Here we can find some intersting infos about freedom and democracy
http://www.scribd.com/doc/113684529/Alt-Capitalism

Interesting video: The United States Is The East India Company’s Endeavor
http://youtu.be/63LKVYzJKds

I personaly believe that roots of English common law are in Jus Gentium, so what we all think about is probably wrong, since we do not know full story and who is who in the game

Citizens from 34 States Petition the White House to Secede from the U.S.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/citzens-from-34-states-petition-the-white-house-to-secede-from-the-u-s.html

I think there are at least three factors relevant to the concept of rights, a legal one based on prior law and precedent, a practical one which is the outcome of military force, and a theoretical one in which rights are postulated to exist and if generally accepted, are then agreed to exist and eventually legislated to become universal.

Some constitutional rights were derived from the Magna Carta, some from other documents, but all are based in the inherent right of human beings to be free, and that right was presumed by the Constitutional Convention to come from God in the same way that monarchs derived their sovereign status.

States’ rights are based on their small share of sovereignty granted by their citizens, at least in theory if not practice, and popular sovereignty was believed to be granted to the people by God.

President Lincoln probably knew the confederacy had a God-given right to leave the Union but perhaps the concept of “Manifest Destiny” persuaded him to try to keep the Union together against the will of Southern states and in violation of their natural rights to withdraw. Our Declaration of Independence was a statement of that right to withdraw from British sovereignty and it is equally applicable to any sovereign including a federal government.

It’s the practical aspect of federal military power that prevents secession rights from being exercised; they still exist but because of the Civil War, they require consent of the federal government to exercise them.

No doubt the British Crown refused to consent to independence without a fight, the federal government will likewise not consent without a fight. States still have the right, but they will have to fight in Congress or on the battleground to exercise those rights. Freedom has rarely been granted without a fight. In that respect evolution has been a failure.

Mr. Zharkov — This, of course, is exactly the question. If the government is physically strong enough to deprive me of a right, does that mean I don’t have that right? Do rights come from Government, or from God? This is the point at issue in the current debate.

I am afraid, you are right. I believe the seperated states would not want to pay federal tax, only the state one and government would lose a lot of money, not to be able continue the worl war. Since it is zionist lobby who has the real power in the USA ( Congresmen have been bribed by AIPAC as well) it has almost zero chance to go through. Another proof the USA do not have freedom and democracy, but slavery. Government job is to follow people will, not on the contrary which we have seen all the time.

This has some of my sympathies UNLIKE: Québec! bloody french separatists, who are already given more voting power, and economic power.

P.S. I am part french so I know – Oh I know…

Congress has the power to admit a state into the Union under Article IV, Section 3 of the US Constitution, but they will never expel a state because that power was never mentioned in the document and they want the tax revenue. One might assume a state could voluntarily withdraw from the U.S. under the 10th Amendment because the power to remove a state was never given to Congress.

The question of whether a state could unilaterally withdraw from the Union was practically settled in the American Civil War and that answer is obviously no, they can’t, regardless what power Congress did not have.

The power of individual states to withdraw unilaterally seems obvious but the federal government has the larger military force and is willing to stop secession by violence.