Comments on: Europe Becomes Less European With Each New Wave of Mass Immigration https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/ We deliver exclusive hidden news that you won't just find anywhere, information that nobody wants you to know about. Updated 1 minute ago. Mon, 08 Nov 2010 16:59:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5 By: Sean https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-16661 Mon, 08 Nov 2010 16:59:22 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-16661 In reply to skylab.

To ‘skylab’,

The following is available at the website of philosopher Mr. Philip Atkinson, and is reproduced in its entirety:

“The Collapse of Nationality: The Universal State”

The replacement of the separate countries of Europe with a single state — The European Union — was predicted by Professor Arnold Toynbee in “A Study Of History” as part of the decline of a civilization.

Toynbee observed that as a civilization collapsed, the separate countries making up the civilization merged into one unit—a universal state:

“..these societies starting as unities on the cultural plane, without being united on the political plane. This régime is favourable to social and cultural progress; but its price is chronic warfare between the local states;..,after a long drawn out ‘time of troubles’, is belatedly retrieved by the establishment of a universal state.”—Part I ‘The Shape Of History’: Chapter 7 Hellenic and Chinese models

Toynbee thereby predicted the transition of Europe from a number of quarrelling nations, into a single community known as ‘The European Union’, but Toynbee also made it clear that such unity was a symptom of disintegration, not growth:

“Universal states are, let us remind ourselves, essentially negative institutions. In the first place, they arise after, and not before, the breakdowns of the civilizations to which they bring political unity.” — Part V ‘The Disintegrations Of Civilizations’: Chapter 32 Universal States: Ends Or Means

Why Universal States Appear

While Toynbee was accurate in his observations he had no clear idea of the mechanism involved. He did not realize that a nation was a shared understanding, expressed in the traditions of the community, which conferred a unique communal personality (a culture). So as these traditions are discarded under the impact of selfishness, this unique communal understanding disappears along with its particular personality; so losing its communal identity. In this way the separate nations become merely mass of nondescript humanity: a universal state.

The Nature Of The Citizens Of A Universal State
The Englishman with the stiff-upper lip who eats stodgy food and plays cricket; the humourless German who eats cabbage and sausages; the excitable, verbose, Frenchman who drinks wine; they have all been replaced by citizens with no sensible tradition. The political borders which previously separated peoples with separate, distinct notions of duty and justice—a nationality — have become meaningless lines on a map indicating where these nations once were; for now all these once different peoples have become united by selfishness, which is a lack of notions about duty or justice other than self-interest—a rabble; whose only borders are those set by geography.

The citizens of a universal state are merely a mass of selfish individuals, bound together by a corrupt, inept bureaucracy, intent only upon exploiting each other, while avoiding all demands of self-sacrifice; ruled by the superstition that their unfettered fears and fancies spawn, such as ‘Global Warming’ or ‘Multiculturalism’.

Yes ‘skylab’, more “end of times” chants are in order, for the state of affairs in the Western world today is exactly that prophesied by Christianity. Most citizens are odious creatures blind to the folly of their own actions – inane parasites drifting through life just searching for an opportunity to satisfy their lusts, constantly searching for distractions, novelty and selfish aggrandizement, with no regard for Natural Moral Order, including fidelity to race, which is, after all, merely an extension of the family. This deplorable state of affairs can only result in eventual civilizational collapse as individual existence becomes more superficial, even meaningless, and society inexorably falters.

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By: mr white https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-16642 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 22:16:04 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-16642 In reply to Cosmonaut Seven.

hey scum

you love niggers so much are you willing to let your mother, sisters, daughters get gang raped by those niggers and muslims?

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By: mrwhite https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-16641 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 22:14:41 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-16641 In reply to raaq.

go die of aids you piece of shit

non-whites don’t belong in Europe!

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By: skylab https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-16635 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 20:01:57 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-16635 In reply to Antonio Ebraheem.

Yep, you’re crazy. Got anymore of “end of times” chants for us? LOL

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By: skylab https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-16634 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:57:43 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-16634 In reply to Father Antonio Ebraheem.

are you crazy? Everything you just said is in “theory” not fact….

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By: NELLY https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-16552 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 12:43:48 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-16552 In reply to Father Antonio Ebraheem.

not in the colour is the meaning. THE RELIGION AND relevant culture bring the troubles….so, lets europeans live in Eu, muslims in their country, or at least do not wave their ‘burkas” in front of our face…

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By: Cos Seven https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-16383 Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:41:57 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-16383 But who knows what an infidel actually is according to the Quran? In my understanding an infidel is one who doesnt believe in God. Not just professed belief but in ones actions. Does a person respect life etc? I know people who say they dont believe in God but they reflect a reverence for Allahs laws or retribution for example in how they conduct themselves, whereas some say they DO believe in God yet walk all over people and the Earth as though there is no punishment or judgement day.

