialistic economy producing too many weapons and you got the results, Russians were not the second biggest nuclear power by the way they were numero uno with more than 30.000 nukes.
Basic facts are going against your statements the US. wants to encircle Russia, China and Iran they do everything to achieve that economic warefare,global wiretapping,paid PR campaigns 24\7, proxy wars arming massmurdering terrorists who kill rape and torture man woman and children, but if thats the case why wouldnt they simply nuke them? or threat the Russians with nukes to capitulate to them, why would the Russians upgrade their military if it was useless?why wouldnt the US. take Russias oil and gas like they use to do with other countries? conventional warefare against nukes is usless no matter what you think, so you see the problem with your logic its simply false.
I give up on you, you twist reality and facts and keep repeating it, its no use to argue with you, have a nice day bye, If you wanna live in lala land then be my guest.

corrected the typos,it happens when I type fast I like being a grammaz nazi on myself yeahhhh:)

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By: Defiant https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85416 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 15:00:33 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85416 In reply to W. Hall.

The Soviet-Union was never attacked it fell apart due to economical reasons and not political they couldnt compete with the banster on wall street and the FED printin out federal reserve notes aka petro dollars, combine that with a socialistic economy producing too much weapons and you got the results, Russians were not the second biggest nuclear power by the way they were numero uno with more than 30.000 nukes.
Basic facts are going against your statements the US. wants to encircle Russia, China and Iran they do everything to achieve that economic warefare,global wiretapping,paid PR campaigns 24\7, proxy wars arming massmurdering terrorists who kill rape and torture man woman and children, but if thats the case why wouldnt they simply nuke them? or threat the Russians with nukes to capitulate to them, why would the Russians upgrade their military if it was useless?why wouldnt the US. take Russias oil and gas like they use to with other countries? conventional warefare against nukes is usless no matter what you think, so you see the problem with your logic its simply false.
I give up on you, you twist reality and facts and keep repeating it, its no use to argue with you, have a nice day bye, If you wanna live in lala land then be my guest.

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By: W. Hall https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85415 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:47:14 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85415 The US attacked the Soviet Union in the 80s with the threat of “limited nuclear war” and it was successful. The threat produced the INF Agreement, which was a turning point in Soviet nuclear doctrine. (A capitulation, if you think Soviet possession of nuclear weapons served some purpose.) After that the disintegration process proceeded. The Soviet Union had nukes and it was attacked and destroyed. After the August 1991 coup Yeltsin wanted to get rid of the Soviet nuclear arsenal. All of it, not just the nuclear weapons in Ukraine, Kazaksthan and Belarus. That was quite logical if he had handed over the codes to the US (and I was informed by a person who has access to relevant information that he did). Why should the US control two nuclear arsenals, its own and the Russian one? In order to be able to stage false flag nuclear attacks and attribute them to Russia? Yeltsin’s call for Soviet nuclear disarmament (on 3rd September 1991 in the Duma he proposed 95% unilateral Russian nuclear disarmament) was quite logical and should have been supported. Of course it was not supported by the power elite, but why was it not supported by the anti-nuclear movements. Were they confused by doctrines of nuclear deterrence? Even though they had spent a great deal of energy and ink debunking such ideas. When a country loses a war it is the custom for it to destroy its weaponry rather than have it fall into the hands of the enemy. The fact that Yeltsin was not allowed to achieve nuclear disarmament of Russia indicates that it was the international power elite that didn’t want nuclear disarmament of Russia. Further evidence that nuclear deterrence and all doctrines concerning nuclear weapons are fraudulent. Because they are fraudulent the most theoretically advanced sections of the European anti-nuclear movement support unilateral European nuclear disarmament. Of course Russia could be invited to support it by carrying out nuclear disarmament also, but that is not so easy to achieve now as it would have been in 1991, if the political clear-sightedness had been there.

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By: Defiant https://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/putin-responds-in-force-after-obama-orders-atomic-bombs-to-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-85411 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:08:01 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=32800#comment-85411 In reply to W. Hall.

The US. never atteacked another country whom also had nukes, coincidence?, sorry to break your delusions but deterrence works, just because you want to live in a nuke free world and to think that everybody will respect wont became reality, the moment you disarm yourself you are done.
Gorbachev was an idiot by the way probably a british double agent, but on the other hand all US. presidents were hand picked by the elite since Kennedy, so its a twisted game, the right hand often doesnt know what the left is doing.

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