Personally whether there is a judgement day or not, who can REALLY say with authority?, I think such a philosophy is good for society because it helps people act with a certain level of regard, whereas people who think that this life is it and theres no judgement tend to abuse people and things in the pursuit of every last delight, as if a comet were coming to earth. They want to have sex in the streets and kill anyone who slighted them and so on

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By: Canada Awakens https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-16336 Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:00:09 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-16336 Allah says if the true believer finds the infidel he is to be vanquished ,ambushed etc
Allah says all other religeons are to be conquered
If a man is found to be a man who like s othermen he is to be thrown from the highest hill
Women cannot show nothing more then hijab allows

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By: Mr. Archlight450 https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-16327 Tue, 26 Oct 2010 03:39:15 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-16327 In reply to clairvoyant infidel.

You say that Muslims are violent, yet fail to mention that in every religion there is an extremist. Need me to mention the KKK, sure they don’t blow up people but what they do is torture them to death. All Muslim haters talk about is the world trade center and how bad it was, I absolutely agree; but come on, those who committed that violent attack do not present all of Islam. The Quran does not teach violence nor does it encourage it. The texts like any other scripture can be taken out of context. It is also a fact that Christianity since biblical time is responsible for the majority of killings especially the crusades; thousands of innocent people died their only wrong doing was that they did not believe in Christianity; heck! Even christens where killed, but it was because their where not Latin they where Greeks, which meant that they weren’t as christen because they had a darker skin. Now don’t take me wrong I don’t hate Christianity or Christens. I respect them as I respect any other religion as fellow believers in the all mighty god. The fact is that every religion has some sort of blood in its hands. I am Muslim and there’s no way that I will want the death of someone because they believe in something else. As for those who say that whites are superior to black in terms of IQ’s don’t make me laugh. From a young age children whether black or white there is no difference in their intellect and one factor for whites having high IQ’s is because IQ tests are standardized for white people. This gives a distinct advantage to people who can dismiss as unimportant anything that doesn’t directly pertain to their culture. There are plenty of black inventor‘s here is a link (http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmscientists1.html ). The other think which makes me wonder is how idiotic some of you are, saying that middle easterners didn’t contribute anything. Muslim doctors were surgically removing cataracts and treating kidney and gallstones while Europeans were still using leeches on their patients. Ibn Sina (known in the West as Avicenna, 980-1037) wrote al-Qanun fi al-Tibb, or the Canons of Medicine, a seminal volume that was the first to recognize the contagious nature of tuberculosis, identify meningitis, and describe all the minute parts of the eye. By the 12th century, the Canons had been translated into Latin, and European medicine relied on this text until well into the 1700s.

Much of the knowledge developed by the Muslims and transmitted to the Europeans enabled Europe to emerge from the Dark Ages into the Renaissance.
During the 16th century, the Ottoman astronomer Taqi al-Din made astronomical tables that were considered at least as accurate as those of fellow 16th-century astronomer Tycho Brahe of Denmark, whose observations of the planets served as the basis for Kepler’s Laws of planetary motion. Only a century later, though, the Ottomans and their Muslim contemporaries in Mughal India and the Persian Safavid Empire ceased to support scientific research and innovations.
This change was due in part to the shifting priorities and educational systems of these empires. Not unlike Europe in previous centuries, groups wanting to protect the status quo became more powerful than those advocating growth and experimentation. Meanwhile, building on the earlier accomplishments of Muslim scientists, Europe’s scientific and industrial revolutions began to give the West a military and economic advantage over the Islamic world. So all of should think and know your facts properly before you speak, I’m just saying it would make you less of an idiot.
God Bless,

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By: Ivantheterrible https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-16288 Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:38:13 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-16288 Culture is social construct,it goes up with people who create it and it also goes down with them.If you replace them,their culture goes into oblivion.What are all these people bringing with them: empty pockets,low I.Q.,high testosteron,hostile religion,kinky habits,…And how will they enrich us: higher taxes,more social benefit,more criminality,more affirmative action for people who are dumb,restless or just lazy and hostile to our people and to our culture.And the cherry on top of this cake are people of subsaharian Kafrika.Their average I.Q. is 70 or even less( Ghana 60,bushmen and pigmies 55 ).They are grown up children with itelligence of our 11 or 12 olds.
And if someone doesn’t believe,who these people are,he can read book called Negroes in negroland,which was written in the middle of the 19 century,when first europeans began to explore black continent and what were their impressions.Warning,it isn’t suitable reading for people with bad stomachs,because it is very frank and illustrious. And from then on,nothing really changed.

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By: Free britian https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-15797 Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:57:43 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-15797 Ohh yes we are racist and proud. The fact we have waken up to a world being turned upside down .
You will obey our laws or leave

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By: Human https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-15794 Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:28:10 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-15794 I’ve never read such racist fuckery in all my life! It’s ridiculous! I hope many of you dumbass commentators are apart of the minority.

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By: free britain https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-15780 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:57:04 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-15780 The muslim hordes have arrived to badmouth the jewish mthe gypsies ,intolerant bunch as usual

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By: Britan mobilized https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-15779 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:36:39 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-15779 Older men banging a 14 yr old ,shame ,shame ,shame on you all

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By: Rebecca J. https://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/europe-becomes-less-european-with-each-new-wave-of-mass-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-15768 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 05:39:58 +0000 http://www.eutimes.net/?p=6406#comment-15768 In reply to Father Antonio Ebraheem.

No guilt for being descended from Gaul-Goths. Not everyone can be a leader . . . No guilt anymore. Look at their countries and then look back and see where they would rather be.

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